Ante Čaćić’s duties start immediately at his new job. The new boss of the Repka has just released the line up that is scheduled to face Bulgaria and Malta on Oct. 10 and 13 respectively.
Čačić called up a combination of seasoned vets such as Dario Srna and Danijel Pranić, but has also added the the next generation of players to the roster with the likes of Mateo Kovačić, Duje Čop, and Andrej Kramarić.
Alen Halilović was notably left off the roster.
Will Čačić have what Kovač didn’t? Will The new coach be able to bring the obvious talent we have together and get the three points we know this team is capable of? We will find out soon enough.
Goalkeepers: Kalinić, Subašić, Vragić
Defenders: Srna, Ćorluka, Vida, Pranjić, Lovren, Vrsaljko, Lešković, Pivarić
Midfielders: Modrić, Rakitić, Badelj, Brozović, Kovačić, Perišić
Strikers: Olić, Kalinić, Čop, Pjaca, Mandžukić, Kramarić
5 Aquarians made the squad.
Are we talking about dinamo or the repka or both ?
Cos i think it makes a lot more sense – boycotting, wishing the worst for, etc – in the case of dinamo than it does the repka, considering how entrenched and central mamic is there and the fact that it is actually just a club and not a national ambassador the way the repka is.
Also, “cunts” is actually an affectionate term of endearment, just ask any aussie
😉
The main point is that the ones who are boycotting are those who have personal experience dealing with their perceived oppression…meanwhile you haven’t put yourself in their shoes for a day. I don’t think you’re necessarily entirely wrong in your first part and are entitled to your opinion. But at the same time I think you’d understand more if you went to a game and witnessed a smidgen of it. That’s not a veliki Hrvat thing either which is the first thing always thrown out there.
You’re the one calling everyone cunts, criticizing, bullshitting about those who don’t want to accept the status quo nd I’m the “veliki Hrvat” because I asked what was the last fucking game you went to? Riiiiight, good one.
@Ante B: What an idiotic Q. I haven’t been to any, despite, you know, the weekly ritual they are here in Brisbane 😉
Must everything turn into a pissing contest with you? Don’t be so egotistical. Every argument with you involves you puffing your chest out and claiming the veliki hrvat badge. Get back to the issues.
Now as for the video games, good and bad news. Croatia is in Pro Evo 16 but unlicensed. You can however download the correct kit and team if you play on PC or PS4. Sadly, i play on XBONE so i don’t have that option. Sadface.
Iggy……don’t tell me you play video games?
Iggy,
What was the last Croatia game you attended?
So what you’re saying, Ziva, importantly, is that Suker is 100 % likely to blame for the HRV exodus from video game licences because he is a stingy jewburger?
@Stipe………..by cancer in the locker room I meant the off the field issues. He was hated by most of his teammates. He was considered a dick, but back then the team had leaders who were able to seperate any issues away from the pitch. In a sense they all got along on the field because there really was this belief of playing for country/fans with the war being so fresh throught the professionalism of Boban. If any of you ever run into former players from the 98 World Cup squad, ask them about what Suker’s biggest issue was in the locker room during games. I’m willing to bet they will say it was making sure the extra tickets he had for each game were sold at the highest maximum price to scalpers. There is a good story of him trying to get as many extra tickets as he could with less than an hour before our World Cup matches. He would bitch at someone either in the locker room or right outside the locker about not being able to mamimize the full value of the World Cup tickets he had. These were not tickets for his friends and family, this was to sell to scalpers. That is just one story. In the locker room, the biggest mouths were Suker and Stimac. To his credit, the fucker produced so a lot of that gets looked over now. But the guy was a dick. Just look at it today, how many of the players from the 98 team ever have anything positive to say or defend Suker. He still goes around calling himself a “brand”, even though his brand has failed on the business side and is worth shit now.
Tudor was a kid on that team and he didn’t do or say anything at the 98 WC. It was after, once he got his starting role with Juve when Tudor “asshole-ness” came out.
Tudor was an asshole…Suker was arrogant.
@ZIVA
You said a couple of weeks ago that Suker was a cancer I’m the locker roo, back I’m the “golden generation ” how was he a cancer if practically scored a goal every other game. I’m not trying to argue, I’m just curious . If he was a cancer, who didn’t he not get along with ? And who else were assholes I’m locker room,?
Whatever is wrong with most of the people on this site is no little thing.
Elvis, keep up the good fight, bro. When the time comes, we will battle with weapons. For now, we destroy them with our intellect.
Re: The millennials. They are a lost generation beyond redemption. A truly sorry lot.
@Doktor Prle
Depressing how so many have no motivation to protect and secure our nation. To many hipster millenials who care more about being gay.
@Mustafa
go to slovenija
Hello I am Syria man stuck in Croatia. Maybe I stay nice country with beaches. Please tell me how many women can man marry here. In Syria I had six wives and 20 children. However, I am here to build a new life for my self. I don’t think custody should be forced on a man. It is againist the will of Allah. So I will need new wives and a nice house to keep them in. Please help I came for a better life.
Rodjo, tebi je Prle tako junacki izjebo majku, bojim se da ce tvoje praunuke to osjetiti. 🙁
prle ti si jedno neodgojeno smece smrdljivo, tebi je samo jebem ti mater jugoslavenko na pameti, jedino sto znas, nekulturan si neodgojen, pokvaren, stoka, ciganska i sve ono najgore na svitu. Seriously find a power outlet and go to town on it u dirty fucking kreten
http://www.hercegbosna.org
EOD. Dalmatineru, provokatorski.
DOKAZ da nisi bio Hrvatom prije ’91-e godine je to sto PLJUJES Hrvate iz Bosne i Hercegovine i sto im negiras hrvatski identitet.
Je li kuzis, DALMATINERU (ovo je uvreda mome psu, jer je, ko sto rekoh, on pametniji od tebe… Najistaknutiji Hrvati prije -91-e su upravo bili HRVATI IZ BIH.
MRS, smece jedno sugavo.
Maminjo,
The Croats from Bosna that live in Istra KEEP Istra Croatian, along with the small number of Croatian Istrani from the Istrian hinterland.
The coastal portions of Istra are LARGELY inhabited by Servians and Bosnian Muslims, as is Rijeka. Which is why RIJEKA, today, is the hub of Greater-Serbianism in all of Croatia.
tko ce s tobom prle kad si ti pokupija svu pamet svita? ja i moji smo ponosno Hrvati bili prije 91 i posli, isto se nebi moglo reci za te, takav kao sto si ti su bili najveci jugoslaveni, ali nema to veze samo prodavaj ti pamet svima. What a life u must lead, everyone but u is a jugo, clearly u are the last remaining hrvat, remember the power outlet is ur friend.
Good morning, Maminjo…
Just throwing some pearls before swine this fine AM.
😉
Pravi si Patriot. JUGOSLOVENSKI. Mater ti jebem usranu, jugoslavensku.
Vi bi bili bracom sa Srbima, sa Slovencima, s bosanskim muslimanima, s Makedoncima, s Crnogorcima, sa SVIMA… vi bi bili JUGOSLOVENI….
ALI zato ne date HRVATIMA da budu slozni i da budu ono sto jesu, istoga imena, roda i plemena.
Servi i Jugosloveni za najvecega neprijatelja imaju LOGIKU. S njome ste u vjecnom ratu.
MRS, smece jedno neobrazovano!
Istra, as independent and liberal as they can be, are also largely Bosanci as well. They call themselves Istriots now, but you can’t wash away last names like Miletić and Radoš.
^^^^ bravo!! And cheer on the Turks like it’s the second coming. Doctor Prdac you carnival barker go suck a kurac dude.
Smece jedno, usrano….
NIJEDAN Hrvat ne govori protiv Hrvata bez obzira iz kojih zemalja/podrucja dolaze.
LAKMUS je, ako uopce znas sto je to, smece jedno neobrazovano, jugoslovensko…. da ako progovoris samo JEDNU jedinu rijec protiv bilo kojeg Hrvata, bilo otkud dolazio, NISI Hrvat.
Pa kako ces ti biti Hrvatom, smece jedno neobrazovano, kad govoris protiv Hrvata iz Bosne i Hercegovine!?!
MRS, smece jedno jugoslovensko, neobrazovano,
Ti si Hrvat ko sto sam ja Servin.
Dalmacija nije srce Hrvatske. Dalmacija je koljevka hrvatstva. Ali cisto sumnjam da ti znas sto je koljevka.
Bosna je trbuh Hrvatske. I trbuh, i srce, i ponos. Ali sto bi ti znao o tim stvarima, smece jedno jugoslovensko koje je postalo “Hrvatom” tamo negdje ’91-e godine.
I da znas, smece jedno jugoslovensko, 90% Hrvata iz Dalmacije vuce korijene upravo iz Bosne i Hercegovine. Ali sto bi ti znao o tome.
Pametniji i obrazovaniji je moj pas od tebe.
DALMACIJA = SRCE HRVATSKE, thanks for proving my point anyone who doesnt see the world through prljave oci is a jugoslaven, a ti si jugoslaven i otac tvoj i njegov otac, originalni bolji hrvati koji su minjali viru jer nisu imali loptice. Forget the tin foil hat stick a fucking fork into a power outlet u jugo scum, do the world a favor
No Vrsaljko.
Ouch.
Kovacic in for Brozovic
Kalinic in for injured Mandzukic
lol Pivaric in for Pranjic/Vrsaljko/Leovac
Pjaca still in the lineup
http://www.goal.com/hr/news/7081/hrvatska-reprezentacija/2015/09/25/15703642/ovako-%C4%87e-izgledati-%C4%8Da%C4%8Di%C4%87eva-hrvatska-modri%C4%87-i-kova%C4%8Di%C4%87-iza?ICID=HP_HN_1
@Doktor Prle
bravo, bravo, thank you for calling out that govno above –Bodulo
Cleary he has issues growing up. 🙂
Here’s a little something for my jugoslav friends from the “ostrve”…..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghCGqo8sUDA
Mamu vam vasu jugoslovensku. 😉
IGGY has produced a masterful post and has furnished masterful arguments.
Ziva, je li ti imalo stid? Trebalo bi ti biti. 🙂
Ah, the “bosanci parading as Hrvati” argument.
Nah, you’re not a Yugoslav. You’re an “enlightened” piece of govno jugoslavensko.
There’s no such thing as “bosanci,” as there as no such thing as “boduli.”
JEST, ako bas hoces, Hrvati iz BiH su originalni Hrvati i BOLJI Hrvati od tebe i od tvojih govana s karadjordjevicevih “ostrva.”
To ti tece Hrvat iz Dalmacije. Zapamti.
Ziggy for president! Great post brother!
Split u would have to be the biggest pizda going round
the world according to prle: bosanci parading as hrvati are the only real hrvati no matter what damage they do, any one who is against those people is a jugoslaven. Do u ever take off ur tin foil hat? Clearly overcompensating for something there
Are they offering beer or going to grade schools and giving away tickets as well like last year?
A once proud club could only manage 18,000 for the Arsenal game.
Dinamo are offering fans a bargain price to support the team in Munich.
Apparently, 400 Kuna will cover the Ticket + trip to Munich and back.
Given the ticket is mostly around 380 Kuna, it means 20 Kuna covers the cost of traveling over 500 kms
Amazing value!!!
Have some of you not been paying attention in the previous few years regarding Mamic’s actions?
That’s the whole thing. Boycott is over but the black lists remain.
My original point is that you can’t find a similar situation here in the States.
Both sides to blame in Dinamo’s case. Mamic and the fans.
Cubs and Bears couldn’t do it – against the law. Anybody on that list ever challenge Mamic in court over being denied entry?
Or are the majority BBB who decided to boycott anyway?
Even better, there is no law but Mamic has made his own “law” with the crne liste. For a large majority, their crime was that they sat in Sjever. No other reason. There’s over 2,000 banned which if extrapolated can be 10,000 including family and friends. Would the Cubs or Bears ever do that? Banning the Bleacher Bums? Ajde molim te.
His first order of business is to resign and recommend a foreign coach because the players have no respect for a Croatian coach who gets paid peanuts after all. For the national team it’s club first and national team fourth.
@tudor – That’s my point. Hajduk fans, in general, are much more like the fans here in the States.
Don’t care about the mess – as long as there is a team on the field.
who cares about the mess with dinamo zagreb
how about the mess with hajduk, deal with that
I grew up across the street from Comiskey Park in Chicago, home of the White Sox (to this day a half-Croatian, half- Italian neighborhood), and moved to the Boston area 2 months before the Bears beat the Patriots in 1986.
To your point, are there Croatian laws that allow bans on fans who merely mock the owner?
I’ll take that one chief since you’ve defiled basically two of my favorite teams. Let me use my favorite American team-the Chicago Bears-as an example
GSH never banned the Bears’ supporters even when they mocked him.
McCaskey never showed her crusty ass on TV spewing hateful things about Bears fans and never banned them to wear the C, throw them in jail, etc.
@ Armada
Sve u redu Brate. Papa je dosao u New Yorku. Isus u nutra naša Srce.
I’ll see you on new Kantrida Stadion next summer.
Halilovic can give 20 minutes of EXPLOSION right now.
Kalinic has “earned” his way into Fiorentina squad.
Perišić can EXPLODE 50 meters to goal.
Kovacic, rotation my foot, has started for Real Modric !
Modric looks sharp.
Vrsaljko is a horse.
Pjaca has a pulse.
Regarding BBB vs. Mamic and the whole mess with Dinamo Zagreb.
Is it something in our culture, because I can’t come up with anything similar with any of the four major sports clubs here in the States.
..and I’m sure there are many crooks among the owners here. It’s just that the fans don’t give a flying fuck on how much they are making or who is making it. – win or lose actually.
Look at the Chicago Cubs.
The only thing I can think of is that throughout history, people in the Balkans, including Croatians, have had short periods of time to gain wealth – before being taken over by some outside force that takes that opportunity away again for long periods of time.
So, you grabbed while you could. Tudjman and his cronies had that mentality. Mamic is doing the same.
Maybe if we start to relax and realize that Croatia is going to be a country that’s going to be around for awhile, we’ll start doing things the right way.
“Say what you want. I’d rather lose and be terrible with a good solid hns than win 5 world cups under mamic”
LOL.
Yea right. If Cro won FIVE World Cups, Vatrena Cast would joyously have both of Mamic’s balls in his mouth.
This board is all talk. If you would really boycott a World Cup win, then you would have already boycotted posting on this website about Croatian Soccer long ago.
There is NO chance anyone on here wouldn’t cheer hard for Cro if they made it to a World Cup Finals match (Mamic or no Mamic). A World Cup win tops all things soccer. Literally Everything. Mamic included.
Might have a little to do with Croatia not being in FIFA 16, but, well said Iggy.
I’m not going to let Dinamo Zagreb fans brainwash me into ignoring or boycotting the Repka to gain support for what they haven’t been able to do themselves – getting Mamic to leave their club.
Tying him to the National team has been their tactic for awhile now.
Congrats to the BBB on finally convincing some – but it’s a small minority – won’t help.
Don’t worry – the sport in Croatia is much bigger than one man. It is like a religion. People who say they are going to turn their backs are just frustrated with the last two matches.
In the end, they won’t.
very good post Iggy!
Iggy,
What was the last game you attended?
He formed a new club, transferred all the players and trophies and left all the debts with the old club, which subsequently went bust. The ‘old’ Dinamo still owed money to some ex-players, including Prosinecki, who now could not chase the ‘new’ Dinamo as they had never actually played for that club.
I love it that he shafted Prosinecki!
Bravo iggy. They blame Mamic for everything.
How many on here support Hajduk yet the board of directors are always in some monkey business. Everyone silent on that. They still support the team.
Mamic is not the problem. People want him to be.
well said Iggy but watch it, you’re gonna be a target now!
Zdravko Mamic, known for his ardent love of the Croatian nation and its independence, responded by saying that the criminal investigation represents “genocide” against him, his family, Dinamo and the Croatian state.
“…The whole world will find out about this and will see that the government which is the descendant of the Communist Party has not moved away from its methods, that is, political reckoning with those who think differently. Of course all this is an order from the very top of the government, from the Prime Minister down…It’s clear from all his public outbursts that concoctions of various affairs against people of right-wing political orientation are rife…” From an article I read.
“So we should just keep the same clowns in place.”
See this is the straw-man bullshit you always do ziva. Nobody is saying yay we are happy with how things are. The question is does the status quo warrant desertion of support ?
Now, you cunts say you are no longer supporting or “short term pain for long term gain” or that militant disruption is a good thing if it ousts mamic.
Does anyone seriously still think that there is any long term gain? All you cunts are advocating is short term pain. THERE IS NO GAIN. Mamic is not going to step aside because some people on a message board don’t like him, or fans don’t goto games, or even if Cro doesnt make Euro. He doesnt give a shit and he won’t remove himself.
Someone mentioned the definition of insanity before. To anyone who is saying well short term pain for long term gain – no. Just fucking NO. It is short term pain for more long term pain and that is it. There IS NO FUCKING light at the end of the tunnel, i can assure you.
Look at it this way: you cunts who dont support the repka due to corruption. Did you follow the 2014 FIFA WC and every other FIFA tournament, despite the fact it is well known FIFA is way more corrupt and has been since forever? Why don’t your standards extend to FIFA? You are happy to follow FIFA tournaments despite corruption, to vote republican despite corruption, but you can’t support a FUCKING SOCCER TEAM because of Mamic???
What fucking SRANJE IS THIS???
You cunts need to get a load of yourselves. I am sure SCORES of federations have their Mamics. WE ARE NOT UNIQUE. There is corruption everywhere. How does Mamic’s corruption compare to that of, say, Bush/Rumsfeld?
As i said, he’s God’s little angel compared to some of the shit we say in our own countries. Going on like cro is somehow a basketcase or unique because its politicians are gutless and corrupt really beggars fucking belief.
You shitheads have zero – FUCKING ZERO standards for the countries you live in when it comes to corruption and then expect HRV to be some sort of utopia – OR ELSE I WONT SUPPORT THE REPKA BOO FUCKING HOO.
CRY ME A FUCKING RIVER.
Nothing is going to change with Mamic due to your support or non-support. IT is a matter for law enforcement to deal with him and we all hope they do, but until that happens, not supporting the repka just because of him is weak as piss. These are still our players who are our people and represent our country.
I would GLADLY celebrate 5 world cup wins under Mamic. In fact, if we won WCs under mamic it would be MORE reason to celebrate our prowess that we won DESPITE HIM not because of him. To say you wouldnt care is just pathetic. Fuck you if you say that.
As for the militant disruption of hooligans – it is just more short-term pain for long-term pain. Nothing more.
Im not saying be indifferent or happy with the status quo, im saying it’s no reason to disown the repka themselves.
Wrapped in flag and Mamic and Suker for president and prime minister.
I’ll say this…….at least all this sranje with the repka, Puppet Suker and Mamic is entertainment. It keeps you searching for updates and the latest.
I’d be wrapped if Croatia won the World Cup or any of the Croatian clubs won the Champions League.
Waiting for the ending of Mamic and his CockSuker – should be pretty much like the movie Scarface.
@ Soul Champ
listen dude, I know you pride yourself on positive thinking, mental wellness, etc. i’ve read your website, parts of your book, etc.
svaka cast on that, i wish i could be more positive about some things in life, just in general
but this shit is beyond bad dude, there is no light at the end of the tunnel with all this off the field stuff sranje and the off the field stuff is trickling more and more into the actual repka and the frsutrating part is there is no silver bullet or clear cut answer on getting out of the woods
Mandzo doesn’t “hold up play” he’s actually great about coming back on defense and just causing havoc on his part of the field. He just can finish for dick anymore.
Who’s going to “explode” instead of him? Halilovic who doesn’t deserve NT time and just started getting regular minutes for Giijon? Your boy Rebic, who’s a bonehead, takes stupid cards and hasn’t gotten regular club time since .. maybe his days at RNK Split? Or maybe other wildcards like Pjaca? Or the best option …. Olic doing his patented stepovers on the left flank?
Ante B wrote :
“Does it make a difference to you if, let’s say, for the sake of argument, that Croatia wins the World Cup or Dinamo/Hajduk/Rijeka wins the CL in an a lackadaisical atmosphere with barely anybody caring about it because of said oppression and mafia environment that has completely turned its own supporters off?”
If any of those four squads reached the semi-final of their particular tournament, every Croat would put it all aside – no doubt in my mind.
Very true…..once in the knockout round anything can happen with our mental midgets.
@ Armada
Have you gone to the dark side?
Has the cynical Croat taken over your posts?
Just kidding.
Majke boze .
This too shall pass.
Enjoy these next two matches.
We are due for an offensive explosion.
No Mandžukić holding up the play.
Uvijek vjerni
but note, anything can happen once in the knock out rounds… look at how Turkey stole the Semi’s right from under our noses in 2008
Captain Obvious arrives to save the day 😉
and that is why if we make it into the knockout stage it will not be a big deal. We will benefit from it being watered down.
@Armada I agree they will qualify, but I would be surprised if they don’t make it out of the group stage even with Cacic as the coach because don’t forget 4 out of 6 third place teams will go into knock out rounds due to the expanded format of the Euros from 2016 on
@ Prle
Suker “suffers” from “spells of Jugonostalgia and other garbage”
Spells? So there were times when he’s been a true patriot? When?
The guy has been a grade A shithead since his days at Osijek. It’s not like a switch turned one day and he turned into the piece of filth he is now. He’s a tried and true govnar. Fans were blinded by his goal scoring abilities, WC 98, etc.
@slavonac
Because of the principle of it. Until this regime is out I don’t want anything to do with the national team. Say what you want. I’d rather lose and be terrible with a good solid hns than win 5 world cups under mamic
To me, it’s seems like a false dichotomy. No side at all is offering a solution to this problem.
Ante, you don’t have to explain yourself. I understand fully. And, of course, I agree with what you’ve written.
Mamic & Suker are patriotic scoundrels who “suffer” from spells of Jugonostalgia and other garbage.
Their opposition is YUGOSLAV, SERB, BALKAN through and through.
We, as thousands of other patriots, are stuck between a rock and a hard place.
we’ll beat Bulgaria and Malta, somehow eek out a spot at Euro 2016 in France
some on this site will jerk off all over each other with happiness and will claim we’re “true contenders”!
like clockwork, we’ll shit the bed when it matters most during our group stage games and will be eliminated
Cacic will be fired I’m sure and some new Mamic minion will be installed. There will be outrage, disappointment, etc. People will come on here with their very entertaining posts on how “now it’s really the end of Croatian football!”.Then we’ll be back right to where we are today.
Rinse and repeat.
I’m a fan. I watch the games. I pull for our boys. But the stench is becoming overpowering now.
Doktore,
I completely agree with your stance on Index, Alac, etc. but let’s not paint a picture of Mamic without his stroke of jugoslav love. After all, he declared he wants a yu regional league, knows all of zvezda’s and partizan’s songs and that jugo was the greatest country on earth.
Both sides are shit…but I’ve said before many times that is the biggest tragedy of Mamic. He could have been the absolute greatest we’ve ever had but made abysmal decisions along the way. Now all of Croatian soccer is hurting.
If I had to choose between the two, give me Auparin. To answe my own earlier question…vatrena cast, I understand why you feel like that but I know myself because it already has happened to me with Dinamo. I love them and the repka, will watch them, but it will be very bittersweet, emphasis on the bitter.
Even Cacic’s own family cant handle him being the coach of the repka His mother died as a result.
See how much Zvonko Alac, Dea Redzic and Matija Babic looooove and caaaaare for Croatian football?
Most of you are being taken for a ride by the Yugoslav media in Croatia.
And, INDEX.YU is just the tip of the iceberg.
In case you’ve all forgotten: This is how much Matija Babic, owner of INDEX.YU, “loves” Croatia.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSxTCLOQBfDeX2nkDe0zNtmTwjWd_8SNxDJr7k7qbFuSG-dsKjOMg
See that, there…. he constructed a swastika out of the Croatian grb and posted it on his website.
See how muuuuuch they looooooove Croatia and its football?
😉
What Mamic & Suker failed to do was to generate a true opposition to the Yugoslav forces. They could have been patriotic heroes. But because they messed up so many times of their own accord, they are questioned and doubted by true patriots. As they should be.
However, their questionable characters and acts do not negate the fact that there exists a Yugoslav force just itching to destroy Croatia. And its football with it.
What Mamic & Suker are up to is definitely anti-HRVAT, but nowhere, and I repeat, NOWHERE near what UDBa, INDEX.YU and their ilk are up to. In fact, it’s not even comparable.
true Ziva…but so are tons of other things in Croatia…fucking over Gotovina come’s to mind…the list goes on and on and on…
we focus on the soccer but imagine if we all took part in looking the their politics very closely?
I still think the government is worse than anything…if they had their act together Mamic wouldn’t exist the way he does today!
“In my book if we win the World Cup with the same regime, I wouldn’t celebrate it. But maybe that’s just me.”
really, why not? the players on the field play the game and the last time I checked, Sammir wasn’t on the roster…what would make you “not celebrate” a Croatian win at the World Cup?
My God, I’m desperately waiting to hear this one…
A lot of people say anyone who would sabotage a national team game like what we saw in Split is no true HRVAT. While I agree with that, I use the same logic when discussing Mamic and Puppet Suker. They use the repka for self interest and what they have turned it into has made the average person care less about the repka. To me, what they are doing is just as anti-HRVAT as what the enemies of the Croatian state are doing. One just happens to be worse than the other.
http://direktno.hr/en/2014/direkt/25838/Usta%C5%A1e-lupe%C5%BEi-ljubavnici-i-lu%C4%91aci-Bo%C5%BEe-sje%C4%87ate-li-se-vi-i%C4%8Dega.htm
You never throw the baby out with the bath water. Unless the baby is a Yugoslav.
funny part regarding today’s news and Zoran Milanovic
the Serb papers blasted him, called him names, etc. but he’s one of their own!
It most definitely is JUST him.
yeah it is just you
@antebbb
In my book if we win the World Cup with the same regime, I wouldn’t celebrate it. But maybe that’s just me.
I hate that Milanovie with a passion. i really hope this upcoming election they get rid of that garbage.
The infamous swastika was produced by the remnants of the Yugoslav Secret police that control Croatia. That is why the perpetrators were never apprehended.
And never will be.
The same remnants control Zoran Milanovic, the man who called the nation he leads an accident and coincidence, but is now turning that same nation into a massive refuge for ME migrants.
Go figure!
Anyone who sabotages a NT game e.g painting a fukn swaztika is a fukn cetnik full stop. Im all for the grb but that shits anti croatia. U try explaining the reason of gettn the NT kicked out of FIFA to an outsider and they will think your a fukn idiot.
Here’s a question to all of you:
Does it make a difference to you if, let’s say, for the sake of argument, that Croatia wins the World Cup or Dinamo/Hajduk/Rijeka wins the CL in an a lackadaisical atmosphere with barely anybody caring about it because of said oppression and mafia environment that has completely turned its own supporters off?
All I ask is be honest.
interesting points Slavonac!
I was thinking about this the other day and similar to USA bringing down FIFA corruption (hopefully), I said to myself the only way we may finally get Mamic is if he was stupid enough to do some of the money laundering, etc within a US bank or banking system and if the DoJ here went after him. I’m starting to become convinced that in Cro he will never really get taken down
Unfortunately I don’t see why he would’ve had any biz dealings within US or with US banks so that will never happen. Plus as others have pointed out he is “small potatoes” being from a small country and not really impacting stuff outside of Cro
I have many family members from Slavonija, one of my cousins has 11 kids…my sister, my niece and her husband and the majority of my family have to work in other cities to survive…things never change, they’ve gotten worse in the past 10 years.
I also have family in Split…same shit…few jobs, low pay…
when HDZ was in power, everyone was hopeful, then they fucked the entire country and caused a major change…then come this degenerate government, who have also fucked the people…so the country, out of desperation have voted for opposite parties in the hopes of change and we think the soccer organization will be better once Mamic is gone?
in my opinion, Mamic is a opportunist and the corrupt people he pays off are just as bad as he is…or worse. they are there to uphold the laws, he certainly only looks for his benefits and in doing so, has become somewhat powerful…the problem is everyone loves to bark but nobody over there will do a fucking thing to uphold the laws and maintain some ethics…
we can all wait out this regime and the next one will look different but do much of the same.
Hajduk is a decent example…from what I read here and not from my personal knowledge…they’ve allowed their own people to fuck the entire organization…Dinamo is just 1000 times more powerful, so Mamic gets more attention
true…..plus, who really wants to attend a game in a stadium that has no roof, no wifi, lack of quality restrooms, lack of beverages and food selection, no HD scoreboards, uncomfortable chairs, lack of suites…..should I go on?
people have bigger problems in croatia to worry about from economy, getting paid on time, supporting a family etc, over a soccer game/repka
In fact I think the repka has a stronger following outside of Croatia. Hence the empty stadiums, etc. people feel like they have to their Croatianess outside of Croatia.
because the “way it works over there” doesn’t allow us to maximize our potential. Imagine if we had qualified people running things in that country.
Because you hopefully have values.
I see it like this. that’s their mentality, thats how life works over there…its who you know, not your credentials that get you places…so if it won’t change, why should I stop my passion for the team I love?
That’s my point, how are people okay with supporting that? I’ll just keep doing my thing until things are run right. I don’t have blind homerism. Call it what you want but I have my own values and choose not to support a corrupt hns no matter how “well” we do.
yes, I agree…but knowing the mentality of many Croatians…they’d see it as an opportunity to bring in their interests…same shit, different pile!
@ziva
So far it hasn’t been short term. It’s dragging on lol.
@slavonac
No I didn’t say that, but it would be a great fucking start wouldn’t it?
Vatrena…” If you keep doing the same thing and except a different outcome it’s called insanity”
you think once Mamic is finally gone all the problems will disappear?
ELVIS is the man with the brains on this website.
Svaka cast, majstore. Samo nastavi!
so, short term pain for long term gain is what you are saying???????
Funny, I think someone on this site has said the same thing.
Wait a minute, so if we keep supporting the same thing that’s saying that we are okay with how things are. I say fuck that shit and I’ve been one of the biggest supporters of the repka. If you keep doing the same thing and except a different outcome it’s called insanity. So people like iggy can call me a cunt all they want but I don’t follow blindly. I’ll be a bigger supporter of the repka if we suck and do things the right way than being the best and being run by whoever the fuck runs it anymore. So if we’re going to waste this generation of players then so be it, it’s a shame but it’s the HNS’s fault.
If you support or don’t support the national team, that doesn’t make a person any less or any more of a Hrvat. Afterall, its only sports and only about 15% of the population cares about sport
Rooting for ones national team doesn’t make a person a hrvat. Living like a true hrvat and advocating the “za dom…spremni” lifestyle is what makes a hrvat.
As for me, I always want what is best for Cro.
I’m in exactly the same boat! Well said….
Ziva, you been pretty consistent with your stance on this topic while I think the majority are somewhere between wanting to support the savez and fed up with all the issues. The difference between you and most of us is that you’re probably more involved with reading up on the issues and to your benefit, you detach your emotions…as you’ve said before, you bet against Hrvatska if you know you can make money doing so.
I think the majority of us are getting to the point of being exhausted with the issue …***Mamic***….but I’m not certain how many are willing to completely let go and stop being supportive. its one of the things that define us in our personal lives…many of us walk around as proud Croats, my kids tell their friends in school they’re Croatian, we all talk about some of our players playing at good clubs…you know what I mean…right?
everytime I think I’m ready to pull away, I find myself making an excuse to stay…like breaking up with a chick you know thats bad for you…but she’s an amazing lay…
I think for me, I just feel like I’d be betraying those I support if I decided to stop supporting them.
@Iggy
as you say “hypocrites” all of them
I forgot to add quotations to “reporters.” Serbo-phile, Yugoslav and communist agitators, is more like it.
ZDS!
http://www.dnevno.hr/sport/nogomet/postaje-opako-hns-novinarima-fotoreporterima-portala-index-hr-zabranio-dolazak-na-utakmice-hrvatske-reprezentacije-834428
Sreca u nesreci. INDEX.YU reporters BANNED from HNS matches.
ZDS!
True, but that doesn’t make it right.
So we should just keep the same clowns in place. Fine. But, don’t expect the national team to get results at the WC or Euros either. When you are led by idiots, expect shit results.
You’re not wrong. AND most on here conveniently or inconveniently seem to forget ALOT of federations are equally or more corrupt promoting those who should not be on the repka, under the table deals to have players chosen and play for the team, backroom deals with FIFA and UEFA deals, etc.
that isnt my logic at all
my logic are these people are cunts and there will always be cunts and you dont turn your back on the repka because somewhere, there is a cunt
tito et al is entirely different, it’s like the george bush thing.. THAT shit should have people raging in the streets but nup..
what im saying is on the grand scale of global corruption that goes on in the world, Mamic is fucking small fry, TINY PISSANT FRY. he’s insignificant
and yet people on here go on like he’s LORD FUCKING SAURON or something
OMG all hope is lost the dark lord has his tentacles everywhere
fuck me its pathetic !
slowly gettin there fellas!
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yay da crosports.com car !
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LOL 🙂
Hey Iggy, what is the Aussie fascination with sprinkling the word shit into every third word in a sentence…curious minds want to know?!?! LOL
P.S. You’re not wrong that corruption is not everywhere but it doesn’t mean you can’t despise it. By your logic, Croatians should have simply rolled over when Tito croaked and let the next Yugo shit-bbag keep banging them up the shitter…see I used the shit word too!
http://www.historyofjihad.org/croatia.html
that’s the thing about all the right wingers on this site. They go on and on about how you arent allowed to support the repka cos mamic and mamic is corrupt, and yet when you look at Halliburton and the billions of dollars made off the backs of americans being taken to war by cheney, rumsfeld and co, now THAT is fucking corruption. Mamic is GODS LITTLE ANGEL compared to the US elite. And i dont see any of you right wing yanks saying you have to disown america, renounce your citizenship are you are NEVER allowed to support anything american because at the top it’s corrupt as fuck.
Fuck me. Here is how it is: the top of politics, corporations, global bodies like FIFA are ALL FUCKING CORRUPT. That is the WAY THE WORLD WORKS.
CUNTS MAKE THE WORLD SPIN.
Mamic is not unique. This is everywhere. Why you shitbags think it precludes you from supporting the repka is fucking beyond me. Im sure you bag of shits are happy to use your iPhones built in suicide factories and vote for right-wing presidents that put the country into neverending wars so their buddies can make billions and yet – when it comes to supporting the repka, omg NO WAY – that is just so corrupt !
fucking hypocrites
yeah, for sure bud!
did the person have sex with kids? it seems to suggest they didnt – actually the title is an oxymoron:
” I’m a pedophile, but not a monster
I’m attracted to children but unwilling to act on it.”
A pedophile is someone who molested a child so you either acted on it and you are or you didnt and you arent so that’s wrong.
This reminds me of the other thread with that devout catholic fellow who was saying gay sex is a sin but being gay isnt so if u dont do the gay sex but are gay it’s A-okay !
I guess if u have a sexual fantasy with kids but never do anything with it u havent committed any crime.
Lots of people might be tempted to do bad things
(cheating, having pre-marital sex, banging hoes comes to mind from frequenting this site) but if u dont act on it, good on u !
Cheers Armada ! i thought u’d like my lil carsie !
http://readersupportednews.org/news-section2/308-12/16561-focus-cheneys-halliburton-made-395-billion-on-iraq-war
@ IGGY
The fact that they published that editorial just like the NYT did last year speaks volumes. They are slowly trying to introduce this evil into society. It starts off slow. They are testing the waters and more is to come.
http://www.salon.com/2015/09/21/im_a_pedophile_but_not_a_monster/
The Republican party is run by Corporations and Evangicals. I don’t support them either. It was the Evangicals who wanted the U.S. to invade Iraq. They wanted U.S. troops in the Middle East to protect Israel.
majka bozja…. stvarno, co?
Video games are awesome.
Anyway i play Forza and a big part of that can be painting. It’s cumbersome and takes ages but worth the rewards. Never seen anyone do a HRV car before but i think i might do a CROSPORTS.COM CAR !
Some guerilla marketing for the site 😉
just started and did the emblem so far, will keep you all updated ! i know you all approve of video game-playing and croatia painting in said video games ! 😉
http://tinypic.com/r/2j6aa7d/8
most major news outlets are just regurgitating this now:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/24/us-europe-migrants-croatia-serbia-idUSKCN0RO0FV20150924
Serbia Compares Croatia To Nazis: Croatia has banned Serbian-registered vehicles from entering
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/croatia-serbia-nazis-refugees_5603cca7e4b08820d91bad3d
LOL
I never sold Modric as a bust. All I did was repeat was the Real fans and media were saying about him and then I asked the rhetorical question ” is he a bust”?
Krammaric should get a look for the repka?????? Sure, why not. Let’s call up guys who sit the bench and haven’t done anything in months. That makes sense.
The good thing in all this stance with the repka is having to play the next home game without fans. Can you imagine what would happen if fans were allowed in. Then again, that would be fun to watch. We are losing out on the entertainment aspect. I still can’t imagine we have fans who get so emotionally attached to the repka that they would commit acts of violence. Much easier to watch the games in a suite or at home. And not go to a Croatian stadium that lacks wifi, HD scoreboard, suites, roof, wide variety of food and beverage.
@ Bobby V
Mancini has been playing Perišić all over the place in the attacking third for Inter.
I say design the entire attack to give Perišić the freedom to create scoring plays (see Ronaldo Madrid).
You made a great point about not having enough young man talent in the repka. Perišić is a stud in his mid 20’s who can run all day and have enough skill and experience to perform on this stage.
Kalinic seems to have found some form and is in that same demographic.
Kramaric should get a look too.
@ Ziva
Politics as they are I will enjoy a good outing against Bulgaria.
Not sure where the JOY is experienced in the Za Basement Spremni lifestyle?
Real Mateo … Kovacic is a stud !
Real Modric is giving him what he lacked in his first months when you and others sold him down the “BUST” river.
Stay thirsty my friend … Karlovačko !
Cacic said that in the absence of Mandzukic (injured) Nikola Kalinic is the favorite to start at forward.
If Cacic doesn’t call Eduardo as a late replacement, then I’d rather he go with all midfielders.
We have been having to dribble the ball into the net to score the past few years because nobody, outside of maybe Perisic, can score from outside the box anyway.
That’s a good quote by Harry Neale. Norway beat Croatia because Croatia refused to work hard.
What an arrogant bitch this Danni Matijaca is.
Pfft. Dino Radja should talk.
@Slavonac
I didn’t watch the Norway game, but that 1min & 20secs video was hard to watch. Surely you don’t think football is that structured, and those players are carrying out Kovac’s instructions to the letter? If I watched the Norway game I could comment more.
Germany looked good though.
Mandzu is out for those two games???
http://www.total-croatia-news.com/sport/948-mandzukic-out-for-bulgaria-and-malta
Cool we might get some goals !
🙂
“The left hates the middle class because it stands in their way.”
I think the people who had the middle class are the GOP who do shit at the behest of the 1% so those cunts can squeeze the resources out of said middle class even more.
I have said in previous threads Ziva’s admiration of Bush and Co has always proved a good laugh. Especially when you consider how much he goes on about corruption and Mamic and he wants Cro to lose cos it’s corrupt but then in the next sentence harks back to the good ol’ days of Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld – no corruption there of course !
Always good for a laugh.
What is this salon website and where is it promoting pedophilia? All i can see is some commentary on Colbert, etc. I see no promotion of pedophilia ?
Cacic will be a champ. Mark my words – he is messianic fellas !
How else can you describe that MO but as divine?
🙂
…Girtl.
I say remen.
Some of these comments are pretty funny today…this one takes the cake for comment of the day:
Bobby V said “Maybe we need a guy who looks like he’s ready to take off his kais and apply a beating.”
Hahaha….
For what it’s worth, here are some articles related to “Kralj” Mamic:
First Cafe/Bar Bans Screening of Croatian National Team Games
http://www.total-croatia-news.com/sport/954-and-so-it-starts-first-bar-bans-screening-of-croatian-national-team-games
Dino Rađa & Mario Stanić: No One Perceives the National Football Team as Their Own Anymore
http://www.total-croatia-news.com/sport/952-stanic-and-rada-no-one-perceives-the-national-football-team-as-their-own-anymore
How the National Football Federation Became Mamić Inc.
http://www.total-croatia-news.com/sport/945-how-the-national-football-federation-became-mamic-inc
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haha – true. Although, he was more of a drunk uncle.
Strucnjak Stimac had that look and we saw where that got the team.
Why do I keep thinking that this Cacic is going to be the next Tomislav Ivic?
I don’t know – it’s something about his look – like a character from SCTV.
Maybe we need a guy who looks like he’s ready to take off his kais and apply a beating.
Also, Lovren had what appears to be a nasty foot/ankle injury where he was carried off. Some might say this is the most productive thing he has done in Liverpool jersey.
They will produce against Bulgaria because getting rid of Kum Kovac was the short term kick in the ass the players needed. I’m willing to be t they won’t tune out the new coach right like they did Kum Kovac. But, give it time, Cacic’s inefficiencies will show up eventually.
So, my friends, get ready for some over the top reactions after the Bulgaria match because you know the apologists and homers will come out and praise the Cacic’s hire and claim we are on the right path. It will make for good comedy. But we all know what awaits us.
Everyone take a deep breath. Our players did well today but you know what’s it means SHIt until they produce for the repka.
We see this too many times. Produce for club but not country.
Will see in a couple of weeks when we play our final two games.
I’ve never changed my stance on Kovacic. This year he will be a rotational player. His coach and sporting director have said that. He will get spot starts throughout the year, but for the bigger matches he will be on the bench unless there are injuries. He will also likely be the first guy off the bench depending on the scoreline. I don’t get how any of this is me ripping Kovacic or discrediting him. Only the truth.
And what have I made up in the past? It’s not my style to make things up.
@ Maminjo
You are beast !
@ Bobby V
Seeing Kovacic and Modric was early Bozic for me.
Was it just me or did Luka look really quick today?
Real Modric or Real Mateo, either one or both in the side running the midfield.
@ Cacic
Please play all the attacking talent in some fucking formation that can produce Armageddon on the Bulgarian goal.
@ Slavonac
As ball player back in the day it was absolutely wack when coaches would put scrubs in the way talent expressing themselves on the court. OFCOURSE this effects morale over a qualifying campaign.
That play hard is corny shit on the highest levels.
Thanks bringing some common sense to the Croatian community.
Ziva, when you make a comment that Kovacic is starting because of injuries to others, you are displaying your lack of soccer knowledge.
Even with everyone healthy, it’s a good chance he starts this game.
It’s the first of back-to-back midweek games – with another Champions League game upcoming.
A 21 year old Croat starts for Real Madrid and it clearly upsets him.
Comes up with an excuse to try and discredit him.
I’d love to hear what Kovacic would say about you living in your Mother’s basement, you fuckin Croatian Archie Bunker.
A 21 year old Croat starts for Real Madrid and it clearly upsets him.
Comes up with an excuse to try and discredit him.
I’d love to hear what Kovacic would say about you living in your Mother’s basement, you fuckin Croatian Archie Bunker.
I’m still waiting to hear how I’m with Holiga.
I’m just trolling the two of them.
But what I find funny is that every time I do this, there is a brand new user that messages me.
Who the hell is ‘Cico i’?
Ziva is this you doing this? or someone else?
@maminjo
He will never apologize hE is a troll who makes stuff up just to create tension let him carry on with his garbage.
….and I’m pulling an Ante B and dropping the mic for Maminjo after that last post of his above.
Don’t pick it up yet, let it roll around the floor a little.
Maminjo you must be retarded like Ivica. Give it up with this love you have for Ziva. Many times he puts you in your place.
Get his email and that way you both can stay in constant touch.
Biggest cheater is Hajduk and that govno cico. 🙂
@Cico #50,000 – haha, yeah, Sesvete and Lokomotiva – two more pizdas in a pod.
Easy there, Tata Ziva, don’t be angry. If Real Madrid started 11 Croatians, they’d be in the third division.
First off, you and Ante B need to clarify your hardcore Croatness yet continued support for Holiga.
In addition to this, you personally need to apologize for Rebinjo for constantly making fun of him despite being good enough to start for the currently 2nd best team in Serie A.
You also need to apologize to Kovacic as he had a great game today, and was NOT a starter as a result of injuries. As you’ve mentioned in the past, this is just your typical rotation of players and depth. James can start some games, Mateo others. This would happen with or without injuries.
You also made a similar false comment last week about Arsenal resting half their team against Dinamo, when in fact, it was just three regulars.
You sound like B92 and all these Srpski News Portals with their half-truths aimed at painting a false picture. At this point, you may as well apologize for Srebrenica, Vukovar, Dubrovnik, and Sarajevo as well.
I’m waiting…
@Bobby V . I guess all those teams from zagreb learn how to CHEAT like their bbbig brothers {g}nk international gov HNL team ! Ha-Ha !! Bog , Hrvati , USA , Uncheating teams , HAJDUK. i HNS !!!
Apologize for what to Rebinjo?????
Real Madrid can start 11 hrvati and won’t mean shit if the play like crap for the repkal. Kovacic is a rotational player at this point. He got the start because of injuries to other starters.
7-0 !!!
Two Croatians starting for Real Madrid today in a league game.
Think about that – really hard.
Budi Ponosan
….and Barcelona goes down hard to Celta 1-4 – Rakitic did not start.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/02/13/as-waits-for-jail-croatian-soccer-player-deeply-regrets-involvement-in-match/
Here’s one that I didn’t read much about before. Might be like the WWE at times, but, we still like to watch.
Looks like you owe Rebinjo an apology
Kalinic with a goal today. And even bigger news, Rebic got the start. I repeat Rebic got the start.
@nepoznat
thank you sharing, very interesting what they went through
@ Elvis interesting view point, care to elaborate why that would be the case in your opinion?
@Poglavnik hvala
@Ero hvala! hopefully closer to the Libertarian side of the Centrist area hehe
took the quiz. i got centrist
Game set and match, Nepoznat!
@ nepoznat
Libertarian can only work in a world where there is no malice and where everyone has the same skills and abilities to succeed on their own. I see a Darwin influence.
Here a video for you progressives.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4d7_1442858561
@Split I’m from northern Adriatic in Kvarner area, almost equal distant from Pula, Rijeka and Zadar. My ancestor was the first mayor of Losinj and we still have family there (cousins), although my father was born in Ilovik which is the last island before Dalamatia and just south of Losinj. We also had family in Trieste at the time, and that side did not lose their fleet of ships (which were not fishing vessels but shipping ones and sailed around the world and made them rather weathly and into shipping magnates).
My father and family escaped, 7 of them, in a < 5m boat from Ilovik straight across to Anconna, Italia navigating by stars and rowing + small sail without using the 1hp motor or lights because of the patrol boats. Once they were able to use the motor it got them to within a few kilometers of the coast before it conked out and they had to row/sail the rest of the way. It took them nearly a full 24 hours to cross the sea! My nonno then made everyone change into their Sunday clothes so they would look respectable once at the port. Turns out his navigation was nearly perfect as they wound up just 1 village away from their destination where some family was already living (slightly north of Anconna).
Let me guess, you are from… SPLIT? haha 🙂
The poll question is stupid. Even if Cacic wins both games…1st or 2nd place is not controlled by them..thats up to Italy and Norway
Indeed.
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Only you can make billions off war and genocide and be an “upstanding citizen”
as my dad would say…
“America…. nice country”
@Elvis
Honestly there is zero difference between GOP and Dems here in USA, they are 2 wings of the Power Party and not 2 separate parties. Sure they create fake wedge issues to divide and distract so they can conquer us and keep up appearances that they are different & unique parties. But in reality and in the end, both are out to screw us while enriching themselves and the special interests that control them!
Trust me that is 100% true… my cousin is a high ranking GOP operative with 15+ years in the Capital working for Bush and various members of Congress and helped run the NRSC which retook the Senate for the GOP in 2014 elections. He is currently working on a GOP Presidential campaign. So I get a lot of good intel from him and his friends, and behind the scenes the Dem & GOP big wigs get together and pour fine wine with their expensive dinners hob knobbing together at out expense, meanwhile 3 hours prior they were “at each others throats” on the floor of the House/Senate (for show of course)
Think back over the years, what really has changed when GOP cedes power to Dems or vice-versa? NOTHING. Reagan continued & Accelerated many of Carter’s policies (starting with military build up), Clinton continued HW Bush’s tax increases and de-regulation, W Bush was worse than Clinton and Obama is basically the same as W. When the GOP took over the House and then the Senate what changed? Obamacare? nope. Deficit reduction? Yes a little bi with sequestor but that was the fallback and both sides were “against” it, and even then the GOP backed out of that partially and wants to back out more (and the Dems obviously want their half of the sequestor backed out, they are happy to spend spend spend).
Honestly, it’s a shame to say this, it’s the middle classes own fault that they are being decimated. They are the stupid ones that keep voting in these dildos instead of voting for the best candidate (almost always a 3rd party person), they choose the lesser of two evils from the false dichotomy they are given from the 2 Wings of the Power Party. I think this spells true disaster eventually since the middle class empowerment is what really made this country great, but the tippy top 0.1% folks can’t get uber rich with a strong middle class
Luckily and hopefully for you all too I have been blessed and successful and will continue to do so, so personally I won’t be an impacted as those folks in the middle class
#VoteThirdParty #VoteLibertarian
@nepoznat
what otok is your family from?
Kova starting for Madrid today.
Fox News baby!!!!!
Next thing you will tell is that Bush messed up by invading Iraq and caused all this shit in the Middle East. On the bright side, stocks in defense contractors have done very nice since 2003 and for that I would like to thanks Uncle George, Uncle Dick and Uncle Donald. Great Americans.
@nepoznat
I agree with a lot your points.
but I feel like with that survey, everyone is a Libertarian lol
All main stream media has a left wing agenda. Some are a little more open about it. This is true in the U.S. and Europe. Just look at the muslim rape gangs in England that got no media coverage but only after they could not contain it anymore a few stories were published. Imagine if there was a English gang raping young muslim girls?
The mouth-piece of the oligarchical/globalist/marxist International, The New York Times, also promotes pedophelia. Albeit, a lot more subtly then the sewer salon.com.
They do it by “academic” editorial pieces trivializing the crimes of pedophile criminals in a “progressive” attempt to rationalize their crimes and criminality.
This is the same NYT that is staffed almost exclusively by Jews and homosexuals. And the same NYT that DENIED the slaughter of Russians and others by Joseph Stalin. And the same paper that habitually attacks the Roman Catholic Church, except when Francis “battles” global warming. Or is it climate change. Or whatever the next substitute for a God the psychopaths will think of next.
Where is the evidence that Mamic has done anything against the law regarding making money on dinamo players ? To me it sounds like a Torcida conspiracy ?
I kinda like the idea of Cacic as coach. Hes attacking minded. As far as lm concerned anyone who boycotts or sabotages a NT game is a cetnik. Cause only Cetniks would do the same. All you conspiracy theorists go argue the flat earth case or why bush ordered 911. Fukn idiots.
mb13…hahaha…now thats a name I haven’t heard in a looong time!
Reality lol???
What happened to your family is just what the Democrats will do. Reality lol???
What happened to your family is just what the Democrats will do. You really need to study liberal Marxism to understand. Gay marriage, black lives matters, illegal immigration, selling baby parts, third wave feminism are all part of their plan to destabilize western society and destroy the middle class. The left hates the middle class because it stands in their way. The thing is there is nothing better than Western society. Nothing!!!
I’m socially conservative and economically a “liberal” which makes me a – fascist. 🙂 Have a nice day!
take this quiz, you might be surprised to find out that you too are Libertarian (more people are then they realize… if only they know and voted that way we’d be much better off!!!):
http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz/quiz.php
@Spajic s neba
lol yeah I’m a Communist… my family would totally disown me, the Communists stole my family’s fleet of fishing vessels that they worked hard for generations to acquire, including traveling around the world repeatedly to make more money including coming to USA several times in 1800s even to Alaska before returning home to our otok. All for it to be stolen from us after WWII. Then my bis-nonno was given the ‘privilege’ of captaining the largest of the same ships but this time the sardines they caught were not his!
just because I’m not a scary ultra far right sociopath and instead I am an honest person that lives in reality & the modern era doesn’t make me a Communist
for the record while I am registered as a Republican here in the USA I am actually a Libertarian when in the ballot booth and how I think about life. That means economically I am conservative, but socially I am liberal… why socially liberal? because I don’t care what you smoke/drink/do or who you have sex with behind closed doors as that’s your own problem. As long as you are not hurting another person with your actions, you should be allowed to do it and the government should have basically ZERO say in our private lives IMO
Bolest!
So I take it that you won’t be voting for Bernie Sanders?
writing
yea…now they are wiring articles about pedophiles.being ok on salon.com. Sick degenerate communists.
Progressives are sick individuals that do not know they are sick. Making them doubly dangerous.
Agreed.
There is nothing lower than a progressive.Sickest people on earth next to muslims of course.
@slavonac – a favorite line of mine from Harry Neale:
“Hard work beats talent unless talent works hard”.
more fun with muzzies
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3246453/We-going-majority-soon-Furious-Muslim-parents-taunt-New-Jersey-school-board-religious-holiday-closure.html
Typical lazy communist.
@Spajic s neba
no offense dude but your link is of such poor quality it’s not fit for print on Fox News OR MSNBC websites… let alone to be linked here!
thanks for the laugh though
also it’s worth pointing out that for Fox News it’s GOOD for business when a Dem is in the White House or in control of Congress…. more for Fox to bitch and moan about and to get the angry rich white folks worked up about
if GOP controls congress and/or President, they have to do positive / glowing pieces and coverage which generate < half the emotional response from their targeted demographic and therefore their viewership, ad rates, and revenue, etc all don't do as well
sarcasm is best for verbal communication, written it only works some of the time
Fox News (and MSNBC) is entertainment and sensationalism… not news gathering & reporting. Fox News doesn’t care about Americans, it cares about making $$$ and they have identified that angry old white demographics are willing to glue their eyeballs to TV to get sensationalized inaccurate coverage of agenda driven nonsense. It works great for their business model, unfortunately whipping up the angry old white people has put the GOP on a course from which it is hard to recover from… and one which makes it damn near impossible for a conservative to get elected President again.
makes for great off year congressional elections when the Dem’s voters don’t turn out… but every other cycle is a Presidential one where they get wiped out again.
2020 will be the turning point as it is both Presidential year and the new census. Afterwards the district gerrymandering will be re-done, this time to suit the Dems not the GOP since the Dems will likely to have won a ton of races up and down the ballots across the states. 2020s will likely see a much more Dem congress, vs 2010s which had the non-Presidential cycle elections which catapulted GOP into power in congress & in state and local based races. 2022 will be the first non-Presidential cycle in which the GOP’s off cycle turn out won’t result in major victories… and if the GOP has not already splintered (party has been at war with itself for years now) the losses in 2008, 2012, 2016, 2020 and 2022 will certainly break the camels back and force the GOP to modernize it’s policies & party.
Unfortunately for the GOP, white rich people aren’t aging fast enough to replace the white rich people that are dying off each year but meanwhile young, poor and “brown” folks are multiplying at a much quicker rate. GOP knows this, yet they can’t help themselves but to alienate these people, making it harder and harder for the party to recover!
but back to my point, Fox News only cares about it’s bottom line. If it cared what was best for conservatives and creating a path for a conservative agenda going forwards it would drastically change it’s course and business model… but it wouldn’t be as lucrative of a model so it’s not going to change… so it will continue to hamstrung the GOP and lead it down a dark path to near oblivion
holy tangent batman!
Regarding the NYTimes:
http://takimag.com/article/all_the_news_their_bias_allows_taki/print
You’re ahead of me Ziva. I won’t even read Holiga. Once I read his Lijepa li si bashing article, I had enough. But, I understand why you would read around.
@Elvis………..well aware of Breitbart.
@nepoznat……….you do know what sarcasm is, right? Or playing to the crowd?
Anyway………….the friendly folks at Fox News care so much about America and are only looking out for what is best for Americans, errrrr, white Americans, errrrrr white Americans with money, errrrrr white Americans with money who side on conservative issues.. Ahh, that is the America I love.
@ Ziva
Read
http://www.breitbart.com
@Ziva
Fox News is “trusted and respected” and NYT is “idiotic”?!?
No one can “trust and respect” your “idiotic” posts if you make unintelligent posts like that!
WSJ & NYT = “trusted and respected”
Faux News and MSNBC = “idiotic” and terrible
Want proof? Google “Fox News viewers least informed” and you’ll get tons of hits from reputable studies such as from the Brookings Institute (re: Immigration – 2014), Fairleigh Dickenson (re: overall – 2011 & 2012 separately), etc
or like this one done by Bruce Bartlett, a Conservative who worked in both the Reagan and HW Bush administrations in 80s & 90s:
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2604679
Exactly. Hrvatski Forrest Gump. You’ve heard it before. And it’s true.
Olic is an example of a guy who made the most of his skills. Nobody will every question his work rate.
Perisic is a worker no doubt, but to me a bit of a hybrid though as he has skill and speed to not be considered a true “plumber.”
Agree with you re Olic….that’s why I’ll never say anything negative about the guy….his training regimen is legendary which has allowed him to make the most of his career. If other more talented players ever PAID Olic to take them through his training regimen they would be so much better for it.
Sude mi,
What about Perisic? I agree with your analysis though. For me that’s why I am a fan of Olic, always will be.
Thanks Slavonac,
Yes, I have the scars to prove the borac handle and that is why I truly appreciated the guys who bleed for the shirt. They truly do go un-noticed most of the time.
A TEAM is one with a mix of attributes and at this moment I am not sure I see the borac in the current group of players.
Dado Prso was one of the guys I admired for his story of not giving up on the game many times as he moved up, and then fighting through all the difficulties he had with his knee….guess that is why the Rangers supporters also loved him so much.
P.S. Much of the issues we have with the current roster boils down to a small selection pool. Croatia develops an incredible number of elite footballers given its population, problem is statistically we will always lack in some areas.
I think Maminjo has been playing too much Jump to the Conclusions from Office Space. I never once called for the boycott of the repka. All I said was that one day the repka will turn into Dinamo…and it has. Was I wrong about that? Where does Holiga factor in?
@maminjo………….where have I chosen Holiga? What nonsense are you typing. I have no opinion either way of Holiga as I do not know him personally. I don’t agree with his politics – that is clear, but I do read his articles. I read everyone’s articles. I read the yugo media in Cro and I read the true right wing. Same thing in the US. I read and watch trusted and respected media outlets like the Wall Street Journal and Fox News. But, I also read to see what the idiotic element has to say in the NY Times and MSNBC and how they fabricate the news to protect the liberals.
Back to the comment about our players being world class. A few are, but none of them are leaders at their respective clubs.
When you think of Barca and Real Madrid, there are at least 5 or 6 guys who come to mind as the leaders on those teams before Modric and Rakitic pop up. You can probably go beyond 5 or 6 before they come up. Not their fault, but also a telling sign about the lack of leadership on the repka.
If you don’t lead at the club level, tough to think you will lead the repka. Only one who comes close to that role is probably Srna and he is on the downhill of his career.
Ziva said:
“Job of the coach is to position the team/players in the best spot for them to succeed. After that it is up to the players”
BINGO!
sude mi…pa ti si “borac”!
I remember several years ago my coach was talking about the value of certain players, the borci, the guys that don’t get enough credit for their hard work but do so much and sacrifice themselves for the better of the team…very important players to the team but it takes a special type of player to be a borac!
my coaches example was about a player that was extremely tough, he was quick at recovering when he got beat and he never gave up…”ma taj bi isao u duel sa glavom di obican covjek nebi isao nogom”…basically, hard to find guys like that but every team needs fighters that win balls and lay it off to the playmakers.
its also important to play the game through your strengths and exposing their weaknesses…whether that means to speed the play up or slow it down…work down the wings or short passes diagonally…noge do noge…always ensuring you have 2 passing options…trokut..hard work is expected at that level, when one team is more talented, thats when that talent has to be utilized and its when the coaching/managing is most important to benefit the team.
defending is easy when you hold the line at centre and don’t allow your opponents space, especially if they can’t find the gaps…this is what happened vs Norway…we became frustrated and Norway gained confidence, they gained from our lack of advancing the ball and it was only a matter of time before they got their chances and scored.
on a side note, now I know why you played at a good level, its hard to find good, hard and tough players that can breakup the play and cause turnover for your team…I can’t brag that is one of my strengths, I was always a playmaker but feisty…your role was much tougher but got less recognition.
I have said it before. I don’t think it matters who the coach is. These players are suppose to be world class. They need a coach to tell them how to play? The need a coach to motivate them to win? The only motivation they should need is pride for their nation. If they just played to their potential and actual had love for the Croatian nation they would win. These aren’t Housleague soccer players.
Hammer, yeah I agree with you, distractions should stay in the dressing room and once you walk towards the field everything else is secondary. the tactical part is where you need adjustments from the coaching staff, the playing part is on the players…
when we lose quality and options through questionable decisions…ie…Pjaca played right in behind the striker when we played Azerbaijan, Kovac’s comment was that he played there while he coached him for the under 21 squad while traditionally, Pjaca plays out wide…how effective was he that game? then, he started Badelj (before the game I thought it was an ok idea, then we saw he didn’t produce well), I expected a bit more from Badelj, he didn’t show much…then of course we have Pranjic, who during his best years would attack down the wing and sent in many crosses and passes throughout the game…how often does he provide service nowadays, how often do we see him like a fish out of water defending? those are 3 changes that affect the entire 11…
when we played Norway, I ask you to go back and review the game. I saw a video here: https://www.facebook.com/IvanIlecicOnce/videos/933119416729190/?pnref=story
I saw our desperate plays during the game and then last week saw this, look at the tactics setup here…
its hard to balance blame when the coach sets up the style of play…yes, players play but when you get the tactics wrong, you are fighting an uphill battle.
Maminjo,
I doubt that highly. They can boycott and wish for Mamic’s fall independent of the Holigas of the world.
I gotta admit I love that time that Mamic called out Jovanovic on the air. It was funny. Entertainment as always.
But Ante B and Živa Istina are hardcore Croat’s who choose the Holigas over the Mamićs.
I’m confused.
The boycott organized by Yugoslav national-chauvinists (Index.YU et al) HELPS Zdravko Mamic RETAIN power.
Forced to choose between Zdravko Mamic and the Alexander Holigass of the world, the Croat patriot ALWAYS chooses Mamic. He is, in fact, the lesser of the two evils. But nonetheless, evil.
@Ziva
So, did Strucnjak Stimac and Kum Kovac position the players to succeed?
Endless debate really and frankly behind us now….on to the next saviour!
Thanks for that quote Doktor Prle….you are right, and makes a lot of sense. Let’s all not forget all the shit the UDBA pulled in the 60’s, 70’s, 80’s within the diaspora….now it seems to be prevalent in the domovina!
Evo netko objavio na 24, ljudi kuže
“ljudi ne znam jel tko vidio što radi index. Prvo su napravili face page na kojem pozivaju rušenje reprezentaciju i organiziranje nereda za zadnje 2 utakmice a jutros su napravili članak sa popisom igrača i linkovima društvenih mreža prema svakom igraču sa pozivom da ih ljudi zatrpaju porukama i zabrane im igrati za reprezentaciju. Najgore je što ljudi na to reagiraju jer misle da je to protiv Mamića, ali to nema veze sa time. Ako malo pogledate tko radi za index, to su Matija Babić, Dea Režiž i Zvonko Alač, trojac koji je izjavio da će ugasiti crkvu u hrvatskoj, koji je nacrtao kukasti križ u kockicama još prije par godina i koji su nedavno napisali da je hrvatska zemlja zlih i bolesnih ljudi u članku. U njihovim komentarima se skupljaju Srbi i Muslimani koji su jedva dočekali ovo i nadaju se rušenju reprezentacije. Zato vas molim, podržite reprezentaciju, ovo nije pitanje Mamića, ovo je puno dublje. Nemojte dopustiti da nas poraze Srbi i oni koji psihopatski mrze hrvatsku.”
Just because Mamic & Co. are gangsters, doesn’t mean there isn’t a separate front out to destroy all things Croatian, including the Croatian national team. There is.
Unfortunately, Mamic & Co. feed off these Yugoslav national-chauvinists which in effect actually helps him retain power.
Doktor Prle opposes the following:
AGAINST Yugoslav national-chauvinists (Holiga, Dezulovic, Lalic, Markovina et al)
AGAINST Index.YU
AGAINST boycotting the national team
AGAINST Zdravko Mamic & Co.
lol Holiga being interviewed, is he some celebrity now ?
Job of the coach is to position the team/players in the best spot for them to succeed. After that it is up to the players.
So, did Strucnjak Stimac and Kum Kovac position the players to succeed?
@Slavonac, you said,
“even at the best amateur level when a coach makes questionable decisions and you lose, the entire changing room becomes disrupted and even divided.”
I was a bit of an anomaly I suppose as I never worried about coaching decisions good or bad, I just always played hard. I had to to stay on the team as my skill was limited (my coach used to call me Licka Bukva! :)). But, I can tell you we had a number of players on our team who would sulk for various reasons which drove myself and a few others on our team nutty.
We would have won multiple Ontario Cups in our youth if not for the selfishness of our best players.
This is probably why I am so hard on the players in these kinds of situations. I do understand that tactics are critical, but ultimately it is the 11 guys on the field who decide the game through execution, desire, work rate, passion and cohesiveness.
@soul champ
unfortunately these players don’t give a damn, you will hear all the blame on the coach, savez etc, all smoke screen, rests with these players and they dont care
@ Svima
Older players are tired with demanding club schedules. Soccer takes a tole on your legs.
Couple that with BS organization behind them and things are stacked up for mediocrity.
YOUNG players are hungry to show there skills and bring a new energy to the team.
Yes they need to be integrated in an intelligent way but need to play a role none the less.
Pletikosa in Brazil was a travesty.
Srna in Norway was embarrassing to all involved.
We cannot afford to line up with tired old legs in the modern game.
Watching Vrsaljko running on the right flank is a revelation at RB. Have not seen that in damn near 10 years !
Čačić can bring a bit more tactical awareness and put our best players in the best positions to compete.
Modric looked great against Azerbajian as the captain.
Good news is will find out on the 10th if the players have any heart.
……just figured out he was the one answering the questions posed, not the one who actually wrote the article.
https://runningtheshowblog.wordpress.com/2015/01/15/a-look-at-the-croatian-talent-factory/
I could not believe who wrote this article.
I’m blaming Zlatan Ibrahimovic’s Mom for this mess. She failed him…and us.
So if we want to continue to call these players mental midgets and we can’t pick young players because they have to earn the right to play with the NT. That must mean that this team isn’t as good as some of us thought, maybe the team’s 4w and 2d start was simply the team overachieving. I think why some fans are having trouble now is they had high expectations, which I did aswell, but now I’m hoping we can pull the upset and beat Bulgaria and Malta, it ain’t gonna be easy.
@Slavonac, you said,
“even at the best amateur level when a coach makes questionable decisions and you lose, the entire changing room becomes disrupted and even divided.”
Your answer implies that a coach can make questionable decisions and the team can still win, which is the point I’m trying to make when I said we don’t need some tactical genius to beat Azerbaijan and Norway. You had some success in your career, did you ever win things while there was distractions in the locker room? Now and then it’s up to the players to step up and overcome distractions. Do you guys realise that if we don’t make Euros, Cacic might get sacked after two games!
I think he’s the type of guy that’s too proud to blame himself!
Speaking of tactical errors……do you think Kum Kovac is sitting at home and wonders where it all went wrong? Does he question his tactics in games or why his brother married a better looking women than he did.
Hammer, even at the best amateur level when a coach makes questionable decisions and you lose, the entire changing room becomes disrupted and even divided. If a coach starts or plays a guy that hasn’t done well or had been playing without any confidence vs someone that is, the entire team knows it. Also, when you lineup with a 3-5-2 or a 4-4-2 and the opponents are exposing you…there has to be adjustments.
watch the game vs Norway again and see the challenges we had transitioning from defense going forward, we had a huge gap and the passing lanes were closed down, they forced us to make poor decisions. This was a tactical error and wasn’t corrected. Of course the players know this and talk about it, it’s only natural!
Talk about statistics!
he only had 9 touches at that point and 5 were goals, lol
lewandoski, that fifth one is goal of the year
wow
Mandzukic ne može prstom volu u guzicu pogodit.
@Slavonac
“when your coach makes questionable tactical errors and player selections, did you and your peers know it and feel it?”
If you don’t mind, could you answer this question?
Funny thing about how fickle fans are, that if that clown mandzukic had scored just once or twice , and God knows my grandmother could have with all the chances he had., you would all be saying great job. ! It’s the fucking players! If we played like Mexicans we would have won a World Cup already, guaranteed. But I have a solution, we should get each player their own coach who they are happy with, then I guess they’ll want to play for their country and their people! I wonder why Italians always play hard for their country? Don’t they have more fucking corruption than was on the sopranos?? They have like a Mamic on every street corner , yet they still bleed for their flag! Jeba te mamic, cacic, kovac, stimac , modric , rakitic, isti kurac drugo pakovanje
So mamic is finally a problem for everyone? Welcome aboard.
NK was installed as the u21 coach purely as part of a long con, they knew Stimac would shit the bed somewhere a long the way, and installing Niko was an easy sell after the relative success Bilic had via a similar path.
Did NK have an independent streak? Maybe he did and and was too much of a dumbass to use it correctly or maybe he tried to conceal his being mamic’s bitch by doing moves that would make it seem like he was independent. Again any decisions he made were dumb, the point being he wasn’t fit for the position he held. No one can take away what he did as a player, but he was only there to serve mamic and was tyen the sacrificial lamb once the pressure mounted.
As for being lazy balkanci, i guess you wish the team was filled with dalmatinci then you could really go to town? Please, these are professionals who play in some of the biggest teams in Europe that have great staff who have tailor made training programs for the players based on their overall workload and susceptibility to injury and the like. He wasn’t going to make them any fitter in the days he had them, his priority should have been tactics but as we have seen he doesn’t have any tactical nous. Also you dont run the NT from salzburg, he should have been getting among the players and seeing how they operate at a club level and he would know fitness isn’t what he had to drill into them.
Now we can watch Cacic show Niko how a real bitch does it
Word Iggy!
We might be spiraling like a flushing toilet but I’ll NEVER root against us.
I hope to see a full Maksimir with everyone wearing moustaches in the near future!
Yea, but Mandžo did better statistically than Lewandowski at Bayern.
Tons of Uvijek Vjerni groups dissolving and kafici not wanting to show the repka play. Damn, once it hits the kafici, that’s pretty serious.
Mandza was in the perfect place with Bayern. But, Bayern made the right move with Lewandowski. He has more skill than Mandza, but Mandza has more of physical presence.
You bloody fairweather shitcunts.
Just because Cacic is now coach there is a whole bunch of you saying oh i dont care how we go now, or worse yet, i HOPE we lose every game.
Wtf is wrong with you whining, whinging cunts? Are you sure you arent pommy bastards with that whining?
You cunts are on and off the bandwagon easier than piss.
Nothing’s really changed. It’s the same ol same ol. We have an underqualified coach. Big deal.
I for one welcome our new moustache overlords and i also want a screenprinted shirt of Cacic’s MO if possible. He’ll be fine and we will win our qualifiers and get into euro and then we will make it to the QF of Euro so all you pissyfags with your knickers in a knot, just relax. What sort of fans are you?
Fucking piss on my piss !
Five goals for Lewandowski for Bayern Munich today against Wolfsburg….in 9 minutes.
Remember that Lewandowski – Mandzukic debate we had? With the way Mario has been playing as of late, how’s that looking right about now?
Agreed, Slavonac.
You know, being that the entire nogomet infrastructure in Croatia is run by Lupovi Inkorporiran, Kovac wasn’t the worst hiring ever. No experience, but hell, he was a former captain, respected, yada yada yada.
But when you start tossing your players under the bus, it’s obvious he lost the script. Will Cacic do better when it comes to this? Probably not. Will our nogomet continue to slide deeper into the shitter in the coming future? Pa…. apsolutno!
sude mi…you played sports at a high level…tell me, when your coach makes questionable tactical errors and player selections, did you and your peers know it and feel it?
its impossible to not acknowledge this key point. I was first to stand up for Kovac and didn’t listen to the Kum Kovac BS…but when I saw how we fell apart vs Mexico and then him blaming the players…I had a double take and noted it…then when we played Italy the second time, I saw we were dipping in our play and it all fell apart the last two games, especially vs Norway…we were lost with absolutely no way to correct the errors, thats on him as the coach.
@nepoznat
Doing drills right before a game or tournament is absolutely the WRONG thing to do.
Even weightlifters don’t lift for a week prior to any competitions (and, unlike soccer, working out us the main reason for their competition).
If a player is not already fully fit, then don’t play them. You won’t be able to get them into your definition of “tip top shape” in a few days.
Remember………take the emotion out of it.
Hiring an unqualified coach places the mental midgets we have playing for us in a position to laugh at him. And that is what took place.
I guess my fall-back is always that the players should ultimately take more of the blame in most situations….it is easy for us fans to look at the line-up and pool of players and most easily blame the guy in charge.
Yes, Kovac has messed up during his tenure but the reality is what did any of us really expect when a rookie coach was hired because, well we all know why….at the end of the day, I’d like some of these players to stand up and say we f_kced up. We have the talent to beat Azerbaijan and Norway but we did not and it is on us.
Asking too much no doubt in this day and age. I’m going to try and back off caring as much as previously stated. I’m having a hard time reconciling all the BS we hear about every day, with wanting CRO to succeed.
@ Sude Mi
That’s the way you chose to view him and good on you I guess for viewing it that way.
I have to view the whole picture though. Yes, Kovac had a great NT career as a player and captain. He did ok as our manager… won us some big games, but had 2 situations where he completely shit the bed. WC with Mexico and this 2 game run in the qualifiers. Neither should of happened.
I still have respect for NK – but my view is slightly skewed after his year tenure as trener.
Kinda similar example, but look at Suker. LEGENDARY player for us. One of our top players ever, not just post ’91. But look at his executive career, look at his hiring process, look at his reputation in the locker room as a player, look at him partnering up with the lupovi in the savez and driving the entire sport into the ground.
I’m suppose to look at him and say “well, ole’ Davor almost won us a WC if the ball bounced differently in 98 – good guy in my book!”. With all his “years of service to the repka as a player” and club career, I’ll look past the other stuff!
kurac,
sude mi…it depends on what you mean by crap on him?
some of us have criticized two things…his player selection and tactics…thats it…oh, I also said he was stubborn!
Nobody really cares what a picka like Darijo Srna thinks. Dude should’ve been retired years ago and should have never been team captain.
Kovac’s only fault is accepting a job he is unqualified for and for being Mamic’s peon (short-lived). To je sve.
Notwithstanding how Kovac got the job, I have to disagree that one could not show respect for the guy. Frankly, I find it sad that this group of players felt compelled to not play for him. In my view his biggest downfall was calling out the players publicly. HUGE no-no….crap all over them behind closed doors, but never call them out to the media.
He had an excellent professional club career, not to mention the fact he was exemplary as the heart and soul of the repka.
You guys can crap all over the guy now if you want (easy in hindsight isn’t it?), but I for one will not given his years of service for the repka as a player.
Somewhere in that Cacic mustache is a Milo Hrnic mustache waiting to explode.
For a former captian, it sure appears Kum Kovac never had the respect of the players.
And why?????? Tough to get any players to respect you as a coach when the only reason you were hired is due to a family connection. Shit, I would respect my boss if they were hired based on nepotism.
Noithing wrong in wanting to take it easy for a few days away from club committments and with the repka. Last I checked, the repka wasn’t paying them a salary.
yeah because they are lazy shit heads who want the international break to be a holiday/vacation for them instead of working hard and maybe accomplishing something and putting Croatia back on the footballing map!
but according to the info, the players mentioned all the testing and drills that took its toll on them…thats what they were talking about…Kovac’s testing and drills after they were training with their own clubs.
well if anything it’s the clubs that overwork them then!
the NT barely gets together a handful of times a year, and that’s the only chance to practice / drill so I don’t blame Niko for wanting/needing to take most advantage of what little time he has with them
and then on the plus side for the WC in Qatar won’t be at the end of a long club season LOL
nepoznat…I am similar to you and kinda agree but if you recall, Kovac went a bit overboard prior to arriving to Brazil…several players got injuries and complained of heavy legs and being over worked, right after a long season. there is a balance for everything.
Kovac said he wanted a team that could cover the entire field, a team that averages more than 10-11 km’s per game…ok, good idea…but you can’t kill players without understanding the line between getting injured and pushing them to their limits.
rest and relaxation are just as important as hard work, the body needs time to recover and most professionals involved in physical fitness, do know this.
this Hilter video is way overdone at this point in the internetz life but in this case it fits:
https://www.facebook.com/sportskatv.net/videos/850223495085836/
Colin it’s called a coincidence 😉
If this doesn’t prove that Mamic still has his hands in Lokomotiva’s pocket, I don’t know what does. How predictable. Sreten Cuk with the promotion…
http://nklokomotiva.hr/vijest/sreten-cuk-novi-trener-nk-lokomotive-60
@maminjo you make some good points, however let’s not forget we’re not Argentina or Germany and by the looks of our form from June on clearly we need more training and time together as we look severely disjointed… even the blowout in March was not perfect
I want these guys to live & die for the NT like we all do… I get the family and R&R and stuff is important, but there is time for all that after your career is over, as long or short as that may be it’s a minor piece of one’s life as a whole. If they felt the same honor & pride of wearing the checkers that the 96 & 98 squads felt then they would put in the effort & time required to get to the stop. Instead these clowns are content to draw to a terrible Italia team twice and lose to freaking Norway, etc… and then call out the coach because you don’t want to actually have to put in some work! the balls!!
Maminjo…two days in a row you make an excellent comment, you’re on a roll!
the thing about Kovac that surprised me was when he chose Sammir, I felt it was a necessary evil…but then he did things that puzzled me, like insist on Pranjic playing, force Rakitic and Modric to smother each other, left a massive gap between his defense and attackers vs Norway and didn’t bother correcting the issue.
he then sheepishly called out players and from what we know, he did little to create a good environment, he came across as overly confident and always said his decisions were good and concrete.
he is now gone and although this new coach is a very controversial decision, he’s not at fault for being chosen, if he loves the game and country, hopefully he does his best to offer us all something good on the field!
I call it, people will start sucking cacic off as soon as he gets a couple of wins. Ima previše neznalica na ovoj stranici.
lol google chrome translated @majstore to @masters automatically on my browser, sorry for the strange reply
No I wouldn’t want to play at maximir either. Especially when it’s “sold out”. They get booed in Croatia and then go play in Norway and Azerbaijan in front of a full stadium. I wouldn’t want to play either. Fuck that. If I was the players I’d lose on purpose
@majstore & nepoznat
Lots of coaches do this at the international level.
Argentina almost won the World Cup with a coach that employed this same, more relaxed atmosphere. Also, I doubt that Joaquin Lowe is a hard ass disciplinarian with his German National Team players, despite being a “disciplined German”.
It takes a certain type of coach to be able to pull off the disciplinarian style without being tuned out.
First, and foremost, you can’t pull this off with older professional veteran players, if you yourself are completely inexperienced and have done nothing at the international level. This was Kovač’s biggest problem.
He may have been able to pull this off with the junior NT where everyone is 20 years younger than him and inexperienced themselves, but not with veteran players that have been coached by the best in the world.
Add this to the fact that he was arrogant, played favourites, was not very smart or talented, and you have a recipe for disaster.
And now this… Dinamo “knew” all about the Mamic stealing from them, and won’t pursue getting back the money they are owed:
http://gol.dnevnik.hr/clanak/nogomet/iz-dinama-porucili-nece-se-traziti-obestecenje-od-brace-mamic—409548.html
this is getting more ridiculous by the hour
@masters I’m starting to think Niko really got shafted and this is more on the players than the Izbornik!
Halilovic deserved a call.
I would even star him based on his play with Gijon.
Lazy balkanci, not surprising!
Makes sense, they care more about coming to relax and hang with buddies & family then they do to put in a good showing for the checkers.
You’ve got to be fucking kidding me:
http://gol.dnevnik.hr/clanak/nogomet/ciro-uzasnut-stimac-zabrinut-leko-ga-hvali-a-srna-ne-zeli-komentirati—409490.html%5B/url%5D
Jerko Leko:
Čačića dobro poznaje Jerko Leko, kojega je trenirao u Dinamu, Lokomotivi i Sesvetama. Kaže da je Čačićeva prednost pred Kovačem bolji sluh za potrebe igrača, kojima je smetao Kovačev žestoki dril.
„Kad dođeš u Hrvatsku, ponosan si jer igraš za svoju zemlju. Ali dođeš se i odmoriti dva-tri dana od klupskih obveza, malo relaksirati, a onda ide priprema za utakmicu. Mislim da je Čačić toga svjestan. Možda je Kovač tu griješio, prema priči koju sam dobio od igrača, možda je bilo previše drila, testova, po meni nepotrebnih za taj dio natjecanja, tih tjedan dan što je on s njima“, kaže Leko.
@mustache I wouldn’t care if we won the euros.
this is for Ziva who may not have embraced Facebook yet and therefore not seen this floating around:
https://scontent-lga1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlp1/v/t1.0-9/12004696_747107955415684_572521253761960112_n.jpg?oh=dd759e1ab1c518d50b7f3a2381904a4c&oe=569EEE8D
Don’t be so quick to judge. For all you know Čačić is the mastermind that will finally lead us to glory.
remember guys….
#budiponosan
#beproud
they really need to let go of that motto…. makes me want to vomit now
Based on his experience, I’d say no.
But, as we have watched, anything is possible in sports. We saw Greece win a Euro.
But, there is nothing in Cacic’s background to suggest he is the man.
Cacic will bring us further then we’ve ever been!
Very excited for the future!
This migrant herd is a joke. Why doesn’t Croatia stand up and seal her borders.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2015/sep/22/refugee-crisis-eu-ministers-to-discuss-binding-quotas-live-updates
I see the same thing happening that took place when Kum Kovac was hired………We do enough to qualify and then shit the bed when it matters.
Mark my words, here’s what’s going to happen. We’re going to win the next few games and people will jump on cacics nuts. Fuck I hope we lose every game.
It’s not about not being able to bring talent together. It’s about wanting to play. I would t want to play either in an empty stadium and constantly being booed. It’s mamics fault. The players said fuck it a long time ago.
Halilovic notably left off??????? I wouldn’t go that far.
The kid is finally getting consistent minutes. We don’t need him for these two qualifiers. Let him play with the youth national team and with his club side. Just left him play and once he plays and produces, which we all think he will, then bring him up to the repka. The repka has enough sranje around it right now, last thing it needs is another questionable decision about calling up a player who doesn’t deserve the call up. He know is geeting minutes, lets get a good sample size and go from there.
I also see no Rebic, which is not a surprise. Unless you have experience and previous results, tough to bring up a kid who doesn’t play. He gets on the field and just flies around, which is the problem with him, he has no tactical awareness.