This guy wallace knows what he’s talkin about.
The white man is on the decline, we are a endangered species. Open your eyes, thats not so had to figure nigga.
You might not remember what I wrote but you will always remember the name Ante B. I don’t have to fill out a Hrvat application from the one, the only Ziva Istina, even he would vouch for that. Some of us were Croatians before 1991…it’s usually the ones who get defensive about it that are most likely part of the Class of 91…or those who say outrageous things like “the vast majority of Croats didn’t know about rukomet before.” U ime Oca…
In regards to your earlier statement about the majority of Croatians not knowing their history: Is this the same vast majority that you claim didn’t know a lot about rukomet either?
It is pretty obvious da nemas pojma, stari. Continue writing about the plight of the white man and the other mindless as well as useless proljev you drabble on about ad naseum.
Leave the real topics to us big boys who actually know what we’re talking about when it deals with contemporary Croatian society and sports.
Bog i Hrvati
Za Dom Spremni
-Ante B.
($10,000 says he went on google translate to see what I just wrote)
Triple U-the bathroom attendant who wants my money at the club after I use the john. Really? I’m supposed to give you money for soap and a paper towel?
@Wallace……no, me and Kardinal Stepinac are judge and jury of who is a hrvat and who is not. For those applying to be a hrvat send your applications to ziva_istina@ymail.com
@Ziva, as I’ve written before, language does not a nation make. The original Croats (and the Original Serbs for that matter) didn’t even speak the language that is today called the Serbo-Croatian language. And I guarantee, just like in all countries (including White countries), the vast majority of the population in Croatia doesn’t know that much about Croatian history. Who made you judge on who’s Croatian and who’s not? God is the judge of who has Croatain blood and who doesn’t, no?
I meant it as a figure of speech, but here goes anyway….Here is how those in the diaspora became hrvati (or never were) in recent years…..They have no clue about the history or culture of the croatian people. They know something about croatian sports, which is more than anything else hrvatstvo and somehow think that makes them croatian because they root for the sahovnica. They are unable to speak or write the language.
@Ivica….actually players like Giricek, Planinic, Sesar did show much promise in the junior ranks. They produced. Now we all know that performing in the junior ranks does not equal success at the senior level. I think Planinic and Giricek succeeded at the professional level. They have made millions. They are not superstars or team leaders, but they made their money. As for Saric, the sooner he moves away from croatia and starts playing for a non-croatian club team, the better for him. And for his sake, hopefully his father is far removed. His talent will get him drafted as a top 5 pick in the NBA, but after that is a question mark.
What’s that about? Talk to me buddy, what have I written on this site that makes you hate me? Because I don’t know you from a hole in the wall, and I can’t think of one thing I remember reading from you.
Ziva: “Maybe some of you in the diaspora who became hrvati only a few years ago think rukomet is a new sport or some recent fad by our fans.”
How does one become Hrvati only a few years ago? I was born with full Croatian blood in the United States. So a Chinaman who has a piece of paper that states he’s a Croatian citizen who’s a big team handball fan in Croatia is your brother, huh?
Mula, Giricek, and Planinic have individually shown nothing in the junior squads. Croatia has many times fielded some decent junior teams, and the highest scorers of each of these teams are instantly credited as up-and-coming stars by lazy journalists who don’t watch the games (remember Euro MVP Mario Delas a few years ago?)
But Dario Saric is breaking junior team records. He has (hands-down) been the MVP of every tournament he’s played in. He played in the NIJT and killed it (winning the MVP). The only time he hasn’t been an MVP is when he played in the U-19s (where he was over two years younger than everyone else) yet he still was a top-3 player in the tournament with comparable stats to this past year’s 5th overall NBA draft pick Jonas Valanciunas. He also made an appearance for the World Team last year in the Nike Hoop Summit where he played with some current NBAers (7th pick Bismack Biyombo) and against some future NBA stars (2012 lotto prospects Gilchrist, Lamb, Davis, Rivers, etc). Mind you, he had just turned 17 and was over two years younger than the rest of the players there..and still impressed.
Guys like Giricek would be lucky to watch these tournaments from the stands.
@Ivica………..outside of the early and mid-90s, Croatia has not really accomplished much in basketball on the senior level. The Giricek/Planinic generation won the euro juniors title in 95 I believe and much was expected of them, but it never translated on the senior level.
Dario Saric is a great player in his age group right, that is for sure. But, the kid and his father are headcases. Just look at what is going on with him right now and the lack of minutes he has received this year. He and his old man sure know how to bitch.
We’ll see if I am proven wrong down the road on this one, but I will be surprised if he develops into the best European player by the time he is 21.
Ivica, I want to believe you about Croatian basketball but I cannot. Remember how Mulamerovic was supposed to be the new Drazen? Gordan Giricek? Zoran Planinic? The last big resurgence that I can remember post Drazen happened during that tournament in Beograd (I think 2008?) where we were doing great and then played Spain in the infamous game where we lost solely because of the refs. Even the calm coach, Spahija, lost his temper…something that never happened.
Croatia is about to have a resurgence in basketball again.
If the number one prospect in Europe, Dario Saric, continues to improve the way he has been and break records the way he has been, we’ll have a centerpeice to build our team around for the next 15 years. Couple him with Mario Hezonja, and all this team will need are some solid role players (which we’ve always been able to produce) to become perennial medal contenders.
Per capital, Croats are the most talented basketball players in the world. It’s remarkable how few people actually even play the sport in Cro, yet we continue to put together above average teams. I’ve got cousins in Cro who are over 6’6″ (with one being 6’8″) who have never dribbled a basketball and are always just wasting time playing soccer!
You’ve got basketball-crazy countries that put in countless dollars into their programs that haven’t even come close to what we’ve accomplished in our short history.
Dario and Mario could be a very good tandem for Cro. It will generate a lot of interest in the sport again, and hopefully the freakish Dalmatinski youth start to play basketball once again and keep us up there in the sport, the way we were meant to be.
Maybe some of you in the diaspora who became hrvati only a few years ago think rukomet is a new sport or some recent fad by our fans. It is not. Croatia has a long and proud history in the sport going back into the Yugo days.
I would agree with the list Ante put together and possibly add F1 in the top 5. There is no croatian driver, but F1 races in Cro get good Tv numbers.
Since we no longer have any top 10 players in tennis, the popularity went down.
When it comes to handball and you thinking it was never a big sport in Croatia, you’re out of it; rukomet has always been huge. Look at Badel 1862 Zagreb, now RK Zagreb. Before the biggest derby in Croatia was RK Zagreb vs Metkovic but of course due to financial turmoil, Metkovic couldn’t compete with Badel and went under. RK Zagreb were European champs twice and three time runner ups. I would say that it’s us Hrvati in the North American diaspora who really didn’t have an idea about this sport before 2003, not the ones in the Domovina.
Ante B’s list of popular sports in Croatia:
1. Nogomet
(everything else, in no particular order)
2. Rukomet
3. Vaterpolo
4. Kosarka – if Drazen was alive, I firmly believe we’d care more about it but Croatian basketball died with him on that day.
5. Zimski sportovi (skijanje in particular, hokej aka Medvescak is the new “in” thing. Hell, even dalmatinci root for them!)
@Harrison, haha, I bet most Croats in Croatia had no idea about this sport not too long ago. I watched it a few times in the Olympics and it’s an interesting sport to watch, especially if you have a rooting interest (i.e. Croatian NT).
Waterpolo has to be one of the toughest (in every sense of the word) team sports there is.
Can anyone who knows give a list of the 5 most popular sports in Croatia in order? Obviously, soccer is #1.
how awesome would it be for Cro to win in Belgrade against the Serbs in the Final? That would leave a nice little stain on the greatest day in Serbian Sports History.
Getting to play srbs at their home for the championship and winning with bbb and supporters would be priceless. Losing that would be a fucking disaster.
Why do you love to talk about the serbs all the sudden, and no ur not just being sarcastic you enjoy it, this is croatian sports report, go to a serbian side if you want to cheer ’em on!
I’ve been following for rukomet since the late 90’s and this definitely isn’t the best team I’ve seen but I think we can definitely go for the gold. Then again, France hasn’t look this bad in a while either. We need to incorporate more of our wingers and attack more instead of trying to dish the ball off to Vori or Lackovic all the time.
Hope we make it to the finals in BG, beat Serbia and take the gold.
Really good win, dominating second half helped by France basically giving up with 10 minutes to go. If Spain loses tomorrow against Slovenia, Croatia have a chance to win the group. If Spain win, I expect Croatia to rest their starters against Hungary which means more than likely a matchup against Serbia in the semi’s…oh boy
50/50 chance now that we get the serbs on Friday in the semis which will be a very interesting Friday night in BG.
On a side note and since all hate all things Serbian. This Sunday could be the greatest day in Serbian sports history. Djokovic looks to be well on his way to winning the Aussie Open. The serb water polo team should win the gold at European Championships and their handball team will be in good shape playing in front of 19,000 at the BG arena and will get the benefit of some home cooking with the refs.
This guy wallace knows what he’s talkin about.
The white man is on the decline, we are a endangered species. Open your eyes, thats not so had to figure nigga.
@ Wallace,
You might not remember what I wrote but you will always remember the name Ante B. I don’t have to fill out a Hrvat application from the one, the only Ziva Istina, even he would vouch for that. Some of us were Croatians before 1991…it’s usually the ones who get defensive about it that are most likely part of the Class of 91…or those who say outrageous things like “the vast majority of Croats didn’t know about rukomet before.” U ime Oca…
In regards to your earlier statement about the majority of Croatians not knowing their history: Is this the same vast majority that you claim didn’t know a lot about rukomet either?
It is pretty obvious da nemas pojma, stari. Continue writing about the plight of the white man and the other mindless as well as useless proljev you drabble on about ad naseum.
Leave the real topics to us big boys who actually know what we’re talking about when it deals with contemporary Croatian society and sports.
Bog i Hrvati
Za Dom Spremni
-Ante B.
($10,000 says he went on google translate to see what I just wrote)
Triple U-the bathroom attendant who wants my money at the club after I use the john. Really? I’m supposed to give you money for soap and a paper towel?
Out.
@Wallace……no, me and Kardinal Stepinac are judge and jury of who is a hrvat and who is not. For those applying to be a hrvat send your applications to ziva_istina@ymail.com
The definition of a croat: is someone with croatian blood.
@Ziva, as I’ve written before, language does not a nation make. The original Croats (and the Original Serbs for that matter) didn’t even speak the language that is today called the Serbo-Croatian language. And I guarantee, just like in all countries (including White countries), the vast majority of the population in Croatia doesn’t know that much about Croatian history. Who made you judge on who’s Croatian and who’s not? God is the judge of who has Croatain blood and who doesn’t, no?
I meant it as a figure of speech, but here goes anyway….Here is how those in the diaspora became hrvati (or never were) in recent years…..They have no clue about the history or culture of the croatian people. They know something about croatian sports, which is more than anything else hrvatstvo and somehow think that makes them croatian because they root for the sahovnica. They are unable to speak or write the language.
@Ivica….actually players like Giricek, Planinic, Sesar did show much promise in the junior ranks. They produced. Now we all know that performing in the junior ranks does not equal success at the senior level. I think Planinic and Giricek succeeded at the professional level. They have made millions. They are not superstars or team leaders, but they made their money. As for Saric, the sooner he moves away from croatia and starts playing for a non-croatian club team, the better for him. And for his sake, hopefully his father is far removed. His talent will get him drafted as a top 5 pick in the NBA, but after that is a question mark.
Ante B. “Not a chance, no more insults.”
What’s that about? Talk to me buddy, what have I written on this site that makes you hate me? Because I don’t know you from a hole in the wall, and I can’t think of one thing I remember reading from you.
Ziva: “Maybe some of you in the diaspora who became hrvati only a few years ago think rukomet is a new sport or some recent fad by our fans.”
How does one become Hrvati only a few years ago? I was born with full Croatian blood in the United States. So a Chinaman who has a piece of paper that states he’s a Croatian citizen who’s a big team handball fan in Croatia is your brother, huh?
@ Ante B. & Ziva
Mula, Giricek, and Planinic have individually shown nothing in the junior squads. Croatia has many times fielded some decent junior teams, and the highest scorers of each of these teams are instantly credited as up-and-coming stars by lazy journalists who don’t watch the games (remember Euro MVP Mario Delas a few years ago?)
But Dario Saric is breaking junior team records. He has (hands-down) been the MVP of every tournament he’s played in. He played in the NIJT and killed it (winning the MVP). The only time he hasn’t been an MVP is when he played in the U-19s (where he was over two years younger than everyone else) yet he still was a top-3 player in the tournament with comparable stats to this past year’s 5th overall NBA draft pick Jonas Valanciunas. He also made an appearance for the World Team last year in the Nike Hoop Summit where he played with some current NBAers (7th pick Bismack Biyombo) and against some future NBA stars (2012 lotto prospects Gilchrist, Lamb, Davis, Rivers, etc). Mind you, he had just turned 17 and was over two years younger than the rest of the players there..and still impressed.
Guys like Giricek would be lucky to watch these tournaments from the stands.
@Ivica………..outside of the early and mid-90s, Croatia has not really accomplished much in basketball on the senior level. The Giricek/Planinic generation won the euro juniors title in 95 I believe and much was expected of them, but it never translated on the senior level.
Dario Saric is a great player in his age group right, that is for sure. But, the kid and his father are headcases. Just look at what is going on with him right now and the lack of minutes he has received this year. He and his old man sure know how to bitch.
We’ll see if I am proven wrong down the road on this one, but I will be surprised if he develops into the best European player by the time he is 21.
Not a chance, no more insults.
So Ante B is Wallace?
Ivica, I want to believe you about Croatian basketball but I cannot. Remember how Mulamerovic was supposed to be the new Drazen? Gordan Giricek? Zoran Planinic? The last big resurgence that I can remember post Drazen happened during that tournament in Beograd (I think 2008?) where we were doing great and then played Spain in the infamous game where we lost solely because of the refs. Even the calm coach, Spahija, lost his temper…something that never happened.
I hope you’re right but I doubt it.
Croatia is about to have a resurgence in basketball again.
If the number one prospect in Europe, Dario Saric, continues to improve the way he has been and break records the way he has been, we’ll have a centerpeice to build our team around for the next 15 years. Couple him with Mario Hezonja, and all this team will need are some solid role players (which we’ve always been able to produce) to become perennial medal contenders.
Per capital, Croats are the most talented basketball players in the world. It’s remarkable how few people actually even play the sport in Cro, yet we continue to put together above average teams. I’ve got cousins in Cro who are over 6’6″ (with one being 6’8″) who have never dribbled a basketball and are always just wasting time playing soccer!
You’ve got basketball-crazy countries that put in countless dollars into their programs that haven’t even come close to what we’ve accomplished in our short history.
Dario and Mario could be a very good tandem for Cro. It will generate a lot of interest in the sport again, and hopefully the freakish Dalmatinski youth start to play basketball once again and keep us up there in the sport, the way we were meant to be.
They’re building an F-1 racetrack in Cro.
Maybe some of you in the diaspora who became hrvati only a few years ago think rukomet is a new sport or some recent fad by our fans. It is not. Croatia has a long and proud history in the sport going back into the Yugo days.
I would agree with the list Ante put together and possibly add F1 in the top 5. There is no croatian driver, but F1 races in Cro get good Tv numbers.
Since we no longer have any top 10 players in tennis, the popularity went down.
ps. one correction: I had previously thought Metkovic went down to financial reasons. It did not. They are still around.
^^That was me. That damn name tab…my newest enemy.
Signed,
Ante B.
When it comes to handball and you thinking it was never a big sport in Croatia, you’re out of it; rukomet has always been huge. Look at Badel 1862 Zagreb, now RK Zagreb. Before the biggest derby in Croatia was RK Zagreb vs Metkovic but of course due to financial turmoil, Metkovic couldn’t compete with Badel and went under. RK Zagreb were European champs twice and three time runner ups. I would say that it’s us Hrvati in the North American diaspora who really didn’t have an idea about this sport before 2003, not the ones in the Domovina.
Ante B’s list of popular sports in Croatia:
1. Nogomet
(everything else, in no particular order)
2. Rukomet
3. Vaterpolo
4. Kosarka – if Drazen was alive, I firmly believe we’d care more about it but Croatian basketball died with him on that day.
5. Zimski sportovi (skijanje in particular, hokej aka Medvescak is the new “in” thing. Hell, even dalmatinci root for them!)
@Harrison, haha, I bet most Croats in Croatia had no idea about this sport not too long ago. I watched it a few times in the Olympics and it’s an interesting sport to watch, especially if you have a rooting interest (i.e. Croatian NT).
Waterpolo has to be one of the toughest (in every sense of the word) team sports there is.
Can anyone who knows give a list of the 5 most popular sports in Croatia in order? Obviously, soccer is #1.
@Harrison….just because you don’t like it, doesn’t mean its not a worthy sport.
End-to-end action, plenty of goals, what is not to like?
@Ivica…..if we were somehow to beat them in BG, it would become one of the worst days for them.
Handball is the second biggest sport to nogomet. I give a shit.
Who gives a shit about handball and waterpollo, let the serbs have it.
@Ziva
how awesome would it be for Cro to win in Belgrade against the Serbs in the Final? That would leave a nice little stain on the greatest day in Serbian Sports History.
@anonymous………because I have yet to find serbiansportsreport.com
I’m not cheering them on and I never said I love to talk about serbs, just pointing out that Sunday could be the greatest day in serb sports history.
Getting to play srbs at their home for the championship and winning with bbb and supporters would be priceless. Losing that would be a fucking disaster.
@Ziva,
Why do you love to talk about the serbs all the sudden, and no ur not just being sarcastic you enjoy it, this is croatian sports report, go to a serbian side if you want to cheer ’em on!
First the Turkey curse in soccer, now the France curse in Handball. Not bad.
(beat Serbia in the semis, all apologies)
I’ve been following for rukomet since the late 90’s and this definitely isn’t the best team I’ve seen but I think we can definitely go for the gold. Then again, France hasn’t look this bad in a while either. We need to incorporate more of our wingers and attack more instead of trying to dish the ball off to Vori or Lackovic all the time.
Hope we make it to the finals in BG, beat Serbia and take the gold.
Thank God the curse is broken.
Good job guys.
Really good win, dominating second half helped by France basically giving up with 10 minutes to go. If Spain loses tomorrow against Slovenia, Croatia have a chance to win the group. If Spain win, I expect Croatia to rest their starters against Hungary which means more than likely a matchup against Serbia in the semi’s…oh boy
Nice to see the “mi hrvati” chant in a serb city.
50/50 chance now that we get the serbs on Friday in the semis which will be a very interesting Friday night in BG.
On a side note and since all hate all things Serbian. This Sunday could be the greatest day in Serbian sports history. Djokovic looks to be well on his way to winning the Aussie Open. The serb water polo team should win the gold at European Championships and their handball team will be in good shape playing in front of 19,000 at the BG arena and will get the benefit of some home cooking with the refs.