Calling CroatianSports.com nation!
Your favorite quasi-journalist (yours truly) will be flying into Bordeaux Monday morning and want to get the crew together. If you’re going to be in Bordeaux for the Croatia-Spain match, whether or not you’re going to the game, please send me an email at Ante@CroatianSports.com.
I’m already aware of some of my California Croatians flying out this week for the rest of the tournament but I would love for us to all meet. Contact me so we can have a drink and talk about the current state of Croatian soccer. As if that’s not a hot topic these days…
UEFA decision postponed until tomorrow:
http://gol.dnevnik.hr/clanak/euro-2016/uefa-ina-kazna-hrvatskoj-posljednja-opomena-pred-katastrofu—440835.html
Za Koku!
Skore ste Perisicu skinili glavu jeben vam pizda…
Ide Ivane, zabi jos dva protiv espainja…
UEFA is corrupt.
Mamic is corrupt.
The hooligans are corrupt.
The players just want to play football, but will get punished.
That makes sense, I can live with that!
Uefa are expected to give them a suspended disqualification – meaning they will be kicked out of Euro 2016 if there is more trouble.
One Croatia fan who smuggled a flare into the arena was arrested and will be brought before a judge next week.
Sorry if I can’t get to all of your questions at once. If I missed one, let me know.
False. It would fall under defamation of character. That’s what one of the guys has already started. Rest assured, if KTVU did that to me, they’d be paying me handsomely.
I do not think they were set up as diversion. From my understanding, they were screaming at the cops to come up into the stands and to take action. Also those guys were visiting the hometown of the Jean Michel Nicolier. They don’t scream huligani to me. As for looking like hooligans, they were shirtless. The horror. I wish I could do that without looking a frozen Foster Farms chicken. I don’t think the front row guys looked like huligani at all and that’s my issue. If those guys were your friends, family or acquaintances, you’d think the same. The ones behind them, absolutely. They’re the ones we should be looking for and identifying properly.
That being said, I haven’t switched sides as Maminjo referred to. It was still the wrong thing to do especially after Split.
All things considered, ESPN is now talking about it and the word is out. They’ve been doing an amazing job.
Jarac, so true. Even in lawsuit happy USA, posting a picture of a person of interest would never be justification for a lawsuit.
Lebron flops as much as the worst divers in football!
Always cryin about something too.
by the way ante B. the hooligan part wasnt directed at you, the lawsuit part 😉
@Ante b.
Come on, lawsuits in croatia, haha nothing will come of that. Most hooligans area a bunch of punk ass little fucks involved in petty crime and drugs. There not good people. Same as hanging around ghetto ass punks in the US. So, if your a real supporter of hooligans, you probably a punk yourself.
And Lebron played liked a beast. It was a 7th game at the end of long season. How vey different to the football wimps who were too tired to perform in the champions league final.
Only reason that penalty wont be worse is because Suker and Boban are involved with Fifa.
Zvonimir Boban been announced as the newest member of FIFA. Boban, the legendary former Croatia and AC Milan midfielder, has been appointed as special advisor on football matters.
Russia cannot be penalized for the WorldCup because they are hosting it and automatically qualify as the host nation.
Croatia will be hit with another point deduction for the world cup. -3 to -6. Also all their home games will be played behind closed doors.
Do not be surprised if club teams are also banned from playing in Europe.
Poglavnice,
Amen. Long live the 95-96 Bulls team. STILL THE GREATEST. I’ll get back to the other questions, I promise.
@Peter North
“The same fans that burned LeBron jerseys when he went to Miami will all collectively line up to wax his knob”
So true!
Let the riots begin. Maybe they’ll ban Cleveland because of what their fans are going to do to night?
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Congrats to the fine people from the “mistake on the lake.”
You can now die happy!
Golden State with the big choke..haha. The same fans that burned LeBron jerseys when he went to Miami will all collectively line up to wax his knob as he brings a Championship to the sorry ass city of Cleveland. Got to live sports.
Not a Lebron fan but very happy for the Bulls of ’96.
And STILL the greatest team ever!
Think bout this scenario
Nothing happens till like semi finals God willing we make it and then they do a crazy one
Wtf does Uefa do now
It ain’t gonna be easy but u have to think the other teams saw how we have been playing and saying oh shit
I bet no one is looking at us as a third place team saying oh shit hope we get cro
As much as we can be intimidated others can be of us as well
Not to pass judgement, but the warnings before the match mentioned a disruption and pitch invasion. If the guys in the front are found guilty it will probably because they were planning to make the pitch invasion part of the protest. The police had started to gather in front of the stands at that point in the match, so if they planned to go on the pitch it would fit that they scrapped that plan and moved back to assist their cohorts.
Also Horvat I have no faith in French security.
It’s basically an oxymoron.
They know how to run their mouths and revolt but I’m sorry they’re a nation of blase pussies.
That’s true.
If a hooligan tries something in the Spain game, it will be a mess.
Cro fans are gonna lose it on them. Hopefully nobody gets killed.
@Iggy
You’d think that makes sense, but difference being Russia have the richest and shadiest man in the world in Putin and they’ve already pretty much bought the right to host the next World Cup.
@Horvat
I have faith in our fellow fans to dole out some vigilante style justice if this shit even comes close to happening again.
In Saint Etienne are fans were caught off guard by those assholes. Now they’ll be on their toes and ready to throw down. I know I would be anyway. I’d have my eyes on my section as much as the game itself this Tuesday.
Yeah, those front row guys looked super innocent.
You don’t think they had guys placed at tactical locations to help cut off or interfere with police (or other) intervention avenues of approach, or to help keep escape routes open? These guys may be stupid, but aren’t that dumb either. Raid/ambush tactics 101.
The pro hooliganers have been clouding the issue by dropping random names in the comments section of these sites and forwarding false info in an attempt to create confusion.
To answer your question Ante, if someone I knew was in a situation where a crime was committed and they fit the profile and were wrongly arrested, then of course I would want them to be immediately freed.
However, this does not make me right.
If they’re a suspect, they are taken in. If they are innocent, then they’ll be freed. These guys that are being called out are all wearing similar attire to the hooligans, are literally right next to the chaos, and are either fighting or goading officials. If one of these ppl on camera were one of my cousins wearing a hoodie with shades, I wouldn’t know what to think.
No, I don’t follow your latter method of investigating and getting my facts from meme’s. Three of the guys in the picture are in the front row when it happened despite the event happening 15 rows behind them and two other guys went on TV today and plan to sue everybody rightfully so. Plus I have a my own personal sources since that card is pulled all the time here. I don’t consider logic “heresay”
How do you know they were incorrectly identified?
Because they said so on Facebook or other hearsay?
Maminjo,
I didn’t ask that question. Don’t know why you think I did? The question I asked before was left unanswered for some reason. They were regarding the incorrect people who were identified and how you think that equates to supporting hooliganism.
I know why Mamic hasn’t been personally attacked. He travels at least 6 or 7 deep of his own personal security like Biff from Back to the Future II. You can’t get to him.
Good comment there maminjo
On UEFA, I agree (and hope) that we will not be docked any points, but it’s possible that we’ll receive a delayed suspension or whatever it’s called that they handed the Russians. This could be bad, because we would be reliant on French security to stop anything these morons have planned for future matches. I really think the international media has brought attention to the fact that these are not “fans behaving badly” and for that they should be commended. Even here in the US, ESPN is all over it and reporting the facts correctly.
On Modric, assuming the injury is not bad, it may be a blessing in disguise for him to sit out against Spain. Whoever wins this thing has to play 7 matches in about 28 days and for guys who are the wrong side of 30, that’s a lot. Playing 5-6 games is much better. Also, this will force the team to play without him and may get some of the other guys to step up a bit. It’s one thing to know he’s unavailable from the start and another losing him to injury in the 60th minute. Spain has been the best team so far and the bookies now call them the favorite, so it will be a good test for us since we may see them again if we expect to go far.
If this shit happens again against Spain, then I think they should fucking stop the tournament for everyone, because obviously uefa, and French security is an absolute fucking joke. How anyone can blame Hns or the Croatian team for any of this now, is fucking mind boggling. There is no way on this earth there should be any flares or anything in the stadiums. With all the technology and everything, it is inexcusable! Enough
Grab one of these holigans, knife him and let him bleed out like a stuck pig in the centre of town.
Everyone knows these guys are planning on doing the same thing next game.
If the French authorities and security don’t take drastic measures to prevent these terrorists from getting in, they should be penalized and fined.
You all should get a good laugh with this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dh-X5u1cLQ
@ Slavonac. From one Slavonac from Canada to another bang on! My fear is something really serious happens on Tuesday that puts shame on us all, let alone HNS.
@slavonac
Had to laugh that idiotic line preached by one on here. “Short term pain for long term gain”. You want to talk about corruption. Look at the Italians but when it comes to a tourney they rally around the team. Mind blowing that people would sabotage and not support our team. Sad.
We aren’t going to lose any points. Consider what Russian fans did against england in that match, they stormed the supporter section of england and started an all-in brawl. If that isnt enough to lose points, nothing is and there’s no way we can be punished for a few flares when Russia got no punishment in comparison. It would be total bs.
That being said, im fearful of the next game and what could happen again.. are they really gonna try stop the match in the first half? I’m going to puke with how sick these cunts are making me. Absolutely disgusting.
As for the team, i still have faith despite concedling those goals – the actual positive approach is there and there is the talent to make it happen. I would prefer avoid Belgium in next round but i guess beggars can’t be choosers at this point.
@Ante B
Not at all.
If you have a serious problem with someone, then face them. If you are going to resort to doing something illegal (because the legal means are not working) you make sure that it impacts only that person you have this serious problem with.
Problem is, these hooligans are pussies. They’re afraid to do something, so they do this little kid shit throwing flares on a football pitch and running.
Either that, or they just need a boogeyman to justify the chaos they want to do anyway because they are angry, unemployed, and living with their parents. If it isn’t Mamić then it will be someone else.
To answer your question, if they beat up Mamić, I wouldn’t care (because he deserves it). I actually believe ass kickings are effective. But for some odd reason, they won’t do it.
Instead they decide to damage our name, and in an incompetent fashion, strengthen Mamić’s position more than ever.
It’s really pathetic to consider a fan base that meddles so much that they’d sabotage a generation of good soccer players and the real fans that live for big tournaments like this! I’m appalled anyone could defend the indefensible and say short term pain for long term gain! These idiots are ruining Croatia’s image across the globe!
If Croatia gets booted you guys can focus on this
http://www.croatiaweek.com/voting-open-for-miss-croatia-abroad-in-national-folk-costume/
@ slavonac
Well said. They have their own agenda. This is something a few on here don’t understand.
@lazio
What do you expect from a Yugo?
“I would much rather sit down at a table with some Serbs than these morons.”
I’d rather be a hooligan than do that, and I don’t agree with what the hooligans are doing.
You’ve gone too far!
Hated but Rated!!
I’ve always said these hooligans are immature and destructive pricks while some here defended them!
I guess you got what you wanted!!!!
Never trust a hooligan, they don’t care about the game they have their own agenda!!!
Fucks!!!
Nobody should be cracking anyone over a sport. Get involved with local politics, it has been the way of civilized societies for centuries.
This team has played well and Cacic a good job. Unfortunately you have People who dont like that. Why didn’t these hooligans protest milanovic in the part. They seem to be so concerned around corruption. Amazing people on this site who continue to criticize this team and the savez.
Not the time or place for these “fans” to make their protests.
A whole generation of Croatian kids are watching these Euro’s and don’t need to see this garbage unfold in front of their eyes.
Its the time and place to unite behind our team and support them respectfully in front of the world.
maminjo thats what i have been thinking for a long time?
like does he live in some top security place with armed guard? im surprised he hasn’t been beaten or worse by now
If they did crack on him youd be the first to bitch about it.
These Hooligans and their supporters and sympathizers are truly pathetic. I would much rather sit down at a table with some Serbs than these morons. They think they are patriotic but in truth they are just morons. You want a Patriot, Its the old guy with the hat and Croatia pants. He bleeds Croatian pride as do the others who stood up to these thugs. One thing is for certain, the stands will be filmed very closely for the remaining Croatian games both by the authorities and by other fans.
These hooligans should be protesting in Croatia about the injustice of our government on ousting Orešković.
But if football is more important to them than that, fine, go beat up Mamić.
Not sure how Mamić can stroll throughout Zagreb unscathed. Why don’t these hooligans crack him one?
I don’t know shit about this Mamic guy, but is it possible that he has done some good?
The hooligans believe they’re doing good, so it’s reasonable to think that Mamic believes he’s doing a good job also.
I just can’t understand why hooligans would believe that fighting with fellow Croatians who just want to watch a football match is good.
Cacic is getting way too credit what I’m seeing is a group of experienced players being pretty much led by Modric playing inspired football. Cacic couldn’t even make some simple substitutions to capitalize on this.
This team deserves a better coach and not somebody who bullies a 19 old out of the squad at some thug’s behest. Cacic is pretty much a slight upgrade from Kovac and that’s just by having a less obnoxious personality but both depended on veteran players and as the tournament progresses Cacic like Kovac will be exposed. Clearly the corrupt savez is to blame for this.
Also Suker and Mamic well done on assembling this team.
Spain resting some good players.
I love that people are turning on these hooligans. Beautiful. The players, coaches and Savez need our support.
i think most will agree the hns is corrupt to the bone and somethign needs to be done… i see what they are trying to do but is this really going to work??
u know with all this crazyness… im surpised no one has ever tried to off mamic for real
but like others have said there will be a new replacement which might even be worse
lets face it, humans suck
but still im hoping for the best on tuesday
was talking to an albanian buddy of mine and he said that if turkey beat or tie czech albanians are in?
i guess we will know alot more with tomorrows games and rulings
what is the general concensus back home? will we lose points?
We believe that two wrongs will make a right!
If Mamic is corrupt, we will also become corrupt.
Mamic is our obsession!
The HNS is a corrupt non patriotic organization and it will go down in flames just like the Marxist EU.
Croats turning in Croats. Always the same story. I know how some of you feel you want to show your Italian friends look how good we are like they would ever care.
Hope their are buses at the next game.
It is a damn shame security has to focus on these idiots, rather than 100% focus on preventing more cynical terrorists. If some ISIS sympathizer blows up a section of the stadium, the hooligans need to realize they may have helped.
Maminjo,
That’s the difference. Let me ask you this. What if one of those incorrectly accused was your family or a close friend? What if these reports completely fucked them up? Would you be ok even if they’re…pseudo…as you put it? You wouldn’t. You’d be singing a different tune.
I’ll put it out in Front St. I thought what happened in Milan was an outcry and call to justice as they couldn’t do it by legal means. Then the idiotic swastika incident happened and they lost me. The flares against the Czechs solidified it. However the worst part in all of this is that neither violence, force, fines, legal methods won’t work and that innocent people all across the board have been affected negatively. I have my own way to end this crisis and it’s not that hard.
Spoken like true Yugo.
I would gladly throw all out hooligans under the bus!
When the Turks were beating on Crosts in Vienna in 2008 who fought back? People like you in your girl shoes and $100 polos fuck off!
The hooligans are in all the countries. They basically the last bastion of European masculinity. I would not have interrupted the game against Italy of the Czech one but I will not throw our hooligans under the bus. Za Dom!
The “wrongly accused” tactic is just a scheme to pour cold water on the positive momentum in getting something achieved.
A lot of the pro-huligan newspapers in Cro are employing it (guess which ones) in an attempt to just have this all fizzle out.
Fact of the matter is, in Croatia, you are innocent until proven guilty. Even when you’re guilty, you are likely to get off the hook.
Yes, there may be some that were wrongly named, and although they may be arrested, they will get off as there is no evidence on them.
The only positive thing we have right now is this outrage and pressure to do something about the hooligans. I don’t care if a few pseudo-innocent people are arrested when I know that they will be let go (along with the majority of the hooligans).
Arrest all those who showed up wearing their black and grey hooligan outfits and those that were goading the police officers all for questioning. A crime was committed and they are all suspects. There is nothing immoral or illegal in identifying these individuals.
Anyone who tries to slow down the momentum are just hooligan sympathizers who are secretly revelling on the chaos that is occurring.
TorontoCroatian,
Nice job using the UDBA tactics you were probably raised with. All Croatian here before 1991 who has been on the tribine plenty of times. I was raised in a democratic country where you’re innocent until proven guilty and not in your yugo way of thinking.
Spremni.
Man if there is another attack
It’s for sure done for us
They will win
Ugh lets hope police can thwart it
Anon,
You nailed it. Those BBB and Torcida bullshit is maybe cool for 16, 17 or 18-years olds. You make some noise, drink some beer while you actually not allowed to and make some trouble sometimes. But then you turn 18 and start your real life. The problem in Croatia is that we have pathetic retards in their 20s or 30s who still it’s cool to be a hooligan. And they keep causing problems. Nobody goes to football games anymore in Croatia because of those morons.
Treat them as terrorists, throw them in jail for years. Dismantle organizations as BBB or Torcida because it’s organized crime.
Those losers are fuckin’ morons and a disgrace to our country. Not only when Croatia plays but also when Dinamo Zagreb plays international games abroad.
Croatia should be know as a great country player with great football players. Not as a country with a bunch of retards.
getting late her in france and about to head out for festivities, so here’s a quick update of what i’ve heard
spoke with my friend on the team yesterday and here’s his input
1) As you can guess, the players are pretty pissed. At the end of the day, they really don’t need to be playing for the national team. They earn big money contracts from their clubs, and practically play for free and risk injury…it is senseless, but they do it for the fans….if the fans are against them, why go through all this hassle….at the end of the day, they are doing their best to separate the pocket of fans that are ruining this from the majoirty who are not and still support them
2) luka’s injury: it doesn’t seem to be too bad…mri negative…he could arguably even play against spain, but overwhelming probability is they rest him realizing beating spain will be tough anyway…best to have luka back in best form for next round
3) mamic: things not going well. cacic continues to defy him and play his guys rather than a guy like pjaca, despite mamic going off on him. combo that with the bad western media press on him and you can’t say he’s had the best week. cacic’ behavior has actually been earning the respect of the main players and they are now behind him…. cacic is more likely to throw mamic a bone in this final game against spain
4) spain game: all reports point to croatia fans trying to disrupt the game. they are working with french ultras again. the savez and french police are scrambling but as we’ve seen, its tough to stop. word is they’ll launch the attack earlier this game, to give security less time to sniff them out
5) penalties/sancitons. no word on this yet, but will come back if i get anything!
ok, off I go for some drinks!
Easy boys. Most of us here I think are against Mamic AND those morons disrupting our matches.
@Dannyj
With Luka in the lineup we can beat anyone!
These aren’t hooligans, they are terrorists. Please call them what they are.
The logic beyond these terrorists is “they federation is corrupt so we will rise up with terror against them.” That the exact same rhetoric that created ISIS.
Anyone who stands and tries to justify their actions is just as bad. Some of you writers are a disgrace to your Croatian ancestors.
How any of these guys were allowed to leave France is beyond insane. They should be arrested for carrying and setting off explosives in a stadium and charged to the fullest extent of the law.
Everyone of the guys identified should be classified a terrorists.
Some of you on this forum are no better. I can’t believe what I’m reading. Glad some of our real fans tuned out some of these terrorists. Hope they all get significant jail time.
Also what happened to the boycott? They thought that would work but 99% of Hrvati don’t give a shit your Dinamo, Hajduk, BBB and Torcida politics. We don’t give a shit about what money Mamic didn’t pay in taxes because it doesn’t impact our lives any which way. That’s like a crying about single A baseball. No one cared so these scumbags yugos had to resort to terror.
By the way, Ante Cacic is undefeated and we dominated the majority of our first two games. Keep chirping about Mamic and Suker. Keep chirping about the HNS and Cacic. You don’t like the HNS, boycott… you won’t be missed.
Croatia 2, Spain 0.
Ante B, whomever you are obviously are a huge yugo..quit kissing the holligans a.sses. They should all be shot. And quit “defending” them..all of those idiots you are defending, if they didn’t throw a flare, they should have jumped in and beat the s.hit out of those throwing them..but they didnt.
We should keep “outing” those scum like we are you as the yugo you are.
Have to agree with ante b
He said that these are wrongly accused nothing more
Whether it’s true or not hopefully the truth will come out
im ok if we get to play Italy
Not saying we will win but fuck it they are there to play
Let’s hope the boys get stronger with this
Ante B.,
Okay. I wrote my last comment before I’ve read your last comments. You’re an okay-guy and I’m glad to now know that you also strongly against this kind of actions. I feel like now it’s time to stick together and say NO to hooliganism.
And in other news, I might be able to step up my move to Zagorje to this Sunday, this fucking heat here in Pasadena is melting my balls.
Did you read what I wrote? Look at the other page with over 500 comments. I’m saying make sure to blame the correct hooligans and not the ones who were inaccurately named. How is this supporting them? Put the blame on the ones who did it, put them in jail and find out who did the swastika. Look at the previous topic.
There is no offense from my end. Only when justice isn’t conducted properly.
Ante B.,
I think you’re the only one on this site who still supports Croatian hooligans.
I think you’re a very nice guy but you have to admit to what happened in Saint-Etienne was depressing for every Hrvati. Okay, Mamic is a crook but do you really think that this kind of behavior will chase him away? That’s so 1980’s. If you want to do something against him, contact some smart kids and make video or websites, I don’t know, find something, be original to win support for your case.
By the way, did you read Jutarnij List’s website today? Those morons already returned to Croatia and went to the police for interrogation. We’re talking about a group of 25, mostly from Split and Zagreb. They’re between 25 and 36, unmarried and live with their parents. I agree: we need change in Croatia, but do we need those kind of losers to actually make it happen?
I hope I didn’t offend you.
That’s right! Albania winning puts them in 3rd with only 3 pts. So barring any point deductions We (4 pts.) finish ahead of them. So now as long as one other 3rd place team is bellow us we’re through.
Maminjo neces razbojnice. E neces neces. Since were putting blame, make sure it’s on the right people. That’s called justice and not just because they look like navijaci. The list I’m talking about is the initial one that came out. People took it for gospel. But the blame on the correct people, that’s all. Neces razbojnice 🙂
Who switched? The guys whose names were posted were incorrect. That’s not switching.
There you go one group down for those of you worried about Croatia finishing 3rd
Albania basically out
Romania Out
@Ante B
Didn’t take long for you to switch back huh? 😉
come on guys. .
you know nothing about this tourney .
i wanna slap Platini use my P coz let 24 teams
and we play ridiculous system with the best 3rd
you know what this meaning. .
open your eyes ->
failed in group stage = 4th place on the group
failed in knock out 16th = 3rd place on the group
quarter final will count by 1st or 2nd on the group
don’t fucking up until quarter final. .
this is the true round, and decent to celebrate a goal with emotional ^^ v
here we come to judgement from Prof.LAknat about our national team performance recently. the means of professor football so deeply, because he can make our national team become a world cup champions with his tactic.
GK Subasic…….. 4.0/10
what was that! he didn’t jump to reach the ball and let czech got 1-2 score. next game i will deploy Lov Kalinic
LB Strinic…………7.0/10
he can control left side both defense area and offense well
DF Corluka………7.0/10
he managed defense well and don’t blame him for the goal, we know the goal keeper really garbage
DF Vida……………7.0/10
he managed defense well and don’t blame him for penalty, stubborn ignorance Cacic didn’t use subs to boost our attacking and let czech got their chance
LB Srna……………7.5/10
really impressed for his tireless, he dribbles ball well also conduct our attacking rythms astonishingly
DMF Badelj……….6.5/10
seems ok somehow and he had contibute for our first goal
MDF Modric………7.0/10
dribble well and versatility as a midfilder
MDF Rakitic………7.5/10
absoutely menace for czech team, he just need a good forward to be his partner for goal scoring. stupid stubborn (SS) Cacic needs to replace mandzukic with a dynamite kramaric
AMF Perisic……….7.0/10
composure to control ball in czech area, really cool for his first goal, but he got tired early after 70 minutes (he really loss his pace), SS Cacic should have subbed him and we still managed the attacking well.
AMF Brozovic……..6.5/10
he can keep the ball well, contribute for passing when we managed attack. if he has dribble technique like the God of Halilovic surely czech defense got scattered and easy to make a goal from assist
FW Mandzukic…….4.0/10
sigh ): Bad
SS Cacic should have subbed him much earlier
SS Cacic needs to be slapped to realize him for his fool!
if some players look so tired = subbed him
if some players totally garbage = subbed him
this player vividly garbage!!
UEFA are bunch of base MORONS, they punish their own players/teams for things they have absolutely no control of nor responsibility for; thereby INVITING hooliganism in order to sabotage. These fucking base MORONS put their own teams/players at the mercy of hooligans.
And the reason NOBODY, not even one person in the entire so called “free press” points this out is b/c they are all forced to agree that anybody and everybody remotely related to any act they deem to be “racist” must be punished. We all know you cede your free speech when you take a job in the so called “free press”.
Other than the Czechs first (arguably weak goal) we still had more quality chances after Modric limped off. Watch the game between the time Modric went off and the flares, we were still menacing. The flares took the players and fans (including me) out of the game.
Nobody in the world can replace Modric, b/c he is an unbelievable and willing defender. Kovacic wasn’t spectacular but he wasn’t bad either. He just can’t defend like Luka so there will be a drop off, but that would be true for any replacement.
Somebody says Strinic was weak, but I beg to differ. He picked off many passes, and played some great balls forward. Huge upgrade at LB.
Badelj needs to go. The guy did next to nothing, including his marking.
Mandzukic may not have scored, but played decently. His pressure was key. It caused so many turnovers, as well as forced the Czechs into clearing the ball time & time again. It was his pressure that caused the turnover on our second goal. No doubt that should have been a penalty when the defender plowed Mandzo over..
Agree that Cacic is waiting a bit too long to make his subs. Not sure what he is thinking.
Boy are the refs fucking the Swiss in the French game.
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So if we lose 2-0 to Spain and Czech beats turkey by a lot, we are our right ?
I cannot wait to see how much the guys who were wrongly accused will sue for.
@ Mishko and BZ
If they docked Croatia points in the midst of a tourney, the media, pundits, would have an absolute field day.
It would actually be counter productive since now Uefa are throwing more oil on the Fire, giving the hooligans the attention and notoriety they crave. They’d be loving it!
Best not to punish the team or Savez at all. They hand these guys a 1-year jail sentence, I’m mean make a real example outta these guys, trust me, there would be no more flares or violence at games.
The security in charge at St. Etienne should also be sanctioned.
I hope Čačić stays on as coach after this, and some laws in Cro are passed/enforced.
Kolinda made some strong comments, but her role is ceremonial. If the communist party wins, then this will probably go on. It will probably continue even with HDZ winning.
BBB/Torcida v Mamić/Šuker a side.
Strictly nogomet for a moment:
Cacic has done a good job with initial line ups / tactics.
But WHY can we not rotate fresh talent in from the 60th minute and on (Modric was a strain/sub).
God bless Srna as he has been a soul champion, but Spain is not his level any more. He needs a sub ASAP.
Mandžukić competes but if he does not have his scoring mojo then he comes off at 60 minutes.
Brozovic has been quite impressive.
Perišić has been great since Brazil.
I say the boys get together and play from their heart to the Croatian people who love Croatia.
I am full Hrvat, ZERO Balkan!
You can line up the BBB/Torcida etc .. , Mamić/Šuker and all the other scrubs …. …. …. !
Bog i Hrvati
It’s crazy – after 60 minutes of domination, plus the domination of Turkey, we looked like the best team in the tournament so far. It’s amazing that not just one thing went wrong, it was three – Modric gets injured, the hooligans throw flares and Vida has a brain cramp. Up until then, it was beautiful. Now the tough part, to regroup and get that mojo back. It will be tough without Modric. Hopefully, they make the playoffs, Luka gets some rest and is refreshed for the knockout stage.
The flares didn’t beat us, you can make that excuse as much as you want, without modric the game went. Everything stopped for us defense and offense
Kovacic didn’t show me one thing
I think the mid should be
Perisic Rakitic badelj Brozovic Pjaca
I was so heart broken when the flares happened cus i knew we would lose or draw 100% after that.This shit is pathetic , we have a amazing team and fans wanna ruin it so sad.Looks at this one of those scumbags had a picture of stadium and were they were gonna attack from on facebook…..
http://www.101greatgoals.com/news/croatia-ultras-match-sabotage-blueprint/
If anyone of these idiots tries to throw a flare against Spain, I hope all our fans go in and beat the living s.hit out of them. Beat them to a pulp
I really hope they don’t deduct points from us…Makes me so sad/upset how it was all looking good win the first game and we had the second game in our hands we should have 6 points and be going into Tuesday with a great chance of beating Spain but now with Modric out and this bs going on no one knows what to expect….I really hope they just fine us and no fans at home games in wc qualifiers…
@mile thx for the correction, i f’d those scenarios up. Reminder to self:Don’t post first thing in morning after a fun saturday night.
@ mishko i hope you are right. Pundits don’t mean anything to Uefa, unless they are on Uefa’s board. Uefa is stuck between a rock and a hard place… no penalty and the focus is still on their lack of adequate security vs. assess a penalty and pundits/media may go nuts.
@BZ, I don’t see UEFA docking us a point because that means that the hooligans win, it would be a publicity nightmare. Even the pundants are behind the team and saw our fans fighting with them.
Sweden, Ireland
North Ireland, Ukraine
Will all be out most likely
That means if Croatia finish 3rd they’re in for sure
Even after today’s game I believe 2 teams will be out, Romania and Albania
Sweden plays Belgium and Ireland plays Italy. Croatia is a pretty safe bet to be a third place playoff team. But with a one point penalty, they would probably have to tie or beat Spain. Without Modric, that would be tough.
@BZ
Good post. Bang on for the first paragraph.
@anon We were playing beautiful football with NONE of Mamic’s boys (pjaca,coric,rog) on the field. You want us to be pissed at Mamic for blowing kisses in the direction of a Coach who implemented 2 beautiful gameplans?
If we lose to Spain & Czechs beat Turkey. There is a good chance we don’t go thru to knockout stages. In this case we are out:
Scenario a)If we lose by 1 goal to Spain,
Sweden beat Ireland by 2 goals. OR
Ireland beat Sweden by 3 goals OR
N Ireland beat Germany.
Scenario b) if we lose by 2 goals to Spain,
Sweden beats Ireland OR
Ireland beats Sweden 2 goals OR
N Ireland beats Germany.
I think corrupt Uefa penalizes us 1 point. To the media this would seem fair, & it would effectively force us to get a result against Spain (ie potentially eliminating us without disqualifying us and causing a major uproar). This 1 point penalty benefits the most countries, as even Turkey & Ukraine would have outside chances of going thru (Uefa is more corrupt than our FA by far).
I’m really sad we’ve got no Modric against Spain. Hes the straw! He could’ve really made things happen against them. Now who steps in, Kovacic?! I’ve honestly never been the biggest Kovacic fan. And so far at the last WC and 30 minutes of Euro playing time he hasn’t proven me wrong. He reminds me of a Ricardo Queresma type talent. All flash no substance.
Another note Rakitic had one of his better games ever for us so maybe he takes it up a level and puts inanother man of the match performance.
^^^
Correct dumbass. The threat is the hooligans. Not Mamic or Suker.
There’s this photo at tportal.com of Mamic leaning over the railing before the match and either giving directives or blowing kisses at his flunky coach, dunno, might be doing both and all the hysterical focus is on hooligans being the greatest threat to Croatian football.
http://www.slobodnadalmacija.hr/sport/domaci-nogomet/clanak/id/316551/dio-huligana-koji-su-izazvali-prekid-drzavljani-su-bih-i-srbije
@Kreso you gotta link to that?
@mr. Black
Thank you for posting. They are retards and the root of the problem. Nothing wrong with Croatian Football. These morons cause the problems.
Article in the Jutarnij List:
The president of Torcida claims that Torcida isn’t behind the attack in France or…maybe they are… (?) but as long as some leading people don’t leave the Savez, there will always be trouble according to him. (!)
In a pathetic attempt to win our sympathy, he reminds us that several former members of the Torcida died while they fought for Croatia during the war. As if that gives him the right to ruin our entire country.
To be honest, this guy is even more retarded than I thought. There’s only one solution. Consider the entire Torcida and probably the BBB as a mobster organization and throw its members in jail where they can slowly die. If we don’t act against these retards now, our country and not only our football will soon be ruined.
Read the article. It’s hard not to get angry.
http://sportske.jutarnji.hr/nogomet/navijaci/torcida-odgovorila-na-prozivke-jesu-li-baklje-i-topovski-udari-pravi-nacin-borbe-mozda-ne…/4453160/
We need to get excited again for some quality football! I think Cacic can bring these players back to focusing on the game, and we can only hope the French authorities tighten security. Croatia vs. Spain is a dream matchup, and since we don’t run UEFA or the HNS, we may as well get ready to enjoy the game!
Slobodna Dalmacija now saying unconfirmed reports from ‘various European media sources’ suggest that some of the hooligans were not citizens of Croatia but rather of Serbia and Bosnia.
@ Mixed grill
I was thinking the same. Honestly, I think it’s really tough to refocus after that stupidity. They players are wondering at what will be the tipping point that tosses them from the Euro’s or WCQ. I really feel for them because before this stupidity they looked really good…and I truly thought they would be making a good run this year. Sadly, I think these morons have achieved what they set out to do….I really hope I’m wrong!!
If they can stay mentally strong and emerge from this with a good showing against Spain we could come out even stronger.
Ajmooo decki!!
Mexicans behaving badly
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/blogs/soccer-fc-yahoo/mexico-sees-ugliness-on-and-off-the-field-073455316.html
How does the team refocus on football? I hate what happened but maybe it will toughen the team up mentaly. To make it far in tournament you cant get frazzled by events that dont go your way. Lets hope they learn from this and emerge a stronger team.
The Ultra’s need to understand that when the NT plays we all become one. I understand that he banned the BBB from Dynamo games and had police harass and rough them up in Zagreb but this is not the time to cause trouble
Although Mamic and Suker and not clean skins, these hooligans need to get out of our national team. This team has the potential for something great and they could seriously stuff it up.
10 years ago, our team played in a packed Makimir stadium, these days we are playing in half empty stadium in our own homeland and in Koprivnica a stadium with 3000 people. People are sick of all the bullshit, both the HNS and Hooligans need to grow up and do the right thing by our players who are representing all of us all around the world.
I went to visit my papa the other day, and he’s still into football, i had to tell him about the result and our fans ruining it.. he’s like 80 years old now and i want him to have some peace and quiet towards the end of his life, im so sick of shit garbage from our fans.. very unhappy about it tbh..
Iggy,
I’m disgusted too but there’s hope.
If you watch the video in my first post, you see how Croatian fans start to insults those morons. A few of those hooligans ran off but some of them were beaten up by our true fans.
Also a high official in Croatia said that they will look into this and make sure that they will only punish the hooligans and not the Croatian fans who kicked the shit out of those hooligans on the stands.
This means that next time when those morons do something on the stands, even more Croatian fans will stand up and attack them. I don’t think those hooligans will dare to do it against Spain, but if I do, I think some of them will not survive.
Also people in Croatia are furious. The addresses, names and even jobs of those lowlifes are already on the internet. Their lives will turn into nightmares, I even think they’re safer in prison now than in Hrvatska. People in Croatia want them in prison or even dead. Some of them are even talking to put them on Goli Otok (the island where Tito locked up his enemies).
Let’s face it: 99% of the Hrvati wants to be like the Irish: drink, have fun and enjoy the game. Only those losers ( BBB, Torcida and Armada) still want to be like the Serbs but their days are over. They finally considered as morons and retards by the entire nation.
One of my friends asked what happened with the fans and i had to explain it to him, but i said im basically disgusted with our fans. Im seriously sick and tired of this shit. The
HNS should confiscate the passports of these wankers, stop them going to games.
Some names.
http://3opcija.com/
One of those losers apparently only has one t-shirt, his adidas t-shirt. He looks like a retard. Is this the man who has to bring change to Croatian football? I mean, look at the guy’s face. He has got to be inbred or something.
Ante,
I know it will not be easy but an interview with the man in red and white checkered shirt, shorts and cap and who’s in the last tree pics of the album (the one who kicks and beats the morons) , would be great.
He’s my personal hero!
Maybe it’s Ziva Istina!
Ante,
Have a nice trip and a great time in France.
And watch out: these are the thugs. I hope they’re already in jail.
https://m.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/4oo31g/pics_of_croatian_fans_resisting_hooligans/?ref=search_posts