So who is Borut Šips? He is the Tportal.hr reporter that Dinamo Zagreb general manager, Zdravko Mamić, flipped out on last week during a press conference. Šips asked Mamić, “What do you have to say about you running Dinamo while your brother and son run a sports agency in Croatia? Is there a conflict of interest there?” Mamić immediately blew his fuse, calling Šips a liar, an instigator and every other Croatian curse word in the book. Šips took it like a man and didn’t lose his composure by the arrogant Mamić remarks.
The video below says enough. Is the relationship Croatian media have with their heads of sport going to be like this- a circus? How can we have civilized debate and questions answered when someone who is (supposed to be) distinguished like Mamić acts like a four year-old every time a camera is in front of him?
They say ‘chivalry is dead’, however, in Mamić’s case, ‘professionalism is dead’ would be more appropriate.
MAMIĆ LOSES IT AT NEW CSR FRIEND BORUT ŠIPS
Rozalija Kučko aka Miss CSR reporting from Zagreb
Translated/Edited by Branimir Kvartuč
fuck mamic. he's a caveman and an embarrassment to soccer-loving croats everywhere. i wish sips would've punched him in the face or given him a swift kick in the jaje.
JerseyCro- I agree with you that Sips has a more positive outlook about the future than most of us, but what are you talking about when you say “hire a competent manager”. You don’t think Bilic gets an A for his time here?
That rant looked like something out of Tony Soprano, especially with the kisses and then cursing…WHILE eating. The only thing missing was Paulie Walnuts (unless that was the guy who kissed him).
It’s not just soccer, as all of Croatia is run by the corrupt likes of Mamic because they know they can get away with it.
thanks Super…..I knew there was no chance it was 800 million euros. Even the big boys in Europe do not make that much of a profit.
I think anonymous was refering to this article which says dinamo made in the last 4 years roughly 800 million KUNAS not euros, which would be roughly 110 euros.
http://www.24sata.hr/nogomet/zlatna-koka-dinamo-pun-ko-brod-a-zele-prodavati-igrace-203140
*not all people from zagreb. but this tycoon guys. stimac would never swear like this. like him or not.
koja sramota. thats what i said before. ljudi iz zagreba se pravu pametni.
go find that article, because that figure is 100% wrong. I still don't believe it is $800 million euros. There is no chance, it is not even at 100 million…..or maybe you need to learn how to read croatian.
now, go to school.
ziva istina a few weeks ago there was an article on 24 sata on how much Dinamo Zagreb has made in the last 6-7 years. It broke down the figures into how much money wasmade in each category player transfers, sponsors etc…..so you can have a productive debate with me anytime…..Happy New Year to you…
hej ljudi…
a bit off topic but where better to ask? i'm in Zagreb at the moment, anyone know of any really good places for hrvatska/dinamo merchandise? hvala i sretna nova godina! 🙂
so many flaws in your statement….dude….come on, Abramovic had deep pockets, that is why he purchased Chelsea. He has not made money on Chelsea, he has lost money on Chelsea – not that he cares.
and where did you get the $800 million euros figure…..that is way off….tough to have a productive conversation when you use false facts and make misstatements.
I agree with all of you…yes the HNL is watered down and yes Dinamo hasn't done anything in Europe all that is understandable. This year looked like a a great start for Dinamo yet was again disapointed. The coach they have now is the best they have had in a long time….Yes i know Zagreb finances Dinamo and Yes i know Mamic has deep pockets due to all those transfers and he has more than benefited. But if you guys were in his shoes what would you do? Money changes people and makes them greedy and thats the problem not only in Croatia but all around the world. Greed in rare instances is good but can also be a detriment to any person. Football is a business and some people profit greatly….AKA Abramovic…..These people care about themselves and its what business people do is just look out for themselves…..the corporate world is like that too……deal with it no one is perfect…..if you were Mamic you would all be doing the same thing minus the yelling and stuff which is just to garner media attention…..Mamic has money and so does Dinamo…..in the last 6 years they made close to 800 million Euros…. they are a financially successful club….All thanks to Mamic and his connections…..Btw Where are all you guys from?
Nakon predblagdanskog proklinjanja i Božića u krevetu s crijevnom virozom i temperaturom, Zdravko Mamić odlučio je povući se u "zaleđe". Za Večernji list ispričao je sve što ga tišti i najavio:
– Nakon Nove godine ću nestati! A tražim i izlaznu strategiju da odem iz kluba! Dosad nisam tako ozbiljno razmišljao o tome. Raspadam se, vidim bijele miševe od iscrpljenosti rješavanjem tuđih problema. No, ne mogu se samo naljutiti i otići jer to bi bila izdaja Dinama, obitelji…
"Crijevna Viroza" or Intestinal Virus…was ZM "proklet na Božić," Damned on Christmas. Did his damning of Borut Šips backfire?
http://gol.hr/clanak/hnl/deja-vu-mamic-najavio-odlazak-iz-dinama.html -READ-. reports from gol.hr say mamic is out!!
What Kristofer fails to understand is that Dinamo is a public institution financed by the city of Zagreb, Mamić is using your tax kune to build his wealth which, in turn, builds his power which in turn allows him to act the way he acts. All the peeps making 4000 kune per month are financing Zdravko Mamic. I'm surprised some war veteran sharpshooter getting 1000kn "vojne mirovine" hasn't taken this f@@ker out. It doesn't matter, the Russian mafia will soon do the job…
mamic has takin more money from dinamo then usual managers in the europe would.(from transfers of modric, dudu, corluka) but fact is that dinamo make minimal money on ticket sales. averageing 2000 fans per game…i think this vegly explains dinamo constantly transfering players. just to support their current team salary.
@Kristofer……..laughable, never let the facts gets in the way of a false arguement. what has dinamo done in the last 10 years????????? Nothing. They have won a watered-down HNL that stinks. Is that an accomplishment. What has Dinamo done in Europe in 10 years…….NULA. Even hardcore dinamo supporters will tell you winning the cro league means nothing.
Yes, Mamic has the money and power….not dinamo. Plenty of those transfers benefited Mamic much more than it did Dinamo. Learn about some of the behind the scenes actions and then come on here and comment.
to nije istina, to je ziva istina
to ziva istina and vatreni poludilo….typical guys who follow the rules lol ma daj plez…..no one in the world does anything by the book anymore…..Rooting for the bad guy in the movies is just like rooting for Mamic in this situations. Mamic made Dinamo great look at the infrastructure of the club…..such as the school of football its the best in Croatia Sips even said it…..Canjuga was a moron …..Mamic made Dinamo a financial powerhouse….give the guy respect where its due….and Ziva Istina after Euro 2008 Bilic should have been axed as he wore out his welcome….Croatia was a hit in 2008 but failed to live up to expectations for the world cup qualifying rounds…..Ziva Istina what is this a history lesson? i know my history thank you very much, Mamic can do whatever he wants because he has money and power and no one has the balls to do anything to him….Dinamo was doing ok in the 90's but in in the last 10 years Dinamo has done more than ok……Hajduk sucks, Dinamo je Svetinja…NAPRIJED DINAMO I MAMIC
@Anonymous,
yeah you're right Mamic invented soccer… that's why Dinamo is so good. Give your head a shake man. After Mamic invented nogomet, Slaven Bilic perfected it, that's why HRV has dominated Europe for the last 15 years!!!!
ma daj…
Mamic is out of control. How is this guy not fined for this stuff. Jose Mourinho makes the handcuffs gesture and gets fined and suspended for three games in Italy. What happenes to Mamic? Nothing. He is the most out of control sports personality in the world. How on earth is this kind of behaviour tolerated.
@anonymous……..you are dead wrong when say there would be no Dinamo without Mamic. Go back to the mid and late 90s. Mamic was not a visible figure and dinamo was doing OK with a CL appearance. The Cnajuga era had its problems (Uncle Franjo ordering state run firms to sponsor the club) but less headaches than the Mamic era. Know your history before you post glupost.
Everyone hates on Maminjo and its great to be rooting for the bad guy once in a while. Yes what Mamic is doing is wrong but why bring this to the attention of the public now after he is 7 years in charge? Why not before? And who cares anyway if any of you grew up in Croatia most people who achieve such positions are driven by money and nothing else. The reporter had balls to ask questions but Mamic is GOD and anyone who gets in his way will get what Sips got. I agree with Stipan lol MAMIC IS GOD and yes im a prick too by nature lol. Most of you are born outside of Cro same like me. If there was no Mamic there would be no DINAMO and after all football is a business people fail to realize that. Like Gordon Gekko said 'Its all about bucks kid, the rest is conversation' So ask yourself, if you were Mamic what would you do?
Everyone hates on Maminjo and its great to be rooting for the bad guy once in a while. Yes what Mamic is doing is wrong but why bring this to the attention of the public now after he is 7 years in charge? Why not before? And who cares anyway if any of you grew up in Croatia most people who achieve such positions are driven by money and nothing else. The reporter had balls to ask questions but Mamic is GOD and anyone who gets in his way will get what Sips got. I agree with Stipan lol MAMIC IS GOD and yes im a prick too by nature lol. Most of you are born outside of Cro same like me. If there was no Mamic there would be no DINAMO and after all football is a business people fail to realize that. Like Gordon Gekko said 'Its all about bucks kid, the rest is conversation' So ask yourself, if you were Mamic what would you do? Sell players after a few seasons aiming for Champs League to make profit or develop them and then sell them?
How on earth did Mamic become so powerful in Croatian soccer? Its really incredible if you think about it.
Perisic scores 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUKwRBYb82s
Mamic reminds me of the owner of the MLB teams like the A's or Pirates. You know there teams will always be sub par, and when they get good talent they just let it go to the highest bidder.
Where is Ante B?
you want facts……..
facts…….mamic's son and brother run a agency.
fact……mamic runs dinamo
fact…..conflict of interest according to the new law in croatia.
fact……the money generated from the sale in the last 6-7 years of dinamo players has not all gone to dinamo.
fact…….the money generated from the sale in the last 6-7 years of dinamo players has gone to mamic and more so than the standard percentage agents usually receive.
fact…….mamic would never be allowed to be a club president while his brother and son run an agency in a legit country.
fact……mamic has threatened officials, reporters, players, fans in the last 7 years.
fact……mamic has made players sign documents/contract without the players knowing what they are signing
none of this is opinion, innuendo…..all facts….
do you want more facts…if so, just let me know.
As soon as Sips shows some hard facts i will believe him. i dont like mamic dont get me wrong. but all Sips has is allegations, if he shows some hard facts ill be set.
Borut Šips, ti si legenda!
Mamic is an animal but there is nobody within croatian soccer that has the balls and power to discipline him. Imagine if the president of an EPL team acted the way Mamic does, the FA would suspend him and he would be removed from his post.
Just more proof what the cro league has become and the lack of desire for anyone within the game to do something.
I cant believe there are actually people who think the media is to blame for Mamic. Media only reports on what you offer them. Its not the media that acts like a primitive fool, takes his clothes off at the airport and verbally attacks people in public.
Inače rijetko se slažem sa diasporom u mnogim pitanjima al drago mi je vidjeti da apsolutna većina ovdje pruža podršku Šipsu osim naravno Stipana za kojeg sam odmah skužio da je iz Hrvatske. Drago mi je da ste imali priliku vidjeti tip osobe koja je samo ogledni primjerak cijelog niza idiota kakvi nam vode državu, On je jedan od mnogih, kriminalac kojeg štite drugi kriminalci na vlasti. Stvari se na sreću polako počinju mijenjati pa se nadam da i ovaj poput sanadera neće još dugo blebetati na slobodi.
Pozdrav iz Zagreba i sretna vam nova godina!
It appears that Mamic and I have the same necktie. I think I need to go burn mine now.
@Bronk
I completely agree. We should aim to win, because we can. Greece proves it. Now granted we likely won't have "homefield" advantage like the Greeks but overall we produce more talent than them, and we're better. So it is possible and we should aim thus. Likewise with Denmark in '92.
@ Stipan
haha, are you serious man?
I will say this though: Without Dinamo Zagreb the NT would be garbage….even with the "too many foreign players" arguement. They still do a better job than the HNL combined and Mamic has professionalized the youth development at Dinamo (even Sips said it in the interview!)
Are his interests selling off these players rather than keeping them for 4-5 years to build a team? Most likely, but they are still producing them
That is my main problem with Mamic, we all know he is a Dinamovac, but I think his love for money comes first. About the yelling and screaming I actually don't care too much as long as he doesn't resort to violence, its not the most professional but the media also likes to sensationalize it. So what if he takes off his clothes at the airport? lol
Stipan were you born an idiot, or did you grow up to be one?
Yess mamic. best manager and im glad the stupid reporter got yelled at he deserves it. all the reporters provoke mamic and im glad it ended like this. IF DINAMO DIDNT HAVE MAMIC THEY WOULDNT WIN ONE GAME!
If Greece can win a title Croatia always has a chance! Man Mamic is hilarious with his outbursts. Reminds me of Nero when he was losing his mind. How on earth did this guy ever become so powerful in Croatian soccer. Gives hope to everyone.
Svaka cast Ms. CSR! Nails it out of the park again. It's nice to know there are reporters like Mr Sips (and Ms. Kucko) who aren't easily scared by Mamic and who above all stand their ground. Added note, Mr. Sips is a dinamovac who spent time in Sjever and around Croatia/Europe who is still passionate about his team. His interview with Robi in BG, well, no comment.
Svaka vam cast!
MAMICU ODLAZI!
DOSTA
Also to add, Mamic has absolutely no KULTURA, not an ounce.
The issue here is, this POS NEVER ANSWERED the question. All he did was name call and name call. Is Mamic jewish by any chance?
Borut handled that situation professionally. He kept his composure. But come on, it would've been great to see him slap that bonbon right out of Mamic's mouth. That's what I would've done if someone was talking to me like that.
Mamic is a wealthy man in a powerful position and I'm sure he has paid the right people over the years with those killer deals. As long as he makes money he'll be in charge. That's why people kiss his ass. I can't stand it.
Nice job team CSR, and to Ms. CSR of course 🙂
Hopefully enough of these "choban" outbursts by Mamic will aggregate until somebody in power finally says "dosta" to this seljak. What an embarrassment this guy is…
Welcome to the team Borut!
I love the fact that the other dudes started kissing Mamic during his outburst… like he's some Godfather Capo Don… hilarious… and then he throws a "bon bon" into his mouth and continues… classic, you can't script stuff like this!
@Jersey Cro…….those are some lofty expectations. Qualifying for a major tourney equals success for Cro. you said it yourself, look at the state of the league, that alone makes it an accomplishment that we are able to qualify for major tournaments. Cro will never win a major tourney. Making it out of the first round and into any knockout stage is a huge success. How many world class players do we have? Maybe one, Modric, and that is it.
I love it….Time to take it to these Zagreb criminals. Ask the hardball questions. He should have said to him "ti smrdis od korupcije."
can someone please explain how Mamic has soo much power and has never been forced to uphold any type of professionalism? he represents a relatively large known european club but acts like an ignorant peasant!how does he command soo much respect? he's an embarassment to our people…what's the story with this creten?
The future is bright? We have only one club producing players, the diaspora has produced more than Hajduk in recent years. While our national team is "Top 10" we haven't done anything great in 12 years at a major tournament (in me personal opinion, Euro 2008 was more disappointing than a success). This generation of players already failed to qualify for a tournament. Our football federation is super cheap and will never hire a competent manager. The league gets worse year by year
I don't see this "future". I'm sure Croatia will still be fine, qualifying for most tournaments and retaining a good FIFA ranking, but I doubt we will see too much improvement in the next 10 years unless the stuff which I wrote above changes