HRVATSKA Starting XI: Subašić – Vrsaljko, Vida, Mitrović, Pivarić – Rakitić, Modrić – Brozović, Kramarić, Perišić – Mandžukić
Forget about winning the group, Croatia will need a draw or better against Ukraine on Monday to simply qualify for the playoff round in November. A loss in Kiev will see the Vatreni miss the World Cup outright.
Croatia have finally hit a Great Depression. First Iceland in June. Then Turkey in September. Now Finland in October.
Croatia has a group of world class players who play in Champions League every season, yet they can’t beat a Finland team on home soil?
I’m at a loss for words right now. I had no idea how bad everything surrounding the team was, but it’s obviously worse than I could imagine. Nothing here to say. Maybe it finally is time to hit rock bottom.
Mandžukić goal vs. Finland
Did we give 100% in this game like we did against Azerbaijan and Norway (Modric said we did) in the last qualifying campaign? Giving 100% is all you can ask.
Obviously we need a master tactician to beat Finland at home!
Look, Finland has world class players, Croatia has world class players, but we are at a disadvantage because Finland also have a world class master tactician coach.
Not surprised by this result, Finland is world class!
Can’t wait for the next qualifying campaign, hoping for some changes.
Kalinic
Vrsaljko Caleta-Car Jedvaj A.Milic
Rog Pasalic
Pjaca Kovacic Perisic (c)
Kramaric
Simunic coach!
krs***** excuse my TBE auto correct
Some Bosnia losing beers were in order
The only people that think otherwise of hercegovci are 4th generation diaspora hrvati usually North America who’ve never been to croatia
Poglavnik is good.
Herceg bosnooooooooo srce ponosnoooooooooo
Kamen kris I maslinaaaaaaaaaaaaa
No, that’s not okay. My point is perpetuating divisions amongst our own people plays into the hands of the jugos, commies, Serbs, etc. that spread such crap with the goal of dividing us. Hercegovac, Slavonac, Dalmatinac, etc… all good, all brothers
You know what? You can go fuck yourself! Next thing you will tell me is that it’s ok to kneel for the anthem as well.
“Some of my best friends are…” [insert group of people you are generalizing/stereotyping about here].
@ab, listen bud some of my best friends are hercegovci. And I tell them stuff like this all the time. This has nothing to do with who did what in the war. I’m not here to pick a fight with hercegovci, I’m just telling it how it is and if you have a problem with that than that’s your problem not mine.
@anonymous 1
Easy with the anti Hercegovci slander. Any ‘odgojen’ Hrvat knows the sacrifices, fighting spriit and this is justification for some of the comments made by @poglavnik… Your negative comments against Hercegovci are consistent with that yugo shit Alex Holiga. Bare that thought.
Meh. More bored than anything else..
Have a good one. 😉
Somebody help! The young lad truth troll has discovered me, his čuna. I know, a bit young to start with such activities, but nevertheless… He keeps calling me his “intern”, and only stops abusing me to play fifa and troll on the internet!
@poglavnik. Ok ya you got me! Ass kickers it is!! Are we done now? You happy now?
@anonymous1
Reputation as ass kickers? Sure!
Just look at Raketa’s hair.
When I was a little kid I went for a haircut with my mom and came home with spiked up hair and a shit-ton of gel in it. My old man took one look at it, proceeded to give me a good smackdown, and shit all over my mama. If I had gotten frosted tips I’d probably still be hanging from our backyard tree. Things like that will toughen you up in a hurry.
Fuck the hugs, most of our team could have used a few more šamars growing up.
The match has just ended; 2-1 for Greece. It looks like we need to win in Ukraine on Monday, which will be a difficult task especially the way we are playing at the moment.
Pretty much official now. Croatia need a win on Monday. A tie will get them in the playoff only if Wales ties Ireland by a lower score than Croatia ties Ukraine. The way Croatia’s offense has struggled, I don’t see a 2-2 or 3-3 game happening.
@poglavnik, I just think rakitic is over rated. What has he done for me lately. And stop with the hercegovci bullshit, thats why you hercegovci have this reputation.
Yes, I know but Slovakia would have 12 points and a +5 differential. With a tie, Croatia would have 12 points and a +2 differential.
mile you were about to owe my intern a big apology from me ripping him a new one
but I realized malta is in last place. victories over last place teams do not count in the 2nd place run off. Slovakia is out
Ahh interesting. Let me get on my intern and see what he missed
truth, if Greece wins, they will have 13 second place points. So Croatia would have to win against Ukraine. A Greek tie or loss today would pretty much make their group the worst second place group, and Croatia would only need a draw. As for Scotland losing or tying, if Slovakia beats Malta at home (pretty much a safe assumption), Slovakia would be second with 12 points and a +5 goal differential, so again Croatia would need the win.
@sava you don’t say?
@Mile, excellent Coles notes version, thanks.
@Anonymous1
If Rakitic came from a family of Hercegovci no one would be questing his fight.
Let’s assume Greece win today. That would mean that seven of the eight groups’ second place teams would have a better record than Croatia, assuming a Croatia draw against Ukraine. The only one left where Croatia can squeek by is the Wales group. If Wales and Ireland tie, and Croatia tie, Wales and Croatia would fight for the last second place spot and it would come down to goal difference. Right now it’s 7-5 Wales and 6-4 Croatia in goals for/against. If both games are draws, Croatia would have to draw by at least a goal more, ie. Croatia 2-2, Wales 1-1. They would be exactly even in goal differential. The next tiebreaker is fair play. Right now Croatia is 4 yellow cards short of Wales. The way Croatia’s offense is going, I wouldn’t count on that tiebreaker working out.
I’m going to assume Wales would have a better 2nd place record than us should they even just draw versus Ireland.
In a nutshell, we are in deep shit if the Greeks win today.
group h breakdown
cyrpus up 1 -0. if I’m not mistaken, Greece must lose to Cyprus or else they will be ahead of Croatia for second place.
Greece will sit on 11 points with a tie against Cyprus but a goal differential of +3 vs Croatia’s goal differential of +2
group f
need Scotland to tie or lose vs Slovenia
group d
need Ireland to beat wales. or if wales and Ireland tie, Croatia and wales will sit even goal difference (+2). but wales will have more goals scored at 7 vs Croatia’s 6. so will matter on a Croatia tie how many goals Croatia scores vs how many goals wales scores
so there you have the scenarios where Croatia could tie and sneak into the playoffs
now a bit of positive news for the diaspora that is worthwhile to consider. here are how I see final odds of outcomes. lets first start with some basis assumptions
cro-ukraine win/loss/tie 25/40/35
ice-Kosovo win/loss/tie 80/15/5
last second place team 10% (all these events must happen not happen)
cyrpus win (40%)
Scotland loss/tie vs Slovenia (70%)
Ireland win/tie vs wales with goal differential edge (45%)
so you’re probability tree ends up looking like this for Croatia outcomes
Croatia loses and eliminated 35%
cro tie and play off (40% x 90%) = 36%
cro tie and knocked out (40% x 10%) = 4%
cro win and playoff (25% x 80%) = 20%
cro win and direct qualify (25% x 20%) = 5%
To take a step further, cro would have to go to the playoff, so if you want to look at world cup probability assuming 50/50 on any playoff it looks as follows
Take the playoff odds for 56% and divide by 2 –> 28% chance of making world cup via playoff
add in 5% chance of direct world cup qualification
–> cro’s chances of making the world cup sit at 33%
Slovakia gets second based on goal differential in that scenario. All group games count in the standings. It’s the second place head to head with the other second place teams where the games against the last place teams are eliminated. Assuming this happens, Slovakia would have 12 points and a plus 5 goal differential. If Croatia tie Ukraine, they would be at 12 points and plus 2 goal differential. Right now, if Greece holds on to win against Cyprus, Croatia would be the worst second place team with a tie against Ukraine.
@ Peter North
If Scotland don’t win, Slovakia will take 2nd with an easy game against Malta and a superior goal difference.
If we draw, we will have 12pts alongside Slovakia and Slovakia will be ahead of us due to their goal difference.
If Greece win this – we MUST win in Ukraine.
@poglavnik, meant Mando and who gives a shit if I miss spelled rakitic, he’s shit anyway
Just looking at Group F where Scotland sits in 2nd. What if they draw with Slovenia and Slovakia wins their game. That would put Scotland and Slovakia on 18 points, minus the 6 versus Malta, it gives both sides 12.
I think Scotland wins out on head to head but with 12 points and if Croatia draws on Monday, would we not have a better 2nd place record than the Scots or even the Slovaks?
@soul champ. Thanks man! Probably nyc i will post we go out. I usually go to a new york ranger game at msg once a year. I hear you though the frustration needs some humour sometimes. Haha. But seriously i will post when i come to nyc!
Actually more like a tranny..
@The Anonymous1
It’s Rakitic not Rakatic, and I have no idea who Mandic is. 😉 Sounds like a porn star.
And Greece just made 1-2
It was 1-0 for Cyprus. Greece just equalized. C’mon Cyprus!
@Cigan, nope but that group is a shit show, there are 3-4 sides who were still in the running for 2nd place entering today’s matches.
@Peter North
r u like legit trolling or???
It’s a big game for Cyprus as well as they still can grab 2nd place. Wouldn’t be surprised if they won.
Like us, Greece has trouble finding the back of the net.
Bosnia is a fake state. If the international community didn’t support its existence it would be finished. They play as a representing a whole but in Reality Herceg Bosna cheers on Croatia and Republic of Srpska cheers for Serbia.
Idemo,
At this point I’m lost! Even if we had Prosinecki as coach I doubt we would have done much better. I agree there has to be change but these last 4 games were easy results and the players lost…this has a lot to do with them! It happened with Stimac and Kovač as well…there is no way we can always blame the coach…our players have to take a big portion of the blame.
Halilovic, in my opinion, could fuck things up in the dressing room even more!
First of all I don’t need some Serbian jerkoff telling me my team is shit! I can do that on my own! 2nd, to Finbarr, Modric is the best soccer player we EVER had. Imagine we had no Modric? The man is simply a world class soccer player who is playing with a bunch of nobodies on the national team. Rakatic, Perisic, Mandic, etc…. where were they yesterday? So hard watching that game yesterday when our big boys minus Modric can’t do squat!!!! And 3rd, poglavnik! Spoken like a true hercegovac, we need more Hercegovci! Nemas pojma like the rest of you hercegovci!
^ ^
Thank you.
I hope it’s a wide open game.
3-2 to the good is my (hopeful) prediction.
I’ve done all the sums. If Greece win tonight we will be out if we draw in Kiev.
Your soccer team is shit and now you fire your coach hoping for a miracle! Sun won’t be shining on your asses anytime soon! All Balkan nations will be watching World Cup next summer on the teli!!!!!!!!
All I know is our team needs more Hercegovci in it. There’d be a lot more fight and leadership if so.
@slavonac
What’s your take on the likes of Jajalo and halilokebab
I’ve never like Bosna as a soccer nation…can’t stand those balija’s!
Now if Greece drops points to Cyprus today, Croatia only need a tie. If Greece wins, Croatia likely will need a win. Bosnia is pretty much eliminated. If they finish second, they would have 11 second place points. A Greece tie or loss would eliminate them too.
Tough luck Bosna.
That’s how u go down swinging.
just need a tie
Cmon Belgium!! Up 4-3!
omg this fucking game is nuts lmao
4-3!!!!! BELGIUM!!!! What’s fucking game
Bosnia equalize 3-3
absolute fuxking madnes of a game they’re combining and playing as if they haven’t eaten in three days
Hate to say this hungrier than us
Lmfaoooooo ^^^
i think the muslims used their pitch for cattle grazing
@ Zee
“I hope Zlatko Dalić is croatian for Ancelotti!”
LMFAO…
Next time in NYC or Hrvatska, dinner on me.
Best one liner ever.
@ Slavonac
Modrić = Respect !
Anyone blaming him for Mamić etc … is misguided.
Could you imagine us without him?
Bulgaria ?
FUCK KFFFFF BATSUHIYI MISSED 1 v1 for 4-2
3-2!!!! Let’s go!!!!!
my Sunday league pitch is Camp Not for Sarajevo
just think about it Peter. Estonia. we are at a point where we are relying on teams like Estonia and Cyprus.
say it out loud.
estonia.
My bad, Would not suprise me to see Bosnia not get the full points versus Estonia.
Estonia has had a few decent results within the group. I think they still have an outside shot at 2nd place themselves.
2-2!!!!!!!
Greece plays Gibraltar last
No Bosnia plays Estonia last
If Bosnia wins they are on 11 points. They’re last game is against Gibraltar which means nothing as results versus last placed teams are dropped. If Croatia ties on Monday, big if of course, that gives them 12 points and a playoff position.
@ Zee
LMFAO !
That is the post of the decade .
@Idemo
Haven’t watched the game…just checking for updates. Jebote.
Zlatko Dalic, the new coach, is from Livno.
A five minute drive from Livno is Duvno.
Duvno has five letters in its name.
Mamic has five letters in his name.
Mamic is from Duvno.
illuminati confirmed?
fuck just tuning in, what were the goals like
Stimac fired mid way
Kovac fired mid way
Cacic fired mid way
3 for 3
Pssss. Might be the players not the coach
Ugh. We need A Bosnia loss here They are not helping us out! Lol
That should provide the link to the best 2nd place teams as is sits going into today’s games.
http://www.uefa.com/european-qualifiers/news/newsid=2506867.html
2-1 Bosna now.
Belgium controlling possession but Bosna out-shooting them 2/1.
This is a hungry team, desperate team.
Ziva is the Truth….he’s from the toronto area
I hope zlatko dalic is croatian for ancelloti.
????
Ever since Ziva died this site hasn’t been the same. He was full of shit many times, but it was entertaining reading some of the reactions he got.
I think it was Ziva was the one who used to say something like “short term pain for long term gain”. Would missing out on the World Cup and a full house cleaning of the savez qualify for that? Would it be worth it. Something needs to happen. Looks at the guys we have on paper. Qualifications should have been a sure thing.
Sorry, I’m just bitter today after watching that game yesterday.
Belgium up 1 – nil right off the bat against Bosna
Vrsaljko the type of guy to shave his pubes then glue them to his face.
We need a Herm Edwards “you plaaaaay, to WIN the game!” type speech from our new guy. We can’t play for a draw.
As much as i’d like to stay positive, I don’t see us winning against Ukraine. A draw may be possible, though. Let’s hope the new guy is better than cacic
Modric is part of the problem here. If you don’t see this, you don’t understand the game. Why does he have to take on everything? Free kick in early first half just outside box on the left. Perfect spot for Perisic? No, Luka has to take. FFS!!!! Eleven must play to succeed. Eleven together. Not ten plus one. It has stifled our offense since the 6-0 over Kos. Modric’s passing last 20 minutes of the match stunk of desperation. It invited disaster and that’s what we deserved!!
@Turbo Srbo
1-1 might feel like a loss to us but to you and all the other dumb-shit Serbs on our site, 1 goal for Hrvatska and 1 goal for Finland equals a draw.
I so sad this is happening
@Turbo Srbo Finland is a good team always has been a team that 3 points is always hard to get. Croatia is definitely a better team techically but these guys will press like they did till the end. I wouldn’t feel confident with Serbia playing Finland on Monday like i said even Georgia im worried about. 20 years ago we would look at these teams as a walk in the park.
Turbo srbo, your country is a SHIT hole and absolutely irrelevant…on par with Moldova.
@mali ante. Why so bitter? Read the above posts and you have everyone saying the same thing! Reality is you guys SUCK! We suck too but I guarantee we don’t lose to shitty Finland at home!!!LOL!!
The pattern is that if the players don’t like the coach they stop playing hard. They did then same shit with the last 2 coaches as well
Lmfaoooo Serbs here communicating…..we are greatness
@Turbo Srbo We didn’t look good against Austria either. I know we are still in a good position to qualify direct but after yesterday’s game im not feeling confident even against Georgia. Croatia imploded in the last 4 games something is going wrong ,we dont have that killer instinct that we used to have. Before the hateful comments come my way I have mixed parents Serbian and Croatian and i love the culture of both.
Zlatko dalic, really? wtf savez
You have got to be kidding me with this appointment. Haha..Please tell me I’m not the only one who has no clue who this guy is.
We are up shits creek without a paddle.
The inmates continue to run the asylum.
I wanted krunoslav jurcic just for the shit storm
Dalic is only a peg above Mamic’s brother
Our new coach :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zlatko_Dali%C4%87
Almost as much as your mother turbo…almost.
I hear she can suck a golf ball through a garden hose.
Don’t you have anything better to do than being a troll?
I feel sorry for you…but moreso your mommy.
You guys SUCK!!!!!!
Zlatko Dalic?? Who is he?
Zlatko Dalic is the new guy
It’s official…Zlatko Dalic replaces Cacic.
Effing autocorrect. ‘Infecting sole’ lol
Injecting some new blood is what I meant!
@ Soul Champ
Something definitely needs to change.
The status quoted isn’t cutting it. Sadly and with this group given the injuries we have, it’s tough to figure exactly what that is. I don’t think we move Modric from his true natural position but he needs to have more opportunities to move forward so it might be our only option. I also think infecting sole
new blood is a must. Rog plays hard and seems like the type that would bleed for us…we need more of that mentality!
Playing Kramaric up front is also our best option. I really don’t know what to do with Rakitic. He’s been so disappointing that other than benching him, he has to play behind Krama.
We lack another winger with pace and miss Pjaca. At this time we just don’t have options. Agree with what you said about Vlasic, could absolutely use him!!
Either way I hope we make it through this…positive vibes are needed and none of this constant negativity!!
Nema vise Čačića !!!
Wow.
HNS = BNS
B for Balkan and BS!
Davor “ super Balkanac” Šuker.
Šuker has literally and monetarily gotten FAT off our HNS. Čačić hire was Balkan bargain basement. You get what you pay for.
Monday will be interesting. If we fold then the death of BNS will go with it.
If the players rally to form and produce a result then we move forward into November.
@ American Hrvati
To see USMNT win 4-0 against Panama, led by a 19 year old dynamic #10 in Christian Mate Pulisic, is mind blowing.
On the same day when we cannot beat Finland at home with World Cup qualification on the line.
Have not seen a nogometaš attack the final third since Boksic, Boban or Prosinečki.
Vlašić can start and score for Everton but can’t play against Finland ? U21 more important than World Cup qualifying?
We need a number 10 !
Play Modrić up there and let the other number 8’s sort it out.
I know Modrić is not a “10” and the best 8 in the world but he is are only hope and he is our captain.
You are going to need TWO goals in Ukraine to secure draw or god forbid a WIN!
Throw something different at Ukraine. Our status quo has been a status low.
Bosnia must lose and Greece must not win tonight for a draw in Kiev to be enough.
However, I’m fed up of this all. I lost interest in club level football about a year ago…now i’m losing interest in it all.
Cacic is out, supposedly there’s video around the 80th minute of Modric and Subasic yelling at Cacic
Kek is probably going to go coach Slovenia.
Brozovic is out for Ukraine
I’m sorry BZ but what were you watching? Many here say pivaric was one of the bright spots. Had 2-3 beats zipped in a few low balls, even by letting the ball over ( he was expecting vida to get you should never expect shit) perisic 4 pivaric 2? That’s bullshit perisic was MIA.
Vrsaljko? wow. He was the worst player on the pitch he was losing the ball without even being pressed. And you think he was better than pivaric, deflected or not he put that pass in. Pivaric had more dribbles than our forwards
Nema vise cacica….
1)Who knew Operation October was going to feel like open heart surgery! (iggy)
2)We needed to get punched in the mouth, although maybe not this many times.
3)Ukraine game is our WC, so instead of pouting, get pumped and enjoy. If we lose, so be it, it is only soccer.
4)If we beat Ukraine, we will definitely get a second place. This team needs two meaningful playoff games if we are going to do anything in Russia anyway. Perhaps with a new coach.
5)I’ll say it again, we need to play with 3 back, or move Perisic to LB. When your overlapping wingbacks are Pivaric and still rusty Vrsaljko, just a waste to play 451, especially against inferior opponents.
Ratings:
Modric-9, What can you say. Can’t really ask for more offensively and defensively.
Vida-7, Solid D, and almost scored again.
Mandzukic-6 first half pressure key to us regaining possession. Good flick ons but nothing came of them. Only player with a +1 plus/minus.
Vrsaljko-4 couldn’t control the ball several times on the slippery pitch. Did well defensively. Srna was so good at trapping, but we were spoiled.
Rakitic-4 Pedestrian. Too many bad passes, and movement no longer there.
Perisic-4 Went for spectacular when not needed. Was provided the most opportunities, but did not produce.
Kramaric-4 Surprisingly disappointing for me. Had several bad touches.
Mitrovic-4 Played very Lovren like, but nearly gave away a goal on a horrendous back pass.
Rog-2 Squandered several last third opportunities in the short time he was in the game, including the one we scored on (we were lucky to get the ball back).
Pivaric-2 Responsible for the equalizer. Can’t go right, looks like a scrub at the local pick up game when ball gets caught up in his feet. As usual, left wide open as Perisic commands so much defensive awareness, and still didn’t produce (his pass on our goal was blocked, so not going to give him credit for the pass.)
Brozo-1 Wow. Just bad. Out of position on right, but he really did suck.
Cop- 3, can’t believe we have so many injuries that Cop is subbing on when we are up 1-0!!!
Subasic-1 did nothing good, and keeps letting us down when the other team gets a late chance. He is so lucky we over defend.
Sure pog. Pjaca brings speed a toughness like someone mentioned earlier in the week. He the closest thing we got to our gennaro gatuso. Always need a guy like that!
Agreed about Pjaca. We had no difference makers on our bench. Throughout the game I was thinking who could we bring in off the bench and the only guys I wanted to see were Pjaca or Kovacic.
Sorry duped that last one obviously.
Again miss pjaca badly. So sad.
Again miss pjaca badly. So sad.
How does Iceland defeat Turkey 0:3 on Turkish soil fishy we did that once for Euro qualifiers. Turkey had a foreign manager it does not work out everytime. Ukraine could be our jinx team we missed out on the 2010 World Cup when they were in our group with the 2:2 home draw and 0:0 away draw. Maybe we are not playing good because we have many great individuals not a star team just a team of stars. Argentina is in danger of missing the World Cup with them needing an away win. Imagine the World Cup without Messi a global superstar I don’t think FIFA will allow Argentina to miss the World Cup. Modric knows this will be his last World Cup if we make it so he will put in a big performance as for the others I can’t say the same thing.
And just to add Dario is well connected throughout europe especially Italy. We need a friggin coach for goodness sake!
Nobody want to answer to fat suker. His term is up time is done. Dario simic i tell you will fix this nightmare for us! He don’t give a fuck. He the young buck of them all.
We can hire Zoran Mamic.
His team is currently 2nd place in the UAE Gulf League.
Not bad.
At a loss for words right now. I can’t believe it has come down to this. Man, world class players and this is the way it’s left. Just not understanding why scoring is such a problem. I miss Olic and Srna. Let’s hope for a good result on a Monday and also in the 2 game playoff.
Considering we fire our coaches right before the end of our qualifying cycles and need to hire coaches in a knee-jerk fashion overnight, it definitely reduces the quality of coaches available.
Just say we squeeze through past Ukraine, and still fire Cacic…who on Earth would take over the coaching reigns for us prior to the playoff round?
(assuming we don’t throw crazy money at someone)
It’s guaranteed going to be someone heavily inexperienced random former player (like Petar Krpan) or someone from the old guard (Cico Kranjcar). I actually like Cico, lol, but my point is that we are just better off sticking with Cacic and make that coaching change closer to the closing of the season (after Bilic gets fired, Kek and Prosinecki quit, or some random Italian coach wants to collect cheques coaching a country that’s a short drive from his house).
you really think Kek would take the job? There is a reason nobody worth a damn takes the national team coaching gig. They know Mamic runs the show and Suker answers to him. Why would any coach who has any standing want to be part of that?
I’m not saying this to start a fight on this site, just stating the obvious.
I’d be happy with Kek!
If and when we fire Cacic, I am hoping that Matjaz Kek takes over.
I doubt he would, but I also doubt he will achieve anything more with Rijeka. They likely won’t repeat as HNL champs and coaching Croatia will give him more exposure to extend his career outside of Croatia and Slovenian borders.
He would be the best choice (assuming we aren’t quatripling our coaching staff salary)
Read articles and then go to comments and see what people write…it’s pathetic!
This Croatia vs Ukraine game (with both teams needing a win) is gonna be tense.
I would hope that both teams will go all-out, but I think they will both want to play the counterattacking game, and not take the lead on gaining possession. Ukraine is really just a poorer man’s version of us. Doesn’t mean they can’t beat us, especially since they will have a crowd on their side.
Modric was, by far, the best player on the field today.
Same goes for all our games during this shitty spell.
He’s literally out there by himself.
After reading several articles and looking through the comments, I have to say that I’m really depressed saddened to see how people lash out at Modric. I feel the media and Hajduk supporters in particular have been slandering him to the point where it’s becoming unbearable. I see people blaming him and Cacic…I agree everyone deserves blame but at the end of the day it’s the players that have looked poor. Ever since the game before the summer break, we looked terrible. It didn’t matter who started and who didn’t, we’ve always had a better team on the field vs our opponents and each game we played far below expectations.
If the new thing is going to be to shame Modric then I’m out…I won’t support that. Most of the haters have no fucking clue what goes on with the politics of soccer and yet everyone tends to be an expert….so many people speculate and are so sure they know who’s a motherfucker and who isn’t and in the meantime, we are hurting our own team and flag! From the protest during games to the swastika and the constant blaming of Mamic/Suker and now Modric, we are self destructive and self hating…I’m embarrassed!
We all agree Mamic has to go but we all know Croatia is a corrupt nation politically…everything there involves favours…people are hungry, politicians are dirty and we expect the HNS to be different. When was it ever not this way…Markovic was corrupt too!
These fuckers calling out Modric make me sick! Only in Croatia will a super good person be ridiculed as he is. I’m ashamed of this and am tired of these fucking snowflakes blaming everybody just to take attention away from their own shitty ways!
Anyone find more evidence of Mamic shooting himself…how’s that investigation going?
I’m in a baaaad mood! We tied a shorty team but Modric isn’t the problem…I wish these people attacking him would fuck off!
Oh gee we suck. What we should be talking about tonight or tomorrow wherever you are in the world is should we meet in zagreb or mosvow or st. Petursburg. But no we talking about this. This group should have been locked today if not before.
Face it we suck hard=U=
LAknat always right comes to release your anxiety as I told you before, the scoreboard will be 1-0 for Ukraine. Don’t make a stupid calculation, just from now on you guys gotta lift me up and become The mighty coach LAknat bandwagon for Croatia National Team.
If we gotta count on Cyprus and Greece and Bosnia and god knows who we in deep shit no matter what. Team lacks leadership and world class coaching. Ciro where are you?
Good breakdown mile.
If it is just the tie that is needed, cro navijaci (fans for the diaspora) can take a step back from the ledge as cro has a nearly 65 percent chance of winning or tying
If Croatia needs a win though?! Much tougher odds
If we tie we are not 100% in. We would need some help.
As long as Greece doesn’t beat Cyrpus and Bosnia doesn’t beat Belgium AND we tie or win we make the playoffs.
Highly unlikely Bosnia wins tomorrow and Cyprus is at home.
Haven’t looked at other options.
It’s still a little early to figure out what needs to be done to avoid being the worst 2nd place team, as three groups still play two games. It will be clearer tomorrow. But, there is a realistic chance that even if Croatia tie Ukraine and get second place, they would still be the worst second place team.
With a tie, Croatia would have 12 points that count in the best second place record (the matches against the last place team don’t count, so the Kosovo 6 points aren’t recorded). There are already 4 groups that have clinched more that 12 points. If Sweden beats Luxembourg tomorrow, they will be at 13 points. Then it would come down to three other groups:
Scotland is currently second in group F. If they beat Slovenia, they get second and have 14 points. If they tie or lose, second would probably go to Slovakia, who play Malta. They would have 12 points as well, but have a goal differential of +5. Croatia’s would be +2. So it’s likely Croatia would lose out to this group with a tie against Ukraine.
In Group D, if Wales beats Ireland, they get second with 14 points. If they tie, they also get second, but would have 12 points. Their goal differential would be +2, same as Croatia. Right now Wales is 7-5 and Croatia is 6-4 in goals scored/against so Wales have a one goal advantage. If Wales/Ireland was 0-0 and Croatia/Ukraine was 1-1, they would have identical 12 points and 7-5 goals scored/against. The next tiebreaker would be fewer yellow cards. Croatia currently has 4 fewer yellow cards than Wales. With Croatia’s lack of scoring, it’s likely they would lose out to this group as well.
Here’s the big one, Group H – Bosnia and Greece fighting for second. We need both of them to drop points tomorrow. If Bosnia loses to Belgium and Greece ties Cyprus, they will be tied for second in the group going into the last group match. But the maximum second place points they can get is 11. If Bosnia ties tomorrow and wins Tuesday against Estonia, they would have 12 points and a better goal differential than Croatia.
Like I said, tomorrow it will be clearer. If Bosnia and Greece both get good results tomorrow, Croatia may most likely need to win in Ukraine.
u know, i normally make videos on youtube of us being successful, like, our qualy campaigns,
anyway, usually, i download all the vids beforehand and plan the vid out – but i avoided it this time cos i had no confidence we would make it
like, i didnt want to invest time and effort if we arent into the wc anyway, and im worried those fears are correct, sigh
P.S. click my name for my youtube vids of HRV 😀 – lol shameless plug there
Slovenia win or tie vs scotland tomorrow is a secondary possibility
I hear ya iggy. But unfortunately thats the sad state of Croatia football. I had monday planned out. Not no more. Better things to do. Im fed up. If the hns don’t care why should we!
i mean, i haven’t looked at the standings and the calculations and frankly dont want to, so, a draw if bosnia and greece don;t win? does that give us play-offs ?
Someone needs to give a specific detailed calculation of what’s ahead
i just can’t – i can’t do it, im so sad and upset about this i can’t look lol
so can someone else do it
i just want to stress that my wife was formerly married to an icelandic guy and lived there so this has particular shittiness to me lol
i REALLY dont want to lose to iceland FFS – i mean get the fuck out of here with that shit iceland, fuck right off, le sigh
No fire, no intensity. Long for the days when teams feared an away game in Croatia. Home field is completely gone. Atmosphere blew today and has been for the last 2 qualifying cycles. Somethings gotta change.
@T.O. correct again!
I think if we had a world class coach…he would get more out of our world class players.
When i see Mandzukic, Rakitic, Perisic, Modric play for their clubs …i see world class players who look confident and capable in their roles on the team…
Yet when I see them all playing for the Repka they seem like lesser versions of themselves. Like all of them except for Modric ..seem to under perform ..more often than not. Its like they are suddenly amatures and dont know how to pass or score.
Then you’ll see guys like Kalinic step up and score goals and look like a superstar…among guys who should be taking the leadership roles.
By the way Subasic is not a good goalie. Im not confident in his abilities. Any good shot on net seems like he might not save it. Even he seems to perform better for Monaco than the Repka.
I think coaching has to be the key to get the most out of “world class” players.
@iggy. Only time I smiled about the truth troll calculations. I howled! Thanks iggy for making me smile on just a horrible day. @t.o. Croatia its coaching in my mind without a doubt.
Rakitic blows.
Is it the players fault or the coaching?
Maybe a little bit of both ..but i can say this …on paper we still have star players who definitely should be able to perform and ESPECIALLY be able to defeat a team like Finland (no excuses)
What i saw was no plan for attack. They have no solid plan to score goals. There is no strategy. They can work the ball around the top of the box…then its up to whoever has the ball to ‘try’ and figure something out. (Which 9 times out of 10 they dont do)
Its so frustrating.
I remember when their only plan of attack would be to run up the sides and cross the ball into the middle everytime and hope someone gets a head or a foot on it …but they dont even do that anymore.
Rakitic has never impressed me for the Repka. I really dont know what purpose he serves out there.
Can Croatia beat Ukraine? Yes? No? Maybe? …Who knows …do we ever know how the team will perform anymore? Lol
We can go with a draw as long as Greece and Bosnia don’t win
we need a win or help!!!
can someone work out what we need? i feel too sick to do it looking at this team
wait, on truth’s “mathematical calculations”, is it true we only need a draw? i dont think that’s right
All that matters is qualifying……that’s it. Doesn’t matter how. No one ever remembers the qualifying once the tournament starts.
Today they needed the win, yet we only play one striker up top. Why not go 4-4-2 with Kram and Mandžukić together?
Even if cacic is gone
What we gonna do in two days
Sure maybe that’s a spark we need i dunno
But who comes in
Call zuti! Or bilic can get out of England before he gets canned
My guy in the savez says cacic is out.
@poglavnik
Currently wer 4th seed with the septmeber rankings
Northern Ireland is on our ass tho
Mandzukic being injured for the Ukraine game is a blessing.
The reason why we are terrible in the final third, is because we are playing with 10-men the entire game on offense.
We do not utilize Mandzukic or Kalinic at all. We start them, but we do not feed them the ball from the wing, nor do we throw anything on net for them to pick up.
We never ever have played with these types of #9 strikers ever. In our best years, we’ve always had a technically gifted Suker type or Eduardo type who can create for themselves and play with the midfielders.
Kramaric needs to start as our #9.
Brozovic needs to be moved as Central Attacking midfield behind him (just as he plays at Inter).
We should have called up Vlasic to play on the RW, instead of forcing Brozo to play out of position.
We should have called up Fran Tudor to play in place of Vrsaljko if he continues to struggle with his fitness.
Kramaric is creative and links up well with our midfield.
He is the reason why we scored today, by creating the play and feeding Pivaric for that run. He will most likely start in that striker role, and we’ll benefit from it.
But it will be tough if we have Brozovic playing in that RW role, Rakitic checking out after 60 minutes, and Vrsaljko not being 100%.
i know I’m an idiot but I’m still holding out for a win in Ukraine, an Icleand/Kosovo draw, and an automatic qualification.
Otherwise we probably gonna draw an Italy or Portugal in the knockout round.
Ziva funny? When the f dis that ever happen? Like once a year he’d make a mildly amusing (at best) remark, and rhen repeat it like a thousand times for the next couple years after that. That bitch was nothing but a troll. May he rot
Idemo he was busy fixing a television set between questions. Be nice. Haha.
At the press conference Cacic said we were playing Iceland looooool
If we don’t make it nothing will change in the savez. A new coach a new puppet
Luka needs to call Carlo
Just bad all around.
What ever happened to Ziva Istina. His commentary was always funny during moments like this.
I hated the guy, but do miss his posts here.
2010 Croatia had many injuries and England
Threw match aganist Ukraine. Another thing fuck Spain and La Liga ruined Croatian passion
Throw down some bucks on Ukraine win
At least Ull make some money if we lose
Sounds shitty but may as well at this point
I can’t remember were we this shitty when we missed 2010?
I remember Ukraine screwing us
Who cares now. Play the mexico team we might win. On the fair side pjaca hurts which never should of fucking happened in Estonia. He is our best player. Damn it.
ok would u guys take the loss Monday and potential cleaning of hns or win and say we end up qualifying
I hate to sound like ziva now but short term pain or long term gain?
The team has no heart. We may have to start playing the young guys over these veterans who don’t play with any passion. Also, Cacic isnt helping either…
@ Idemo
Agreed !
At a certain point these matches are high stakes.
You need a World Class manager to produce world class results.
Very little growth with young players and stagnate veterans.
Manager has to inspire confidence and demand excellence.
Čačić is like a Jugo on marenda.
Šuker Getting FAT on HNS.
Monday ???
Can we tie and sneak into playoffs or do we finally turn the page on Šuker?
No Rakitic still has it, just he doesnt want to show it because he doesnt want to get hurt and not play for barca where his $$$
as much as the players are to blame it is the coach who is responsible for the players.
I agree 100% with The Truth……..Modrič far outclasses every other player on the team. It was all Modrič first half….offence and defending.
Rakatič has got to go. Should have been subbed at half time. The man cannot run or dribble anymore?
Man we suck but who cares fuck em!
looks like Mario is out
I hear you mr .black. we too slow and aging quickly before our eyes. Like i said earlier suker and cacic gotta go.
Our last 3 out games:
We played Iceland and we would finish them off if we would win: we lost 1-0.
We played Turkey and we would finish them off if we would we would win: we lost 1-0.
Now we play Ukraine; i’m sorry but I would be surprised if we don’t lose.
I got it mamic on the field Monday to lead us to the promise land of 2nd last 2nd place team!!
I wish if we didn’t qualify it was earlier on then least we could have played more kids to see what is what
A fitting national team for the country. worse than iceland. a little bit better than Kosovo.
2 wins for the Greeks gives them 19
@danny
Bosnia would have to beat Belgium tomorrow to force us to win against Ukraine
We ain’t gonna win. We are an aging squad slow quite reminiscent of the squad that failed for 2000 euros. Stuck with them too long. Same thing here. Cacic gotta go. He outclassed by a suomi coach. Shameful. Speed kills we gotta find it somewhere. Look at suomis tying goal all speed. Transition time has come.
Are u sure idemo with the other 2nd place teams? We may be last
@danny even with a draw we are in playoff.
Now I have to go back to work
Those ungrateful losers going to their mansions
welp. wer on the edge of not being a seeded team. based not he September Fifa ranking we are 4th of the list of 2nd place teams Norther Ireland is only 2 spots behind us. they lost yesterday. so we may squeak by 4th and avoid Italy and Portugal.
all depends on October ranking.
I suck at the scenarios but basically we win we are in playoff
Well like pog said least we get two more games in November
Vrsaljko Stache will be in full effect for Movember
Bosnia have Belgium tomorrow and Estonia after that, Estonia are not last placed and won’t be so they have a chance for 6 full points, but they will lose 6 full points from gibratlar
Kosovo for surprise win against Iceland
They got this
Oh well won for that play off hopefully
@danny
if Ukraine were out we would be through as turkey is out so no.
iceland 19 +7. (vs Kosovo) looking like tonight they will thump Kosovo
us 17 +9
ukraine 17 +6
Defenders mark Perisic closely and he has nothing else . He’s become predictable to defend
you know me as not a homer
but I do feel for modric. and mamic incident aside, I tip my hat to the guy
that guy has the least need to be out there, but seems to care and give the most
you can tell he’s constantly pushing to create knowing its not coming from anywhere else
as corluka once said, modric feels so much pressure playing for the national side that for him each game is worse than the champions league final
Vrsaljko has been disappointing. He can’t get around defenders to cross and makes stupid defensive decisions. At one point, late in the game he kicked one of Iceland’s long balls out instead of tracking it out of bounds. This kept Iceland’s pressure on us and a corner followed right thereafter. One or two additional quality, key players would have probably ensured victory in this game.
For us to get through we need a win. A draw will leave us with 12 points after kosovo’s 6 points are deducted. That will not be enough. BiH currently last of the second place with 8pts. Don’t know their result yet. That’s our only chance. In the end it won’t matter cos we’re going to lose on Monday
@slavnoac
even perisic is starting to look like one of those who will only preform for club. at times he was carrying us
I’ve never been more disappointed succer wise.. everything with the team is wrong
^^^ Go onto Wikipedia, I’m sure someone has update the 2nd place standings.
If the players look not to care, why should we? Agree with the poster above, its beak time from the national side. More important things to focus on in life.
Idemo,
I always felt Rog was tough and I had the inclination he could run at defenders…hes not that guy. He should be used as a defensive midfielder in my opinion.
There’s so much we saw today. Our best players are definitely not our best, except for Modric. The rest are bystanders.
Is ukraine out completely?
So you don’t think that Porno stache Heinz Vrsaljko should sit on the bench next match, anonymous (aka Ziva aka truth troll aka I’m a dumb serb half-turk fuck)….?
Whose got the math? Will we actually make one of the playoff spots or will our group be the last 2nd spot
I know there is lots to be dertermined still
Lol watch us draw Italy in playoff
ukraine motivated at bear minimum compared to us
Toronto Croatia, well said brother!
Zvinimir with the derogatory childish nicknames… very Ziva/Truth Troll style
give me Carlo or give me death!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I need a break from the repka. Too much stress and anger. Don’t even wanna watch the games vs Ukraine. We used to play with passion and pride. It used to be an honor to wear the Hrvatska kit. Emberassing.
Where the heck is corluka??
They don’t care They go to their mansions. They forgot about the selo
Pay ancelloti fir one game contract lol least the Guys will play to impres him
“Rezultat nije adekvatan”….Koala Bear….what the fuck?! Let’s find a new tv repairman, who is technically updated. This clown gives no confidence to the players. Oh, and Heinz needs to go immediately and permanently.
When Rog started i meant. If I was Modric , I would tell these guys to go fuck themselves. Modric a man amongst boys on the field. We miss Corluka, big time.
well Croatia got unlucky…. lats minute goals against Iceland, turkey, and Ukraine
but ultimately they aren’t undeserving of bad luck. when you are not dominant and similar to your opponents, you let these random events determine games
the rough probability of making the world cup now is pretty simple.
my model has win/tie/loss at Ukraine as follows. 25/40/35
since they just need a tie , they have a 65% chance of going to the playoff. where any fair model gives them right around a 50% chance of winning it
this one is easy –> .65 *. 5 = .325% chance of making the world cup
you can boost their percentage ever so slightly by a result of Iceland tie/loss , Croatia win…but I’m currently marking those odds low
its not that we are fucked it’s that we sucked 😉
Sorry guys , but it’s not the coaches fault. What the fuck was he supposed to do. You guys make me laugh , last week pivaric was the worse player in history, now he’s beckenbauer. You botched when right started against Spain on euros, now he’s the savior. On and on and on.
this team is missing the die hard try hards like srna, corluka, olic, etc…
@slavonac
I thought rog had a couple of hustle plays but I’m sorry dribbler or not he shit the bed on that fast break. there were two guys to his left pass the ball? I think saying he’s not a dribbler is very nice because what he did was give it away and shit the bed not much to do with dribbling
if Mario m can not go in Ukraine I would start rog next to modric and rakitic #10 and krama up top
if we come for the point we’re gonna lose. flat out.
if its 0-0 in the 70th we start defending we’r going to lose. flat out.
our only chance is to take the lead. start defending. and get scored on to tie.
something I’ve seen so many times with out team start defending an concede
beat ukraine? are u joking?
we can’t do that, we are gonna lose 3-0 in kyiv for sure
it’s over, dudes, sorry to say
Why, why dafuk does this mother fucking dog shit team always, always concede in the final minutes of the game, i hope they realize the game isnt over until the ref blows the final whistle!
Danny, we need to draw in Ukraine to get second place and go to the play-offs. First place is virtually gone. Given the team’s form I don’t think we can get the point.
@jarac beat Ukraine and we are in…..into the play offs Iceland have Kosovo only way we finish top is with Kosovo win/draw
Okay, the situation is obvious: we won’t finish first in our group. Our only chance is to draw against Ukraine (in Kiev) and then hope that we’re not the worst number 2.
Sad to see how this team underperforms.
To me Pivaric was the Man Of The Match until he didn’t pay attention and they scored 1-1.
Modric did great. He really wants to be important for Croatia. I feel bad for him.
People who were asking to have Rog and Kramaric in the team. Kramaric did close to nothing, Rog was somehow responsible for the 1-1.
To be honest: teams like Spain, Brazil or even Belgium would be Croatia away.
Who the fuck is the savez going to call on this time around to be the savour? Cacic surely won’t survive this!! Maybe Ciro or Kranjcar??? Fuck me, its a farce my friends.
@brkic
underachieving????????? I don’t think so. great on paper. great at clubs. just not that good at NT
Brkic, Cacic is no Capello…but the players have them selves to blame. Heartless display second half.
this team makes me absolutely sick, nisu normalni!!! I could care less about Ukraine game, bunch of bums!!!!!!!
Even if Pivaric blew the coverage he was the best player on the pitch. What can change between now and Monday? This coach can not do anything to make it better till than.
I hate to be this guy.
But the answer is to fire the coach right now. Not tomorrow. Create a shock.
Maybe now you all will agree that a TV repairman should not be managing this team. Most underachieving team in Europe at the moment.
If they play how they did the second half I hope they get eliminated.
We played like shit but honestly get rid of cacic I hate him now
What a joke of a performance no game plan no heart there goes our World Cup hopes we don’t deserve to be there anyway..Rakitic needs to go
I’m not even mad. It’s almost comical but let’s just end the suffering on Monday. Ukraine will put the final nail in our coffin.
fuck it beat ukraine and we are in….if we cant beat ukraine, cant beat finland, etc… then we deserve to stay home….
Pathetic that we need 15 corners to get a goal and even then it was an own goal….and other team needs about 3 corners to score one….we are terrible in the final third…..
I’m done too Toronto Croatia. Fed up.
2nd seems possibe. A win in Ukraine puts us at 20 pts. I’m too pissed to think about it. Laku noc momci..
Yes we can Danny it’s still in our hands
nah dannyj we’re out
we’re totally out and fucked
it’s over
someone hold me plz
I’m fucking done with this team
Hell no!!!! We will cop an absolute hiding in Ukraine. That’s it for a couple if major tournaments for us. No WC or Euros next time around.
I saw enough of Rog to see he’s a defensive player. Vrsaljko is terrible…Pivaric looks like a super star compared to him. Perisic has done nothing for us…for a long time…we have no leaders….zero!
Whose gonna do the math? Can we get 2nd
we’re fucked
i can’t believe this
we’re fucked
Exactly jarac
U know the longer we go like that the worse it is
So is 2nd place possible??
the commentator is right, we dont finish team off and it hurts us
And we save turkey lmfaooooooo
we always concede when we shut it down….ALWAYS…
Unbelievable! We have no one to blame but ourselves.
Suker isn’t impressed, i guess if we dont make it he cant earn the big bucks
…we can blame the coach but it’s the players that look like shit!
I love how modric turns on the engines right when its tied
Heads have to roll now!
Well i guess we have to play fir the win Monday
Jeez
Unreal
I guessed an equalizer in the 87th, it was 89th…what now, Koala Bear? WHAT THE FUCK……..?!
there you go , did you see cacic
Well, this is truly what we deserve after shutting down once we scored!
WE DESERVE THIS
YES FINALD!!!!! Fuck all these fuckers fucking idiots
Yup there ya go
Fuck me
…ok, now we know Rog is not a dribbler…
Well done Rog! Ruins a counter shits the bed
Rakitic pass to no one at 81:30ish sums up his career for repka
Sure love these 1-0 leads with all pressure on us said no one ever
@idemo,….hvala!
Mitrovic, quietly solid.
All 3 subs prior to the 85th?!
What team am I watching?..
why is rakitic still on the pitch?
All these defensive corner kicks can be proven dangerous
davor suker looks pi ssed
Judo Cop!
Vrsaljko top 5 idiot ….shield and let it go out
Vrsaljko giving dude about 20 yards to get his cross off. We to close down space much better right now.
need to fucking tighten up
Geeeez Rog to who
Lol pog
Your right thwy don’t have the hunger
They forget how it was to shit in an outhouse
Rog is rowdy. Throws his body into some tough situations for a little guy. Rakitic take note.
@mali ante
The Wikipedia has a ranking of worst 2nd place teams
My grandma plays better than Heinz Vrsaljko, and she even got a cuter stache…fuck it, get that clown off the pitch now…! Koala Bear, can you hear me…?!
how can these guys pla so good for their clubs but not for country i guess money talks
Vida was awesome in the first Die Hard!
Loved when Bruce Willis hung him by those chains.
Vida so ugly he cute
Doesnt matter who we get in a group if we do qualify, we have to beat the best to be the best but if we play like this like we are sluggish we wont get far
5-0 hurts the feelings of the opposition
I haven’t looked but how are we if we finish 2nd in the group?
Anyone know if we could be the worst 2nd place team in that scenario?
1-0 is the new 5-0
1-0 is our beatdown scoreline for this bunch.
Damn it!
That’s ok. They’ve got a 1-0 beatdown coming their way Monday.
Now Iceland up 3 nil! Our goal difference is getting diminished
Let’s all be honest about this. We’ve dominated play and actually have looked much better than the last two games. It’s tough to score against teams that bunker with out clinical finisher which we don’t have. Pivaric has played surprisingly well.
iceland are 3-0 up wtf
we’re fucked fuckkkk
45 year old jaromir jagr is better in soccer then vrsaljko
Ukraine just scored
That’s gotta be the earliest we’ve seen Cacic go to the bench in a meaningful game. What a revelation!
Mandzukic with an olic tap in goal lol
Rog and vida only guys sort of capable of kicking a cop
Rog needs to start no doubt! Said it for long time.
They’re still shit.. haha. First goal in open play since Jesus was a baby.
It’s pathetic, they are really struggling to score against FINLAND?! WTF?! Finally a goal. Just waiting for the equalizer now and Koala Bear will react in the 87th minute…
Slavonac I really think u would be a better coach then cacic
We will take the olic tap in
Only the 2nd chance on target though that’s crazy
Finland gonna open up let’s do this
WE FUCKING SCORED
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
…and there you go, Rog smashes a guy and doesn’t apologize…tako I treba….
pivaric so far is MOTM
Gooooooaaaaal!! Jeboteeeeeeeee!!!
Modric ball to start it all
YEEEEEEERRAHHHHHHHHHH! !!!!
FUCK YEAH!
FUCK ALL Y’ALL WE GOING TO RUSSIA!!
Goal mandza
Rog! What run
What did I say…”scramble”!!!
GAOLLLLLLL JEBIM TI ATER GOALlllllllll
These guys couldn’t hit the side of a barn.
fans singing “cacicu odlazi”
there you go soul champ. early sub and rog!
Looks like our guys are playing as if there was a huge rainstorm.
Rog in!
Kosovo brings their gypsy weaTher curses wherever they go
our game isn’t even I interesting tbh. boring ass soccer. albeit finland bunker.
any links? the first one gave me a virus
everything flooding. no Iggy if we win were still first.
There are 6 points for us to play for Iggy. Relax.
HUGE RAIN STORM KOSOVO UKRAINE LOOOL
dude, did u see the iceland score?
WERE OUT
even fi we wint his game we;re fucked
its over dude
the dream is over, the dream is dead
Going to have a fricking aneurism
turned off island turkey gonna watch Ukraine on the side now
Peter north least it was against Ukraine
We saving it for next game!!
@Jarac
Fuckin A!
We’re one goal away from that scenario.
I still believe!
VRSALJKO SHIT
Haven’t scored a goal in open play since the home game versus Ukraine. Enough said.
Ok guys let’s relax we still in this
All good
But 9 chances at goal and 1 on target in first half licks ass
They gonna play hard this half
we win, ukraine ties or looses and turkey ties or looses, we are in correct….
ahhh we’re out
barring a miracle, we’re out
sigh i can’t believe this shit
fuck off
Forget the WC. These players have no desire to play for the NT. What a pathetic first half. God help us on Monday in Ukraine!!!
holy fuck iceland is winning 2-0 ????
JESUS FUCK we’re in deep shit
@Poglavnik
and we beat Kosovo but they were clearly hungrier for a point. at this point I see no want from our team, till then I will assume everyone and everything is hungrier.
turkey goes all out vs. us then plays like shit against iceland
@Idemo
Ukraine drawing with Kosovo does not imply they’re hungry. No ones gonna blow us off the pitch. We just don’t score enough but we concede even less.
Are we the worst second place group like someone said
At least we might get a couple of extra games in November now! Is that a positive thought? Haven’t had many today.. Need to slow down my brandy pace.
Kramaric is itching to get close to goal but he hasn’t Hasan opportunity inside the box, nothing is directed at Mandzukic, Perisic is being closed down the left and we need players that can run at the defenders.
I think this next half we will score…at least I’m hoping we do!
everything in the air EVERYTHING
clearly they’re fucking taller and good in the jump…..we’ve had our best chance on a low cross. bait them out play around them
Iceland isn’t going to lose to Finland or Kosovo (whoever they play). This group will be the worst 2nd place finisher. Either beat Finland or don’t even bother going to Ukraine.
Ya no way we get anything in Ukraine with this effort
Will need some luck or Putin sabotage
idc if Ukraine is tied against Kosovo even if it ends like that…. those fucking boys actually play hungry…. these fucks…..love talking about how their confident how they’re happy how we think we can do it
This site may as well close down if we don’t make it
Gonna be a sad place
Ukraine is going to terrorize this team from the first half.
I’m keeping my ears peeled for the next Rakitic rock throwing party.
I don’t think these guys give two shits. Don’t see the urgency out there.
I know Finland is bunkering but seriously, we should be able to find a way through. Have we even had more than a single shot on target yet?
Iceland is going to win this group. Haha
Slavonac, spot on. Little Heinz is lost at the mall…forgot he’s playing a decisive match for Vatreni….Koala Bear will react in the 87th minute…just wait for it…
Nice on Kosovo
Once again vida with our only legit chance!!
Vida trumps all our forwards these days
What a waste of time.
ISN’T THIS FUN?!!
Kosovo/Ukraine nula – nula at the half.
Finland sucks man
I know they play d but damn we got to break through
No Jb
That feeling when you’re 4 years old and lose your mom at the mall…that’s Vrsaljko today…he’s a damn nightmare and lacks confidence!
Brozovic looks like he drank 3 pots of coffee…zero offensive talent!
Poglavnik, I heartily agree about #7…plays like a midfield God for Barca…plays like a moron for Vatreni…
We keep tying to fly balls in Aganist a team who is clearly better than us in the air and taller
If this game ends nil-nil and Iceland wins are we out?
Iceland up 2-0
Turkey fucking us for centuries
Suker 2.0 looking out of his element as usual.
Truth troll run a simulation with our Mexico b squad with modric in the game
Danny
a tie or Turkey win
Probably because Toronto and Vancouver are full of Hrvati.
lol and starts POG
How does #7 in checkers play for Barca?!
It boggles the fucking mind..
Idemo what’s ideal in that game?
I have to say Canada always seems to have more cro games on tv then most of the other diaspora it seems
Iceland up 1-0
Just got home
looking good since I started
Vrsaljko looks so queer
Much better watching in hd on my 65 inch oled
Then trying to watch on the computer
3 modrics>better then our whole squad
Expecting a substitution in the 87th minute by Koala Bear, after the players are dead tired and Finland has equalized… Fuck me,…
Fuck me! Cannot get a single stream to work! Feel like a spastic… anyone got anything that works?
Fuck me behind, can Koala Bear sub Heinz anytime soon? I don’t want to see him one more second on the pitch, German porn star stache….get the fuck off, moron
Perisic switches flanks nice move and shot
Well said Sepp!
Pivaric is our best player on the pitch in 23 minutes
It’s coming boys it’s coming. We don’t look too bad.
Wer pressing this is good
Where are the people on here that considered him one of the best fullbacks in the world?
I would take a clone of Pivaric on that side.
Vrsaljko is lost!
Raki, Brozo and Sime are not cutting it on the right. We should concentrate attacking on left flank.
Finland is balls but at least they’re letting us play.
This team is 2nd rate. Painful to watch.
Starting to think sime might not be what we think he is and the form excuse is gonna get old
Sime “Heinz” Vrsaljko….looking like he belongs in a 70’s German porn movie, not on a football pitch…get the fuck off, bitch.
Vrsaljko TERRIBLE TOUCH with no one on us
Pivaric lookin alright.
Rakitic still sucks.
And Vrsaljko’s stache > Cacic’s stache, all day everyday!
Vrsaljko needs to get off the pitch, he’s a little bitch. Put on Rog, just anyone but Vrsaljko. Blew two chances already within 10 mins. And where the FUCK is my homey Strinic? Should be playing today….! Koala Bear, can you hear me?
omg that was the best move ive ever seen pivaric pull lmao
Vrsaljko on form burries it
Chopper I posted a Reddit link full of good streams
fuck im PISSING myself gosh
Also, I will shoot “the truth” aka “Ziva” aka “I’m a dumb trolling serb”….
Tell me, Ziva…. where do you live? I will gladly put a bullet in your skull..
Anyone got a decent stream?
If we don’t win tonight, I will travel personally to Zagreb and shoot that clown Koala Bear Cacic….!
Beat me to it!
Playstations have come a long way.
F off truth troll. Take your play station results elsewhere. PlayStation says anything could happen. Brilliant analysis Oracle of troll
My models are now putting Croatia at 60/30/10 in terms of won/tie/loss probability
There chance of making the world cup remains only at 40 percent because it is so contingent on a result in Ukraine
The wind is so hard The water from the sprinklers is blowing everywhere hahaha
Time is almost upon us! Ganga i hope you correct bro!
@ Slavonac
TOOOOOOOOOOOO ….
MANdzukic has been starved for service.
Feed the BEAST early and often.
U boj …
my man pletikosa in a mid life crisis with the haircut
hrt*
Croatia will win 3-0 today
heres a few streams
https://www.reddit.com/r/soccerstreams/comments/74pcog/1845_gmt_croatia_vs_finland/
hit stream in there as well
ill try to get a HD stream here in a few
Lineup for the game:
—————Mandz————–
–Perisic—-Kramric—-Brozo–
——–Rakitic——Modric——-
–Piv—-Vida—-Mitrovic—-Vrs–
—————-Suba—————–
no surprises in the line up, looks like we predicted that one
perisc and pivaric…sorry
brozovic
kramaric
mandzukic
mitrovic
modric
rakitic
subasic
vida
vrsaljko
heh, i was just watching my old cro vids of the other situations
it’s worth mentioning that – to qualify for euro 2016 we neded to win the last 2 games, v bulgaria and malta
and even then we needed a hand from italy
just mentioning, that was actually more difficult than this one
i mean, dont get me wrong, im still pissing myself
@stef
ukraine is not a walk over game and it is also must win for them
If we get service into the box, we’ll win, if we don’t…it’ll take an individual effort to score through a quick move and shot or some scramble type goal. We have guys that can score but we need the crosses into the box to get those chances.
you must be joking abut asking for badelj over brozo
here, im calling it – brozo is gonna score 2 goals and we win 3-0
I really hope Brozo doesn’t start even though he had an amazing game for inter, unless he is playing central he should not be starting, I prefer badelj over him. Maybe Kramaric or Rog on the right flank, someone who can run behind the back line.
How sad has it become that all of us can’t see Cro beating Finland or Ukraine? Absolutely pathetic!
Continually knowing that they will either blow it today or Monday makes me sick. Everyone should be shot in this organization. With the talent this roster has they should be hammer teams like thsese. Disgusting.
I say we just open right up for both games. Just play mega offensive. Yes there will be goals conceded as a result, but theres so much quality up top and MF to score more goals than either Ukraine or Finland.
Our top players play with quick/industrious players around them with their clubs.
Modric sprays the balls to Bale and Ronaldo, with Casemiro for defensive cover to support him.
I am all in with Marko “Robo” Rog tonight !
Let him run with these Vikings and let Modrić carve them to shreds in the final third.
Whom ever is NOT running with purpose needs to be subbed immediately.
Operation October is about legacy.
These dudes need to come with their best and win a couple of big matches in a row.
U boj …
Canadain in Scottsdale for 6 days, any recommendations on a bar that might show the Ukraine game???
My favourite player Vida will carry us in the back and probably score the only goal.
I’m expecting a win today, but not too sure about our attacking threat at the moment Hoping Antonia Milic gets a chance as he is playing well for his club. Predicting a 1-0 win, with an early goal. Would be nice to Marko Rog in the XI as well, very dynamic player, which is something were lacking.
Ya our defense has been our supposed weak spot for years but has got the job done quite well last couple years
^ ^
Very cool!
Ajmo momci!!!
On another note…Filip Hrgovic is going pro with a top promotions company.
Cardiac arrest coming. Keep those defibrillators ready!
Shitting my pants already.
if you look at our midfield and attacking players; Mandzukic, Perisic, Kalinic, Rakitic, Brozovic, Kramaric, Modric, kovacic….Those are some pretty damn good players, yet we struggle to score for some reason.
But if you look at our back four, its pretty much a shit defense yet we never allowed more than 1 goal in the past like 40 NT games lol. (except against that estonia game)
Looks like Slovenians coach is stepping down; first on the list to replace him is Kek
I wish we could say some are trying to sabotage games for money but most have money
Like someone on xtra time said
We have starters or key players on
Juve Madrid Barcelona intermilan
These guys are scoring nicer and nicer goals these days
Remember when all we could hope for legit was an ivica olic tap in
Our offense has to have some click for Petes sake
Exactly Danny, we have to perform
Any more news on starting line up?
Obviously a shit pumping would be nice but I don’t see them rolling over. They saw Iceland do damage to us and are still playing for pride and transfers
Would be nice for early goal and if we could win like 2-0
I don’t think Kosovo gonna get blown away. They are playing hard till the end. U know they want a win
Come on man we were legit being talked bout last year going al way in euros. We have to win this out
So a draw Iceland and turkey today would be ok or we prefer an Iceland loss?
It’s so tight
Man just one point which we should have had against Iceland would make us so much more comfortable right now
Let’s hope Kosovo does us a msssuve solid and takes a point for us
Game can be seen in us with fox soccer match pass.com….you’ll have to sign up for the free trial…only on PC mac Android n iPhone no Roku or fire TV support
Finland is playing for nothing- pound them early and get the goal and they’ll fold like a dirty shirt stained with slivovitz.
Rain has kinda stopped light sprinkle, drop in temp can be felt 50 ish f…..puše bura
right. Practically speaking, 1st or 3rd for Cro is most likely. The only “realistic” way we can finish 2nd in the end is if both us and Iceland win today, and then we don’t get full points against Ukraine on Tues.
(unless some really crazy shit happens, like we lose today, but win in Kiev…. or Ukraine doesn’t get full points today against Kosovo, etc)
4 points will get us first place unless Iceland beats Turkey today in Turkey (which is unlikely due to Iceland’s terrible road record).
However, if we lose in Ukraine, we are almost guaranteed third.
It’s least likely we finish second. Really just first or third.
Raining hard in Rijeka?
Damn. We need to move our NT games to Hvar.
It’s raining hard
It’s sprinkling, rains on the cards
Just a reminder to my fellow Canucks, the game is on Sportsnet.
A decisive win would be ideal but I’m feeling uneasy about this one. Another 1-0 win in the cards?
@maminjo
only way I can get behind it lol
https://www.bljesak.info/vijesti/flash/poruka-kataloniji-iz-mostara-mi-smo-sljedeci/214577
yeah i mean, we need 4 basically.. we SHOULD be right if we avoid defeat in kyiv, it’s not guaranteed but i think it should be correct
and yeah agree streams pop up before kick off
im on the vodskies already but im gonna get up before game and continue vodskies cos there is no way i can deal with life sober whilst being a fan of the cardiac croats lmao
i get SO Stressed and nervous every time we play, honestly i dont even know if it’s worth it LOL, all this anxiety and tension!
nvm if turkey draw today and win last game they have 18 we draw and win we have 20.
1.win today
2.dont lose to ukraine
3.Iceland turkey tie tie
4.hope Iceland doesn’t pound Kosovo.
me ^
so what do we need in turkey Iceland, It seems any result leaves us needing a result in Ukraine. if we only get four it just constantly looks like it comes down to GD and 3 way tie
ill have some streams before kick off, should be HD
@ Iggy
He looks like Ante “the Koala Bear” Čačić .
ahhh fuck Cacic still has that weird half-beard thing??? WE”RE FUCKED THEN.. DAMN someone give the man a razor ASAP or we are DOOMED
http://premierleague-lives.com/live/
here I give you for a decent link to watch
and I warn you that the score will be 1-1
don’t cry over what happens later
because I already told you the fact!