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Croatia face Wales from Gradski Vrt in Osijek Tuesday night in their last World Cup 2014 qualifier of the year. This will be Croatia’s seventh time playing an international match in Osijek, where they have never lost since 1996. The Vatreni have four wins and two draws at Gradski Vrt, which includes a 4-1 win over Latvia in World Cup 2002 qualifying and a 0-0 draw versus Estonia in Euro 2004 qualifying. The other four matches were friendlies, with the last being against this same Wales side in May of 2010, where Croatia won 2-0.
Although anything less than three points on Tuesday would be an absolute catastrophe for Croatia, manager Igor Štimac can still get a result while being responsible for future qualifiers, which includes Croatia’s next game after Wales, an emotional confrontation vs. Serbia on March 22nd, 2013.
Starting defensive midfielder Ognjen Vukojević has already been ruled out of the Wales match due to a yellow card suspension. And with starters Josip Šimunić, Nikica Jelavić, Darijo Srna, Vedran Ćorluka and Luka Modrić all sitting on one yellow card going into Tuesday’s match, Štimac needs to be smart in his starting XI selection. Niko Kranjčar and Gordon Schildenfeld also have a caution to their name.
Should any of the above mentioned Croatian players receive a yellow card in the match against Wales, they would be ineligible for the Serbia match in March. Wales is no walkover, however, Croatia should have no problem taking care of business with a few key starters taken out of the lineup. As long as the Vatreni can stop Tottenham Hotspur star Gareth Bale on the left side, the Welsh should not have any solid looks at goal. Bale has scored all three goals for Wales this qualifying campaign: a splendid free kick vs. Serbia and two goals against Scotland this past Saturday; a penalty kick and a world-class strike from outside the box to win it 2-1.
Because Croatia needs to be wary of yellow cards, a revamped starting XI should be introduced vs. Wales. Dejan Lovren should return in place of Vedran Ćorluka at center-back and Domagoj Vida needs to replace captain Darijo Srna at the right-back position. With Vukojević out and Modrić on a yellow card, Štimac should elect a two-man center midfield which consists of new Hamburg signing Milan Badelj and Hajduk Split youngster Josip Radošević, who played well in his first game for Croatia vs. Belgium. Jelavić and Mandžukić should take a seat in order to make way for Eduardo in a 4-2-3-1 formation which would see Croatia control ball possession. The two Croatian frontmen haven’t been receiving proper service as of late anyways, so a more technical approach with Eduardo, who scored two goals vs. Switzerland last time we saw him, should work. If this starting XI can’t get the job done, there would be plenty of firepower available off the bench.
And for you Croatian fans that were unhappy with Croatia’s past two performances versus Macedonia, you should be ecstatic that they earned all six points in the two matches. This quasi-journalist says that Macedonia will take points off of Belgium AND Serbia this qualifying campaign. They may not win, but a draw in either Skopje or on the road will be in the works.
Croatia needs to grab three points in Osijek without any key player being suspended for the Serbia match and World Cup 2014 qualifying should be considered an absolute success up to this point.
My starting XI vs. Wales:
Eduardo
Perišić-Rakitić-Kranjčar
Badelj-Radošević
Strinić-Šimunić-Lovren-Vida
Pletikosa
As long as Vida can keep physical with Bale and receive help from one of his defensive midfielders, Wales should not see a solid look at goal on the day. It has also been rumored that fans in Osijek could walk out of the stadium if Sammir sees the pitch.
Kvartuc, you are seriously picking Eduardo over Jelavic and Mandzukic? That is laughable.
Kranjcar to start? I know its Wales but your overly concerned with the yellow cards being carried. Your lineup gives Wales way too much of an opportunity for something other than a loss. You have to field your strongest lineup in this match, period.
Nisi ni ti. Lako je srat iz udobnosti tvog podruma.
mozda i nije. Ali covik nije svetac
Objasni zašto si ga svrstao među ratne profitere. Ustvari, potkrijepi svoje tvrdnje nekakvim dokazom. To što su se neki časnici, kako ti tvrdiš, okoristili ratom nije dokaz da je to radio Gotovina.
I am grateful for what Gotovina did on the battle fields in Cro and BiH. I am not doing anythign to his reputation. I can separate what he did on the battle field with his actions outside the battle field.
Assumption, as you should know, is the mother of all f*ck-ups. It appears you are learning your history from the pages of EPH again. In fact, your favorite publications -JUtarnji list, SD, Globus (all of the EPH consortium)- led the media/propaganda war against General Gotovina within RH. Backed by MI6. One of the goals of the anti-Gotovina (anti-Croatian) media barrage was to lower him in the eyes of the Croatian people by declaring him a thief – so to tarnish his hero status.
Gotovina isn’t a war profiteer. You have now gone on to claim he is a thief; using the knowledge you picked up from JUtarnji list that you conveniently fail to cite. May I remind you, you have already been caught “citing” JUtarnji list, word for word, and pushing it on this website as your “insider” knowledge. You’re a clown and a troll.
As for Gotovina being a thief, he was locked up in France on trumped-up charges by the Leftist gov’t of Francois Mitterand. His French citizenship was never revoked; moreover, he was issued a brand-spanking new French passport while your favorite publications were claiming otherwise.
Therefore, Ziva, if you have fallen victim to Yugoslav propaganda, don’t spread it here or anywhere else as if it were the truth. Get your shit straight first. And cease tarnishing the name of the man that is almost solely responsible for you being able to safely reach the selo that your parents left decades ago.
I think I’m going to stop posting in this site because of all this garbage!
Mitch,
I’m with you!
Who is berating me????? Who is calling me out??? No cowardness here. I will debate anyone on anything. Sometimes I just dont see all the posts. You have to remember I have other activities going on in my fortified basement. Are you referring to the earlier post asking for my explanation about my Gotovina comments?
@nije bitno…….There is nothing to explain. Someone asked last week how his family was doing and I responded his family is probably doing OK because of the fact Gotovina was a general in the Cro army. Many high ranking officers stole and became good war profiteers and I assume Gotovina was the same way. So, his family is doing fine. Now, this doesn’t take away from his ability as a general. He did a great job during Oluja. But, Gotovina was also a thief. He did spend time in prison for theft and extortion. Or does that get overlooked on his resume
Now listen, I don’t want to derail this message board about political topics. So, if any of you want to continue (I don’t see why) then engage me on my twitter feed; @ziva_istina
I have yet to fully embrace twitter, but I rather discuss non-soccer related topics on twitter than derail this website that I appreciate so much.
One more thing…..ask yourself what have you done for Hrvatska today? Supporting the repka with Mamic, Stimac and Puppet Suker in charge does not help Hrvatska, in fact it damages Hrvatska by supporting those clowns.
Ziva is a total bitch in the word’s sense. I could not agree more while listening to doktor Prle berate Ziva on how he cowardly picks his battles, and then is a cricket when called out by more educated people than his sorry-ass dispora self.
Picture this now…Ziva hanging with friends in a circle, and them jock sniffing his soiled trowsers as he pontificates his wisdom as if he’s the Oracle of Delphi….however, someone smarter and filled with wisdom shows up to the man-panty-parade and dares bring a question….
He is automatically branded a trader, and ball-loving whore while Ziva exits stage right to refresh his drink.
I dare to call myself an educated Croatian schooled on many things American and Croatian. Ziva, while he does have a point here and there wins the broze for being the forum bully.
Jeban Pizda!
Honestly, where is the moderation on this site?
It is absolutely pathetic that such outward racism is allowed and that the troll is given a forum to participate in. Some might say it is is tacit approval of such views from the owners.
20 something year old Americans telling us how Croatian you all are. You should be ashamed of yourselves and furthermore realise why it is you don’t live in Croatia and why your parents or ancestors left their homeland.
I thought this was a site about Croatian sports not a forum for hate.
FWIW – as far as ability was concerned, Sammir looked worthy of the callup, which only leaves one possibility.
Sramota
@HAET,
I give up. Dont say that I didnt try. I understand the concept and most of your points. However, your approach is wrong, your material is irrelevant to the subject, you are a broken record and no one will listen or try to reason with you.
mind blown. hahahahahahahahaha wow
@Denis, you completely avoided what I said.
If Hitler sent all the male Jews to a West African nation, and sent all the female Jews to an East African nation, and said Jews could “marry who ever they wanted”, this wouldn’t result in the complete genocide of Jews? Do you understand this concept?
You realize genocide typically doesn’t get rid of an entire racial or ethnic group, hence there are still plenty of Jews, Armenians, Tibetans, Native Americans, etc.
@Yankie Doodle, actually, I’m not on this website everyday, haven’t even looked at it since last Thursday. Truth is many more people are on here much more often than me, I just stand out because my comments aren’t politically correct like EVERYBODY else. Why do you think that you are better than people you don’t know who disagree with your world view on an internet board? How do you know how “successful” I am? You and the others like you on this site may very well take MY successes to your graves when you become aware of them.
@Yankie Doodle,
Most of us just like to kill time. I do agree with you that there are plenty of yanks that like to pound that grb on their chest. I dont think that I’m one of those. I’m not here to prove myself and prove my Croatianess.
This website is full of the same 10-15 “Americans” arguing with each other on who is the biggest “Croat”……. Oh the irony.
What makes this even better is the fact that you have the most obvious troll on this site who manages to use the same bait every day and you all bite like you’ve never eaten before. I would mention his username but its pretty sad how often a single person can post on a website everyday, goes to show how much time he has and the successful life he lives…. probably similar to most of you.
-The obvious troll is obvious-
@nije bitno
Ziva has met his match dozens and dozens of times on this discussion board. Please don’t kid yourself.
Getting the last word in does not win you a debate or a discussion.
@HAET,
“since Croatia’s population is projected to decrease by 1.5 million in just a few decades”
What is your solution to this?
“strongly encourage intermarriage”
Who is encouraging and who is discouraging? People have a choice who they want to marry. No one in the states is forcing me to marry anyone outside of my race, religion, etc etc. I and only I decide who I am marrying. As of right now, I am engaged to a Croatian girl. Who people marry is up to them.
The Croatian people VOTED for the European Union. The majority accepted to open their borders to 27 European States. People from these states can buy property, live and work in Croatia legally. No one to blame here but Croatians living in Croatia. They voted for this.
“Has a stranger ever mistaken you for a non-white?”
Its up to you as an individual to decide who you will marry.
Also, you were not born in Croatia and dont live in Croatia. What gives you the right to decide what goes on in Croatia? Let the people there decide what they want to do with Croatia and who they want to marry.
haet,
Do you have anything else to offer than this garbage you spew everyday on this website?
And why do you people respond to him? I don’t understand.
“Denis – “If Eduardo has 11 kids, and they all looked just like him, but were born and raised in Croatia, speaking the language, eating the food, going to schools, and were raised in the culture, I’d be happy with them all starting for the team as long as the EARNED it, and didn’t buy it. They would all be Croatian and properly and honestly selected for the team. THAT’S what matters.” ~Colin
“I agree. Well said sir!””
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So your loyalty is to Croatian “culture” and Croatian land, but not to the people who created the culture and settled the land???
And you think you’re “righteous” saying what mommy professor told you to say? It makes you feel good being a traitor to your own people?
Why do you justify a future Croatia without people who look like Croatians or any other Europeans?
Do strangers ever guess your Nationality? Has a stranger ever mistaken you for a non-white?
Denis – “If Eduardo has 11 kids, and they all looked just like him, but were born and raised in Croatia, speaking the language, eating the food, going to schools, and were raised in the culture, I’d be happy with them all starting for the team as long as the EARNED it, and didn’t buy it. They would all be Croatian and properly and honestly selected for the team. THAT’S what matters.” ~Colin
“I agree. Well said sir!”
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I agree too! And since Croatia’s population is projected to decrease by 1.5 million in just a few decades, we can bring 1.5 million Africans into Croatia over the next few decades and strongly encourage intermarriage so that we will have a plethora of Eduardos for all future national teams!
FOCUS boys!
We are not Spain and Wales are not Andorra.
Bale is a top ten talent that single handedly score 2 goals. Ask Maicon about him.
Majke Boze! Sammir this, that and everything else.
I love Mandzukic and Jelavic BUT we do not play CROATIAN way with them together.
Ironic how we are KNOWN AS THE BRAZILIANS of Europe. And we are playing the English.
Modric plays no matter what. We need to control the ball on the ground and supply service to Mandzukic, like he gets at Bayern.
We need an athletic 11 who are ready to ball.
On a Geopolitical level in relation to Brazil WE ARE the third world country. Business wise it may serve us all to learn Portuguese.
Sve Najbolje!
From the post game interviews, Sammir acts like someone that has received something that doesnt belong to him that wasn’t earned by him. But at the same time, I dont blame him because for him to make $$$ and for him to play outside of Dinamo, dude will have to suit up for Croatia.
The thing at question here is ethics. The HNS obviously doesnt give a f… about ethics, whats right, whats wrong, etc etc. Its all “moneyball” for them.
Its not fair for the rest of the 10 players on the pitch if fans walk out or dont show up to support. However, that is the only way to make a change.
example: Sammir subs in around the 65th minute, all 10,000 people walk out of the stadium. This will make world news….
… and a bizarre story coming out of Croatia today…. as 10,000 fans walked out of a soccer game in protest of a brazilian player representing their country….
The Croatian national team represents us as a people.
Figo once said “anyone can learn to sing the national anthem. But only a select few can feel the national anthem.” in reference to Deco(a brazilian) playing for Portugal.
Children are an exception. Eduardo was 16 when he first stepped foot onto Croatia. He’s our adopted son. At 19 years old, Sammir couldnt point Croatia on a map.
“If Eduardo has 11 kids, and they all looked just like him, but were born and raised in Croatia, speaking the language, eating the food, going to schools, and were raised in the culture, I’d be happy with them all starting for the team as long as the EARNED it, and didn’t buy it. They would all be Croatian and properly and honestly selected for the team. THAT’S what matters.” ~Colin
I agree. Well said sir!
lol I cant believe some of you guys are still talking about Sammir.
Even Bilic said back in the day that he would consider calling up Sammir.
Lets pose a question…..who’s more Croatian?
A guy living in the states “Ziva” who states he hopes for the national team to lose if ONE player he doesnt like is on the team?
Or a Brazilian guy who lives in Croatia, speaks the language, has scored more goals in the Croatian league than anyone on this website talking shit about him….and received a call up to the National Team?
I agree that Mamic is corrupt…and sure, maybe he wants to make money off of Sammir…but still, Sammir isn’t the shittiest player in the world, and AT LEAST HE WANTS TO SCORE GOALS…unlike certain “Croatians” who would rather see the national team lose.
You decide, the lines are becomming very blurred arent they?
Doktor Prle says:
Looks to me that Ziva Istina could be the type of Croat that I call the twin-sister of the quintessential Yugoslav. This is what I mean:
The kind of Croat that, although he knows his shit and is very proud to be Croat, is also narcissistic and egotistical to such an extreme that he claims everything Croatian to be his own. And only his own. Everything needs his approval.
That type is the kind that hurts Croatia as much as the Yugoslav twin-sister. Many otherwise good and decent Croats suffer from that syndrome. It’s all about them. And if they can’t identify it with their shallowness and egotistical ways, they’re prepared to throw the baby out with the bathroom. I’ve seen the type many times, and I wage battle against them just as much as I wage battle with the Yugoslavs, Serbs, Muslims, Jews and any other that hate Croatia.
October 13, 2012 at 12:59 pm
Doktor Prle says:
And if in fact Ziva Istina literally meant what he wrote about General Gotovina, then there’s your evidence for what I wrote in my previous post.
He can’t stand Gotovina because Gotovina is a symbol of Croatia. The arch-type Croat and warrior. And Ziva Istina is more than prepared to tear him down.
No class.
Let him explain his comment, though. Provided that it was his comment; provided that he wasn’t parodizing or ironizing.
@ the Simunic debate
Most of you I hope realize that Simunic is one of our last resorts at CB. He’s seeing time now because A – Dejo Lovren has constantly been injured B – none of our young CB’s are really ready to step up
I have a ton of respect for Joe, the man is a legend for our NT, but when its time, its time and Joe can barely hang with decent NT’s without a glaring mistake, stupid card, etc. He’s definitely capable of a great game here and there, but I don’t get why Stimac are still trying to RELY on him game in and game out.
Yes, Scifo isn’t getting solid time and Dynamo Moscow, but for whatever reason, dude shows up when it comes to his NT time and dude was a rock in the back for us in the Euro.
If Eduardo has 11 kids, and they all looked just like him, but were born and raised in Croatia, speaking the language, eating the food, going to schools, and were raised in the culture, I’d be happy with them all starting for the team as long as the EARNED it, and didn’t buy it. They would all be Croatian and properly and honestly selected for the team. THAT’S what matters.
” I like to think of myself as the Fox News Channel” ah you stupid fool Ziva, Fox Sports is so shit for soccer.
“I was hoping they would surrender a goal when Sammir came on” Thats a die hard fan if I ever saw one. Rooting for the opposition to score on your team. Svaka Cast, ti si najveci BEDAK…………
Ok, what was the question posed to me about my Gotovina remarks?
I’ll reply, but what was the question?
Interesting the Vat is worried about the muslim timebomb in Europe.
http://news.yahoo.com/cardinal-causes-uproar-muslim-scare-video-vatican-184610984.html
Ante B – Ja san reka svoje pa ti misli sta oces.
@ Ziva you love Croatia so much that you didn’t even write anything to General Ante Oluja Gotovina last week. All you did is make some smart ass statement. Oh I’m sorry, your to self centered for that cause it might be “jock sniffing” in your eyes.
Doktor Prle came on this site called you out and still is confronting you on many things and you pulled back. I haven’t seen you respond to him and the dude confronts you all the time. I think you met your match and feel you cant compete with a man of his caliber. You get on people you feel you can out knowledge that’s about it.
On that note no BDAY wishes for you buddy
Haet,
I read the question incorrectly. For me it’s a NO I wouldn’t mind.
NB,
Those statements were pure idiocy and fucking stupid brate. Nobody said fuck Hrvatska, we said fuck the HNS. Don’t put words into my mouth. Also BBB and Torcida did nothing? How ignorant have you become dude? Your Torcida is single handedly saving Hajduk right now and BBB boycott showed the world how awful Mamic is and how many laws he has broken. They did way more and not a simple bullshit. It’s a hell of a lot more convincing comparing club and int football than to the boys on the battlefield during the war.
Ziva is right. We love Hrvatska so much and have been to so many games, including Dukic and Fisto, that we can do what we’re doing because its the right thing to do. Loving Croatian soccer isn’t blind and you’re not getting that. I don’t have a problem with you rooting for them even if I think it’s hypocritical in the end but don’t you dare say we ever said fuck and Hrvatska. We just love it so much we won’t stand by and have our thumbs up our asses while its being raped in front of us. Awful take.
THAT WOULD BE A YES VOTE YO.
I will watch, I always watch. That is the only way I can offer some of you unfiltered, unbiased views. I like to think of myself as the Fox News Channel of this website…..fair and balanced.
Totally untrue about not being a die hard fan if I stop rooting for the repka. I was hoping they would surrender a goal when Sammir came in on Friday. Why, because I am a die hard fan. I want people who deserve to be on the team and are not on it because of the self interest of Stimac, Mamic and Puppet Suker.
You see, I love hrvatska so much (and loving Hrvatska is much more than soccer games) that I am willing to sacrafice wins on the pitch in order to bring awareness to the evil that is taking place.
Some of you were sending happy birthday wishes to gen. Gotovina last week. Well, prepare to send me birthday wishes in a few days for my birthday, because I only have the best interest of Hrvatska at play here.
@nije bitno
Svaka čast as per usual my friend!
What did Torcida and BBB do? absolutely SHIT! Hajduk is corrupt has been corrupt and will be corrupt until something else happens other than Torcida boycotting whatever it may be. Same with Dinamo. Besides to me club level and international level are on different horizons. Like i said while there is players on that field playing for Croatia…..
Neka nas čuju igrači koji brane svete boje Naše su ruke u zraku, podignute za heroje Jer za svoj se narod bore dok se barjaci vijore Za Hrvatsku vatru vatrena nam srca gore!
Fuck Mamic! But will never say fuck Hrvatska. To me if you turn off a TV or not watch a game or stop rooting for your country cause of some mafia that everyone else has problems with, you aren’t a die hard fan. It’s not the teams fault!
We can go back and forth about this but i said what i had to say about this for the last time.
@ante b
good answer
Haet,
To answer your question: YES. I am fine with provided the following: they deserve to be on that team, they don’t use the mafia or their connections to get there, they play with pride like da Silva, know the language, himna, etc and it would help if they were born there. Basically the opposite of the Sammir fiasco. On the flip side, my answer would be no if it were all Sammir types who made it on the team because of convenience.
It’s not about race for the overwhelming majority. It’s whether or not you’re good enough to represent us.
@hate
I answered your question, as long as we follow the fifa rules.
sports, sports, sports, please.
It’s funny how everybody talks about non-Croats/non-Europeans on the NT; then when I ask simple questions about the same subject – suddenly it’s “oh, this is a sports site, stop talking about politics, you sound like a broken record, etc”
CAN YOU HERE THE SILENCE?
Simple question: do you have a problem with a future Croatian NT being ALL non-white “skin color”???
YES or NO?
Anonymous: “Hey HAET, you never answered my question. Show us some official policy where “white” nations “encourage” non-white immigration.”
LMFAO! Are you serious????? What else can be the reason for mass third world immigration and forced integration into EVERY and ONLY white countries since WW2 other than – POLICIES???????
The BBB talked about and even followed Dinamo during their boycott so did the Torcida so if they can, we can still comment. Speaking of the BBB and Torcida, their actions were obviously right at the end of the day. They did what was right and that’s what will be remembered.
@anonymous
Why am I FORCED by law not to consider race when I’m hiring someone for a job of a business I OWN?
Why am I FORCED by lay not to consider race when renting apartments in a building I OWN?
Why does the law FORBID me from setting up a Whites Only school for white children?
Why can’t we have whites only towns like the American Indians do?
vatrena cast said “@haet
talk soccer or sports, you make us look bad. its people liek you that get the international community on our ass.”
Sounds like “pressure” to me, no?
I never post this much, my apologies for over-posting.
Stimac probably left it there for him from his post game conference last Friday.
@croatia and nije bitno
i think its awesome. lol the man had a good laugh.
as long as we follow the fifa rules is my answer.
@ Nije Bitno
It doesn’t surprise me Mihajlovic had that song playing. He has Croatian ancestry.
keep talking sports fellas, everything else should be and will be ignored.
@vatrena cast,
You’re avoiding my question: AGAIN: would you have a problem with a future Croatian NT being ALL non-white?
YES or NO?
the fifa laws are in place for a reason, as long as we follow those im fine with it.
@Anonymous, are you serious? Where have you been? the SPLC is raising money to put Blacks in Northern Idaho for Pete’s sake, teenage white girls were forced at gunpoint by the Federal gov’t to integrate into Black schools in the South – it’s no “coincidence” this was happening around the same time the anti-white 1965 immigration law was passed with a direct lie that it “wouldn’t change America’s racial demographic”. When the “Iron Curtain” fell, all sorts of anti-white organizations were asking when Eastern Europe would be “ready” for third world immigration, but they NEVER asked more wealthy Asian countries when they would be “ready”. The list goes on and on; go google white minority in various white majority countries and you’ll get TONS of hits, then go google Asian minority for ANY Asian country or Black minority in ANY Black country and you’ll get no hits.
Why are there Chinese in Croatia? Did the Croatian people vote on this simple question, or was Croatia pressured by the E.U. to accept them? Are there ANY organizations pressuring non-white countries to become more “diverse”?
On the Simunic issue, the man has heart. I dont think he should play when we have both Dejo and Corluka fit. Gotta hand it to him he did well against belgium and macedonia. Not that im comparing him to Beckenbauer but even he made mistakes at times. everyone will have the mistake here and there. I think Croatia can produce some quality backs in the future. Give a call up to one of the U21 backs and have him play with us for a little.
You’re right, my bad! Carry on…..
Hey HAET, you never answered my question. Show us some official policy where “white” nations “encourage” non-white immigration.
@anonymous
i read that wrong! sorry, my apologies, no reason to call him names, he makes himself look bad.
@anonymous
personal attack, nice touch.
@haet
I have always been told not to assume anything about people. Dont put words in my mouth. the team wont be all “non-white” Croatian genes are too athletic. lets face it we make some of the best athletes in the world.
Sorry @anonymous. Typing from phone, and I guess Simunic is first on the list.
Stimac*
Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum are bored and back at it again.
HAET
Maybe Vatrena Cast is just busy dickwad.
@ haet anonymous
keep it on sports. everything else is crap
@GoldenChild, since when is Simunic the head coach. Last time I checked it was Stimac.
@vatrena cast, so you have no problem with a future Croatia National Team being ALL non-white, correct?
Since you’re afraid to answer this National Team question, we have to assume your answer is NO – you don’t have a problem with a future Croatian NT being ALL non-white, because of course, that would make you a “racists”, correct.
HAET says:
@vatrena cast,
Please, I’m not the only one talking about this. YOU can bend over for the “international community” all YOU want. Why don’t you go ask the “international community” why non-white countries aren’t pressured to accept foreign races and “assimilate” with them?
What “pressure” do “white” countries have to take in non-whites? This should be good….
I am only going to answer your national team question, the other is just crap. Play the best players with have. We love Croatia for many reasons, if others make it their home, legally, and love our way of life then and have kids and they are soccer quality, yes have them play for us. Keep it at sports, dont bring your other racist views or anything else up. It is a sports site, keep it that way please.
The name’s HAET, not Haet.
@vatrena cast,
Please, I’m not the only one talking about this. YOU can bend over for the “international community” all YOU want. Why don’t you go ask the “international community” why non-white countries aren’t pressured to accept foreign races and “assimilate” with them? If this multiCULTuralism and Dieversity is so wonderful, why are we keeping it for ONLY white countries???
@vatrena cast,
For the last time I’m going to ask this question, YOU don’t care then if Croatia imports third worlders to do the manual labor that an aging Croatian population can’t do, and also import more high IQ Chinese “for a better economy” – have these people “assimilate” (i.e. intermarry) with Croatians and have these “born in Croatia” children making up the future national team? Afterall, this would NOT be “depopulation”, what would would you call this?
Are you ‘for’ or ‘against’ this?
@haet
talk soccer or sports, you make us look bad. its people liek you that get the international community on our ass.
Possibility of this happening:
Modric gets a yellow card in the next game, meaning he’s out against Serbia. Simunic starts Sammir in his place. Sammir scores two goals against Serbia in a 2-1 victory.
Sta onda?
@ Josip B – I guess a couple of you still haven’t started your official “ignoring”/withdrawing support of the Repka since you’re still posting about them here.
EXACTLY!
for the final and last time, i dont care that sammir is black, purple, a martian, white, or any other bullshit. by the laws of fifa he can play. I dont care much about his private life. who he fornicates with, where he parties, what he eats and shits. bottom line is he is not good enough. he has not proven himself. I do not think he should be taking a spot of a croatian born player that is good enough. I know Livaja is young but why not give him a call up, get him the experience, he has room to grow. sammir is in his prime and he still plays in the HNL. We all know the true reason he is on the national side, Mamic and his posse. that is why when he comes on i turn it off. I think many of you agree with me on this issue.
@jm, another stupid comment from you. Are you and laknat the same person. Do you both ever comment on anything else except Simunic.
I guess you conveniently forgot the goal line save he did. Back up who should be in his place but you can’t. We have a really deep defensive squad to pick from so enlighten us.
Adriatic Bull: “Who cares what colour he is as Ziva has pointed it out it’s not about his skin colour but the reasons behind why hes repping Croatia!”
So then you have no problem if the future NT is ALL non-white “skin colour”, as long the “reasons” for it are acceptable to YOU?
You would agree that you can’t call someone a “racist” for not wanting ANY non-whites on the team, then turn around and say 5, 10 or 25 is too many? – b/c that would be “racist”, correct?
Two very simple yes or no questions, just answer them so we know where you stand. Otherwise, your silence will reveal you’re talking out of both sides of your mouth.
I guess a couple of you still haven’t started your official “ignoring”/withdrawing support of the Repka since you’re still posting about them here.
@HAET
“It doesn’t suprise me at all that a person who proclaims himself “the voice of truth and reason” is an OBVIOUS bullshitter.”
Oh wow !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ziva Istina says “I am the voice of truth and reason here”
and then says “I don’t seee skin color.”
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So you acknowledge the existence of skin color, then deny that it exists?
It doesn’t suprise me at all that a person who proclaims himself “the voice of truth and reason” is an OBVIOUS bullshitter.
i don’t really think simunic should be playing either. the claim is that he played well against belgium, i don’t think he actually did. he lost his man in the first half for a wide open header in front of the goal that would’ve been scored if the belgian guy hadn’t screw it up. he also made a nice slide tackle to stop what looked like it was going to be a one-on-one with pletikosa, but he wouldn’t have had to do the risky slide tackle in the box if he ddin’t get beat
You guys have it all wrong.
I would highly suggest starting Sammir from the first minute. After all, he made that team fair and square via Mamic, is the heart and soul of the team and pride on the field in the stands, has done huge things in the perennial powerhouse that is the HNL, brings all Hrvati together, etc. You are all idiots for not wanting to start him. In other news, I’m going to go throw up.
Be careful what you ask for boys…
IF Modric, Srna or Corluka pick up a yellow vs Wales…or two of them do, watch panic ensue for the Serbia game. those are our 3 key players. Why gamble when you don’t have to.
Shut down Bale and we’re good.
its easy to sub on mandza or jela at half time.
….but he’s Brazilian!
if you are even thinking about starting radosevic and badelj together and sitting modric you are an idiot. if you are still talking about rakitic missing the header against spain youre an idiot. Luka needs to play, hes a smart player and he doesnt get cards that often. go for the win. If you say Kalinic before Dudu then youre an idiot as well. Id give Dudu a try for the first half, on his worst day hes better than Kalinic. He performs for the national team, gives his all every game. he has plenty left in the tank.
@Armada, who cares who you would have in. Unfortunately Scifo sits on the bench at his club and Lovren is unreliable at this point.
This is not some pee wee tournament where we put everyone on. Simunic did well against belguim and macedonia. You can’t deny that, go with him. In fact he saved us against Belgium.
I don’t get why so many of your have a hard-on for Simunic still… He’s probably the slowest person on the NT, has a tendency for stupid fouls and cards and just continually gets burned by fowards and midfielders that aren’t that great…
Oh wait – I forgot he’s had “great form” in the mightly Prva HNL, playing perennial powerhouses like Zadar and NK Zagreb.
I’d rather have Scifo in there… Plus, Lovren needs to cement his spot in our backline. This injury prone bullshit needs to stop with him. We don’t need another Igor Tudor type (minus the team cancer part) that’s always injured.
I say start the 2 Brazilians up front.
There’s no tomorrow.
Ajmo Hrvatska!!!!!!!
http://is.gd/9YIdKL
You play your strongest line up today and worry about tomorrow, tomorrow.
Anything other than that is not smart, IMO.
We need Simunic to play. He has shown his worth to the team.
I made a mistake, Srna can play, I was sure I’ve heard on tv that he can’t tho..but whatever. The only important thing right now is to win against Wales and then we’ll look for Serbia. If Modric doesn’t play tomorrow it won’t be anything ‘terrible’, and if the game’s not how we expected, Stimac can still put him in. But Stimac said he won’t change a lot so he’ll probably play.
kick Simunic before its too late >>
Matisic Method,
I like your lineup, however I wouldn’t mind seeing Corluka and Srna start.
We need to concentrate on beating Wales right now. If it rains, that’s not going to be easy.
Expect a very rainy day tomorrow weather wise.
Tri boda here we come!
sorry “dobra je pesma”
Not playing Modric is not the same as not trying for 3 points. Wales is a weaker opponent than Serbia. Just because we sit him doesn’t mean they aren’t going to play hard and take all 3. They probably don’t need all their firepower to break down Wales. If we don’t see Modric tomorrow, I won’t be upset/surprised.
He says “dobra pesma” lol
Check out what ring tone starts to play in the middle of Serbias press conference in Makedonija! hahahahaha OH LORD the look on Mihajlovic’s face is priceless!
http://www.index.hr/sport/clanak/mihajlovicu-usred-presice-zasvirala-pjesma-dalmacijo-moja-ruzo-procvala/641885.aspx
Worry about Serbia after Wales. Play your best and let the chips fall where they may….agree with Ziva (shock!) that 3 points vs. Wales is first priority….get a couple goal lead and then yank him and stack the back if you must.
Pretty sure Srna can’t play because he has 2 yellow cards. And if Modric gets a new yellow card tomorrow he can’t play against Serbia so I wouldn’t put him in the starting.
I wish ‘vatreni’ the best of luck tomorrow!
I agree with Ziva we have to play each game full on until we advance. The goal should be to win this group and forget the knockout playoff.
Also, lets forget this nonsesne about saving Modric or any other player with yellow cards for the Serbia game. All these games mean the same in terms of points won or lost. A win over Wales is worth 3 points just like a win over the serbs is worth 3 points. Take care of the business at hand. If we get a lead then take Modric out, but the priority is Wales right now.
If someone presented me with the following option: you will qualify for the WC, but you will lose In BG to the serbs. I would take it. I hate the serbs as much as I hate jock-sniffing fans, but the goal is the world cup. You play on Tuesday to win against Wales.
And could ever forget Gus?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074599/
We’ve had lots of duds play for the repka over the years who had no business suiting up, but never the reaction like this.
Remember that piece of shit Tomas? Boze oslobodi. Bet you all of you can name another half dozen…..how about that guy who played his club soccer in Israel, can’t recall his name for the moment but he was awful, Giovanni Rossi?!?
If Sammir plays I will flush my toilet 3 times and close my espn3 browser window in support of those in Osijek who will walkout. West Europe is on it’s way to becoming Brazil anyway so I really do not care what the EU media will say.
http://darquo.site90.net/cro_web_player.php Why doesnt this website work anymore?
Americans are pretty uptight when it comes to skin colour. Who cares what colour he is as Ziva has pointed it out it’s not about his skin colour but the reasons behind why hes repping Croatia!
To leave Modric out of the starting roster is just dumb in my opinion. You have to go for three points in every game, and Modric is the main key to us getting that. I think you’re crazy to think that Badelj and Radosevic can carry the load back there. They’ve both played sparing minutes in European competition, and now you want to have them start?
Aside from his talent on the pitch, Modric is also playing at Real Madrid because of his intellect. If you tell Luka to go easy, he’s going to go easy. We need him in the middle to start the game and allow ourselves to take the lead. If you want to take him out after that, that’s fine with me. I know it may sound dangerous, but Modric isn’t like a Balotelli who is going to go out and make a stupid play and crush is chances to play against Serbia.
Finally, you’re taking out two guys that score on a consistent basis on a club level for the past 2 months. Then you’re changing up the formation and putting Eduardo up, who hasn’t started for club or country in who knows how long. I understand that we don’t look pretty at the moment, but we haven’t yet lost a game with this strategy. You also have to realize that Stimac isn’t a tactical dynamo. So I don’t think that’s gonna happen either.
not to me brother. I don’t seee skin color. I see a man called up to increase his value and not called up based on his ability or what he shown so far.
If the fans were to walk out, it would not be a black mark on Croatia or hrvati. Instead, it will be a landmark moment where the fans are showing a symbolic gesture.
Yeah ok, you’re going to eliminate the criminal element by whining on this site eh?
If people walk out during the game in Osijek it will just be another black mark on Croatia demonstrating a lack of tolerance. Sad.
As others have stated over the weekend here, the only difference between Eduardo and Sammir is the latter is darker, ie. more pronounced prejudice.
I care….and because I care, you should care.
I am the voice of truth and reason here. We need to get rid of the criminal element.
I sure hope these rumors out of Cro are accurate that a good number of fans will leave the stadium on Tuesday if Sammir comes into the game. I am hesitant to believe them because the game is in Osijek and its really rare for the repka to play in Osijek.
@Ziva Istina
Agreed. Who givces a rat’s ass….
@Ziva Istina
Who cares.
Stimac is also taking suggestions on Facebook and how he and his brother can manipulate additional player transfers to cost Hajduk even more money.
@MatesicMethod
Forgot to add:
The right side of your lineup is very good against the Bale factor and covers the yellow card contingency plan as well!
Go to facebook and let Stimac know!
🙂
@MatesicMethod
Nice lineup.
Unfortunately I see Stimac playing Corluka and Srna in this one but I must say I like your lineup and your logic.
Ivan Juric deserves a call up. We need him.
3 points are vital !
Mandzukic
Perisic-Modric-rakitic
Badelj-Radosevic
Strinic-Simunic-Lovren-Vida
Once we secure the result THEN take Modric off.
Cannot let Wales have possession to gain any confidence.
Vida and Srna on the right side to double up on Bale and the rest who cares…Its Wales!
Badelj should be given the start at CDM
Štimac: Neću mijenjati sastav koji pobjeđuje
http://is.gd/76g2Eb
We need Simunic, Good call.
fucking Simunic, what the hell of that starting 11>
thats a big big mistake.
Great write up, thanks for sharing! Heals
All in all some good line ups posted , main objective is to contain bale that s it.. as for the constant hits on rakitics headers , All you can ask is for them to be on target
@ziva istina
ok kranjcar is good player, he is playing good in dynamo kiev and he has done good things for the NT, what i was trying to say is he is in good form and he can be a good asset for the game against serbia
@capitals55
“where Ivans guide to heading the ball”
He gave that guide to Strinic and Vida when we played Belgium and they in turn passed it to on to Jelavic on Friday.
Jebia ga, if kranjcar is great then we have nothing to worry about. Hate to see the words you use to describe someone who actually is great.
actually i made a mistake srna and corluka should not start, as you said they both can receive a yellow and miss the next game, so replace them with lovren and vida
and i made a typo in my last comment luka modric SHOULDNT be in real madrid
he is not in 100% form, he is probably around 75% or less
PLETIKOSA
VIDA LOVREN SIMUNIC STRINIC
RADOSEVIC
RAKITIC *KRANJCAR/BADELJ* PERISIC
MANDZUKIC KALINIC
Start badelj over kranjcar because he has a yellow and kranjcar is a great player that can help us against serbia
kalinic for eduardo
instead of a 4-2-3-1 formation i would go 4-1-3-2
switch badelj for mandzukic and put him in the ST position along side kalinic
srna in for vida
corluka in for lovren, lovren is still not back at the 100% buy very soon will be
the following players are all in form, and play great for the national team
luka modric should be in real madrid, there are too many good players at his position, he should request to leave if not we wont see our star luka modric any more, he will be like kaka and brazil he will rarely play for the national team
PLETIKOSA
SRNA CORLUKA SIMUNIC STRINIC
RADOSEVIC
RAKITIC KRANJCAR PERISIC
MANDZUKIC KALINIC
@ capitals55,
Well done 🙂
where Ivans guide to heading the ball
Rakitic’s guide to free kicks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqrhmYYZioc&feature=relmfu
I like your “alternate” lineup. Eduardo would be my biggest concern.