Written by dinamofan, CSR HNL correspondent
Timisoara 0 Dinamo 3
Dinamo Zagreb got their Europa Liga campaign up and running after a comfortable 3-0 win over a poor looking Timisoara side. The Romanian club gave Dinamo a strong foot hold in the game due to poor passing allowing Milan Badelj to govern the midfield. Badelj opened the scoring on eight minutes when he found the bottom corner from the edge of the box. In response, Timisoara attempted to break back with Dinamo goalie, Filip Lončarić, being forced to make a couple of fine saves. However, it was again Badelj who came closest to getting a second with a more powerfully hit shot that was well stopped.
In the second half Timisoara appeared to get worse whilst Dinamo stepped it up and scored their second through a nice finish from Sammir after Badelj had set him up. Pedro Morales then began to enter the game and scored with a crisp strike eight minutes later from an angle after being put through on goal. Morales also came close soon after with a long distance shot which went wide.
IT WOULDN’T BE A DINAMO GAME WITHOUT AT LEAST ONE ARREST
Dinamo showed a much better attitude and commitment tonight, but would still hope to improve. Mario Mandžukić and Sammir particularly were guilty of some wasteful moments in possession. Ilija Sivonjić can be happy with his performance having been introduced to the forward line in place of Papadopoulos, but Dinamo still need to find a forward that can seriously threaten strong opponents. There were also many positive points to Dinamo’s play, the most significant being a very mature display from Milan Badelj.
Robert Kovač also marshalled the defense well with Etto, Cufre and Lovren who were all on good form. It also looks as though Tomislav Butina will be spending some time on Dinamo’s bench as this was a perfect showing from Filip Lončarić. There was also good news for Dinamo in Belgium as Ajax and Anderlecht played out a 1-1 draw, which enables the Croatian champions to advance into second place in the group.
BBB GETTING TAKEN CARE OF BY ROMANIAN POLICE AFTER THE DINAMO WIN
THROW ANYTHING! EVEN YOUR KID!
@HvarSplican
As a Hajduk fan, I should hate everything and anything from Dinamo including the BBB.
I never "chuckled" when I heard the name BBB. All you Hajduk fans can call me crazy, but I actually like the name.
I still don't get what your question is? Where are you going with this.
@BBBZG
Dobro dosli!
Hvala sta ste ispricali kako je posta ime BBB, i povijest od Dinamovih navijaca. Mozes pisati na Hrvatski ali kako si ti pisa:
"Sto se tice da je izabrano neko ime grupe na nasem. Ne vjerujem da bi ostatak Evrope i svijeta to zapamtio.Ovak svi znaju Engleski i zvuci mnogo bolje a cim se spomene BBB znaju svi da dolaze iz Zagreba-Hrvatske."
Pisemo sve na Engleski za cijeli svijet. Ako mozes na Engleski onda rade na Engleski. Ako ti Engleski ne ide dobro, mozes se uvijek vratit i pisat na Hrvatski.
@AnteBBB,
nije zabranjeno pisati na Hrvatski, ali rade bi da pisemo na Engleski tako da svi razumu. Mozes ti pricat na Hrvatski, ali nece te pola razumit.
"I won't stick to insults but my God, it's so hard not to."
haha, you're doing great!
@Ziva istina
"People in Cro are fasinated with western and american culture, so its no surprise they would pick an english name."
I agree
@Michael
"Since 1997, Croatia has received over 1M Euro's in fines."
Thats amazing!
@EZC
I dont think BBB are anywhere near the Raptors. Toronto has nothing to do with Jurassic park.
@Petar Radman
I dont have a problem with Anaheim Mighty Ducks. They were owned by Disney at one point, and mighty Ducks was a hit movie. Disney and Disneyland is in Anaheim.
Raptors? Its not a terrible name, it just doesn't belong in Toronto.
The Lakers should have changed their name as well. However, you can't erase history. The Jazz have their history in New Orleans, the Lakers in Minnesota.
No matter how silly the name, you can't erase history. Hopefully, Lakers will forever be Lakers.
I agree with DC to change the name bullets with their high murder rates year in year out.
Im not a baseball or stickball fan, but:
"I dont know if you follow Baseball, but, how many times did the Anaheim Angeles / California Angeles /Los Angelese Angels of Anaheim change their name? Seems to be a annual thing. "
is ridiculous. I would protest if I was an Angel fan.
@EZC
There are no 0 Lakes in Los Angeles. If there was one, we would turn it into a casino.
"Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim, Southern California, just north of San Diego." ? – Classic. Try putting that name on a cap or a jersey. However, they would be really making it difficult to top that name when they eventually decide to change it, as they do every 2-3 seasons. Perhaps including the latitude and longitude of the stadium in the name?
I forgot they were called the Bullets. And, yes, the Angels' name changes were a running joke for quite a while. Next year, I hear they're going to be renamed the "Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim, Southern California, just north of San Diego."
It was sad that the SuperSonics left. Though, I think Seattle is too good of a market to be without the NBA for long. As for the Toronto Huskies, they couldn't go with the name because of the Minnesota Timberwolves…they said the logos/name would be too similar. I agree they would have been nice uniforms.
I know I found it very funny that Washington DC had one of the highest crime and murder rates in North America and the team was the Bullets. It got so bad they had to change the name. I dont know if you follow Baseball, but, how many times did the Anaheim Angeles / California Angeles /Los Angelese Angels of Anaheim change their name? Seems to be a annual thing.
I was always a big SuperSonics fan growing up as a kid. Loved watching Shawn Kemp, Gary Payton, Detlef Schrempf and Nate McMillan play together. I started supporting The Raptors as soon as I knew a franchise was coming. The name is a joke, nobody takes it seriously, wonder why it still exists. They had one alternative being the Toronto Huskies. It would have mimicked the UConn Huskies almost to a tee in terms of color pattern for the uniforms. It would have looked allot sharper than some stupid Dinosaur that always makes me think of the children s character Barney and that annoying song "I Love You, You Love Me"
Good call Radman.
Mighty Ducks, another team named after movie, is probably one of the worst pro names around. Though they dropped the name to just Ducks now.
I agree that the Jazz should have changed their name after the move, but there are worse examples in the NBA. How many lakes are there in Los Angeles? Not to mention there are no Grizzlies in Memphis or all of Tennesse.
Yes, I support the Raptors. I was a NBA fan long before the Raptors arrived. every time I watch a game, or read about them in the papers or on the net, I always think, wow, what a stupid name. Also, shouldn't have the Utah Jazz changed their name when the team relocated? Whats worse, Toronto Raptors or Anaheim Mighty Ducks?
You guys are being too hard on HvarSplican.
"Bad Blue Boys" is much funnier than "Torcida." Not because it is foreign, but because of the time frame. In the 80s, "Bad Boys" may have been a recognizable reference, but the average young person today has probably never seen the movie (actually, I haven't either). It will forever be an 80s reference. It does sound funny to an English speaker reading about a Croatian soccer team.
It reminds me of the Toronto Raptors NBA team. By itself, "Raptors" is not a terrible name, but it is due to the popularity of Jurrasic Park in the early 90s. Toronto will always have a basketball team named after a movie about dinosaurs. In a way, that's kind of funny 15-20 years later.
whatever, the bad blue budali and the the hard core donkeys are both embarrassments to Hrvatska everytime these retards act like jackasses. They should be banned from competition until they learn how to behave like cultured adults. Even England can boast a huge reduction in hooliganism from their fans so why cant we? They're no different than a spoiled punk kid deserving an IPK (inappropriate pee pee kicking).
Since 1997, Croatia has received over 1M Euro's in fines.
So Hajduk got fined 40,000 Euros for the "hooliganism" in the Slovakia match. It was for throwing flares and drinks and for the sign about Slovak brutality. On one side I think the police provoke Croatian fans. For example, the Croat fans who had tickets and still were not allowed to go into the stadium in Slovakia. And on the other side I think if half of the "hooligans" spent more of their time playing soccer instead of being jack-asses maybe they could actually make a great living from playing the beautiful game.
if dinamo spent £1.5m on Ermin Zec rather than waste it on Slepicka, Dinamo would be 20% better right now. The best thing for Vrdoljak would have been to transfer to Koln. I think he is one of the players Soldo complains Koln's board should have backed him on. He'd have improved a lot as a player with them.
There's defensive mids everywhere. Finding a defensive mid better than Vrdoljak will be easy for us. I hope we cash in in the winter. Having seen Mandzo lately i'm not sure if he's even ready to transfer. He looked good at start of season, but lately it looks like his game needs more work.
I'd argue however regardless of what Dinamo do against Ajax that Jurcic cannot do anymore with the current crop of players he has. remember he does not make the signings. If Dinamo do not managed anything more than beating this poor Romanian side then Mamic should stop running in changing rooms and look at himself. It was he who signed Slepicka, Papadopoulos. I think some of our players are limited. I think Etto, Cufre, Lovren, Kovac, Morales, Badelj are good players. However i think Vrdoljak is limited and i think we have no high class goalscorer. Sivonjic is young and learn. As is Kramaric. Mandzo is good at what he does, but the two actual signings we made Slepicka and Papa do not fulfill the task they were signed for which is goalscoring. Both of them would have had been better of if they never heard of Dinamo Zagreb. Slepicka would still be playing at Sparta and Papa would be in Olympiakos or Larissa. However neither of them was what we were looking for. We are looking for a striker of Eduardo calibre. If we lose to Ajax it'll be cos of having no striker and also no solid defensive mid. Vrdoljak has hit his peak. This is his maximum level. He can't play better than this so i think ultimately in the winter we have to improve the team. I'll say this before the Ajax game.
Also regards Ajax they definitely aren't what they were, but Luis Suarez can destroy Dinamo single handedly. They have what we don't which is one player that can make the difference.
Nah Timisoara were always rubbish. Shaktar always start season cold. Now they are back to what we are used to. If they both play again now then Shaktar will rip them up.
Croatianized? I won't stick to insults but my God, it's so hard not to.
Following your arguments (sans forming in 1950), you can also say that "Bad Blue Boys" is synonymous with Croatia. Based on your criterion, the Boys have had movies (Metastaze), books (Dobro Dosli u Plavi Pakao), and songs (Dinamo Ja Volim by Pips Chips i Videoclips, Mi Smo Dinamo, etc.) written about them. Therefore they are also Croatianized.
Would I ever change it? Absolutely not. And neither would the hundreds of supporter groups around the world that carry English names. Like BBBZG said earlier, the BBB are the best English type of supporters in Hrvatska whereas Torcida follow the Italian school.
@dinamofan…. I will give Jurcic credit for some of the changes, but I also will hold out full compliments until I see what they do against Ajax. Granted, this is not a powerful Ajax side, but it will be interesting to see what they do against them.
That romanian side looked terrible yesterday and I have to wonder how they hell did they knock out Shaktar from the Champions League. Was it pure luck and their streak of good fortune is coming to an end, what is just a bad day or did Dinamo have something to do with it.
@HvarSplican…..what was your original question?
@BBBZG
Slazem se s tobom. Ali, Denis i Ante su vec rekli da mi pricamo na engleski tako da svi razumiiju. Medutim, pricat cu na engleski.
@Ziva Istina / Ante BBB
Ziva, I'm not ripping anyone. I was just asking a question. I realize Torcida isn't a croatian name. I just get the feeling that the name Torcida has been "croatianized" (numerous songs have been written about them (Coce, etc) it was formed in 1950, etc) So if you're asking would I change the Torcida name, I say no. But comparing Torcida and BBB is comparing apples and oranges. Now that I've answered your question, how about you answer mine?
I loved how Mamic walked right by the BBB yesterday.
They played one of their best European games in a long time.
Just want to dip my fly in your ointment for a second if i may, Getting back to the game for a moment. With respect to Jurcic even Ziva has to admit this – Jurcic has identified what's wrong in Dinamo's side and i like the way he's tried to change Dinamo's fortunes. Whilst Sivonjic offered no threat yesterday, his touch in possession was much better than Papa who almost always ends up giving the ball away. This helped Dinamo make greater progressed up the pitch. That is good tactics in my opinion and shows he learns and monitors the game and what's happening on the pitch.
Also if we look at it. This isn't the same side we played against Red Bull. It takes a brave coach to drop Butina for Loncaric. It also takes a brave coach to keep believing in Badelj's ability to play that role. He has also turned around the career of Morales. Start of season Morales was out in the cold. Then he's gets swine flu and thinking can things get any worse. Then Jurcic goes out and says i'll play this attacking formation with Morales, Sammir and Badelj in it with two strikers and Morales now has 10 goals in 16 games. He also ripped up the plan when he changed Glavina for Cufre. Cufre just doesn't even look like a Dinamo player. You can tell Cufre has played at the highest level. He talks and doesn't give in easily. Yes he is known for being a bit mad but he seems to me everything Dinamo needed in their team.
Regards signings in my opinion Jurcic is not responsible for signings. He only works with the tools Mamic gives him. Having said all this just like Anderlecht defeat was not end of the world, this win is not anything incredible. Its just another game. Mandzo didn't play well last night and that is a concern. Against Ajax we need to have more threat up front.
You can commence talking about BBB now. I just wanted to interupt to put across some Jurcic love:)
@HvarSplican……brother, i am a hajdukovac, but if you are going to rip the BBB for using an english name, then what can you say about the Torcida. Torcida is not an original name either.
People in Cro are fasinated with western and american culture, so its no surprise they would pick an english name.
Correction: not all, but most. There are tons back home.
@BBBZG
Konacno! Ipak vidim da nisam sam. Uglavnom brijem da trosis vrijeme ovdje kada koristis hrvatski jer je strogo zabranjen na ovoj stranici ali no, ipak se zahvaljuljem… 🙂
@SwissCheeseSplico
Look at the names of all of the supporter groups in Croatia and only a handful are 'Croatian'.
Torcida (Portuguese), Bad Blue Boys (English), Armada (Spanish), Kohorta (Latin), Funcuti, Demoni, Red Fuckers, Gademzi, Plava Brigada…list goes on.
Do you chuckle everytime you see Torcida's name? Would you change it?
Za HvarSplican,
BBB "Englesko" ime je izabrano jel su se BBB uvijek furali na Engleski stil navijanja-Glasno navijanje i sore.Dok su Torcida i ostali vise pratili Italiju-Koreografije,velike bakljade…
Sto se tice da je izabrano neko ime grupe na nasem. Ne vjerujem da bi ostatak Evrope i svijeta to zapamtio.Ovak svi znaju Engleski i zvuci mnogo bolje a cim se spomene BBB znaju svi da dolaze iz Zagreba-Hrvatske.
Ime BBB je osnovano 1986,ne i navijaci Dinama.Dinamo ima navijace od kad postoji klub 1911.
Samo su 1986 imenom BBB svi hard core navijaci Dinama ujedinjeni pod tim imenom.
Sto se tice povijesti od 1986,BBB su prosli sto neke navijacke grupe i klubovi ne bu da su stari 200 godina a neki ni tada.
13.5.1990 napad na drzavni sistem i pocetak rata,dva puta promjena imena i borba protiv nove vlasti u Hrvatskoj,odnosno tadasnjeg predsjednika Tudjmana,promjena 4-5 Fan clubova,bezbrojne sore po Evropi…
Nadam se da sam ti uspio odgovoriti na pitanja i da citas i pricas Hrvatski ak ne bumo ti preveli 🙂
Badelj had the game of his life, good for the kid. This is a kid that I supported from the beginning and that I feel very sorry for as well. He had the unfortunate timing of taking over the creative role as soon as Modric left Dinamo. He was 18 going on 19. The ambitions of Dinamo did not diminish once Modric left. That eing said, allot was asked of this young guy, allot of pressure put on his shoulders and he did not back down or ever make excuses. The kid has always put in steady performances and constantly improved. You cant ask for anything more than that. I am not sure what his ceiling is as a player, what his ultimate skill set is. I still think he should continue with the Under 21s and grow in that environment. However, in a year, preferably 2, if he does get the call for Croatia, nobody can argue. The kid has the kind of mentality that others in Croatian Football should emulate.
I thought Lovren grew into the game. Ended up putting in an above average performance. I pray to god that both he and Barbaric reach what they are capable of, it will be good news for Dinamo, especially for Croatia. Jurcic deserves allot of praise as well. One of the best moves Dinamo has made in years is signing this guy. I am not familar with his contract when he left Belupo. I do not know if he had a clause stipulating that he could not coach another team in the HNL for a set amount of time. For other teams not to have made an attempt to sign this guy as their head coach is criminal. He brought such a slick way of playing for Slaven Belupo, they had such confidence for a side that was never considered in the top 12 in Croatia. Good for him. Definitely a future National Team Manager in the making.
HvarSplican,
I have been asked to be nice but it's extremely difficult with morons like you. Your new nickname is Swiss Cheese because you are full of holes, the biggest being the one between your ears.
If you chuckle at the BBB for choosing an English name, take a look at your own Torcida. Do you honestly think Torcida is a Croatian word?
It's not; I believe it's Portuguese for hurricane but I could be wrong.
I pose your own question back to you, Swiss Cheese.
Ask Ante about the BBB stuff cos i didn't put in that bit. I just watched the match and filed the report afterwards. I read some bits about the BBB stuff, but it didn't greatly interest me. To be honest that side we played were rubbish. We didn't have to be at our best to win. I am not convinced by Romanian football. I think its in a bad way. That's why we've seen some of these tiny sides leading the championship. The bigger sides in Romania look to have lost their way.
I don't fear any team in our group. I think we need to improve our team a bit in winter. We need a striker and we need a central mid. Also Mandzo looked really tired tonight and like he needs a break which doesn't bode well for Kazak match. On weekend we should start Papadopoulos and Sivonjic. Give Mandzo a bit of a rest cos he looks flat out tired.
BTW, Eduardo out for Arsenal this weekend. Jelavic called up for the NT just in case
http://www.net.hr/sport/page/2009/10/01/0534006.html?pos=n1
Good job Dinamo representing Croatia well in Europe, besides the whole BBB scuffle. (Nothing against BBB!)
I want to bring up a topic that may or may not have been brought up in the past. And DinamoFan/Ante BBB/all other Dinamo supporters please do not get offended. It is a simple question. Why was the BBB name chosen? I know why it was chosen, because of the film Bad Boys, I get that. But, why couldn't have the supporters of Dinamo choose a Croatian name for themselves? I chuckle a little bit every time I hear Bad Blue Boys on tv or if I read a croatian article online. To me, it diminishes the supporters group slightly.
And most of all, my question to the BBB supporters is if you had the option, would you prefer a croatian name for your navijaci or keep the BBB name? Lets face it, the group was started in 1986, so the history isn't there like other clubs in Europe/Croatia.