Ante, Matt, Pete, and Ante all get together at Lebo’s house for some beer, wine, and ćepavi. The Boys talk about Hajduk’s U19 run to the UEFA Youth League Final, whether Modrić’s hamstring injury is good or bad for June’s Nations League semifinal…and a fight in the neighborhood breaks out mid-podcast. Lebo safely handled the situation without assistance.
Is this the real Slavonac?? He always makes excellent points made on astute analysis and observation but I would expect more exclamation marks.
Hahaha!!!!!!
this is directed at Zoric.
you said you’re honest and that you can admit when you’re wrong…I’ll tell you why I think you’re a phony!
1) you recycled anti MODRIC and anti Mamic articles DURING THE 2018 WORLD CUP….one written by Aleksandar Holiga and the other was written by a Bosnian Serb. what type of person does it take to go against our own people when we most need them? when we got to the finals, you ended up going to support the team…thats being a hypocrite.
2) when I called you out on this site, you doubled down…you never once took a step back to say that you might have been blinded by your love for Hajduk, you just regurgitated the same old garbage about Mamic being a criminal…Croatian football has always been plagued with criminal behaviours, so is the politics in Croatia but you chose topics exactly like those losers “Torcida”…the same guys that tried to sabotage the team, the same guys that put up banners saying “sve izgubili, dabogda”, the same guys that organized the swastika, the same guys that were hell bent on getting our savez suspended and fined, the same guys that supported Kalinic when he caused issues at the Croatian camp during the World Cup…”club before country” is their attitude and it looked a lot like you were doing the same. Torcida recently announced their return to supporting the Croatian National Team….we did phenomenal without them, they’re a cancer and we don’t need them or people like them that divide the country. I’m not saying BBB are much better, there are good and bad everywhere but overall, these “fan clubs” have their positives and negatives…I don’t particularly like it when they “demand to speak to the players and coaches” or that they try to force their way into decision-making with the club….something that happened a lot with Hajduk going back a few years. They have no expertise to make decisions for anything with the club…its ludicrous that the club would have to answer to them like Hajduk did.
some people like you keep on bringing up Mamic and his criminal behaviours as if your club is “clean”, as if you’ve have never supported a club or organization thats had controversy. Lets not forget that while the political status in Croatia was was leaning more to the right, Mamic was able to do what he wanted because tons of people were like “him” but once that political status changed, he became a target. This happens all over the world…Dinamo didn’t report him it was his enemies that got their political connections to advance their objectives. This type of “CORRUPTION” has plagued Croatia in large company’s and several country’s around the world deal with this daily, Croatia is not unique….so you’re naïve if you think its a good idea to pretend Hajduk has been a clean club, or that other clubs in Croatia don’t have affiliation with a criminal entity.
at the end of the day, it was your affiliation with Hajduk that made you see all things from a Hajduk/Torcida perspective.
I have always loved Dinamo BUT I have also been a fan of Hajduk throughout my life. It wasn’t until the last 7-8 years that I realized how cancerous some people can be for our country….putting their club before our National Team…as if that club has had a history of being Holy and ethically better than the rest…this is definitely not the case. I don’t believe for a second that people at Dinamo are criminals and that people from Rijeka, Hajduk, Osijek and so on are all angels….there’s a lot of pieces to these organizations and we spectators have zero understanding what it takes to run a club.
I understand the “fan” perspective, you have to pledge your allegiance to “your” club but I grew up wanting to be a player and didn’t pay much attention to being a “fan”…so my interests have always been with the players, the journey from youth to professional, the amount of hard work and dedication it takes to get to where they are…something I believe 95% of fans know little about so when I watch Hajduk play, I can appreciate interesting players and focus on them as a Croatian playing for their club….but the main thing is that they’re one of “us”, not one of “them”….and I’m always happy to pull for that player because I want them to play for Croatia…Hajduk or Dinamo is just their path on the way to representing us all!
Haha! Dobar Dan Braco! You said it brother! Ajmo Hrvatska!!!
You are a true patriot Slavonac. I hope you will be my friend one day. You’re so strong and intelligent and your words strike me like a bolt of lightning. You must be a great friend and companion in the work force.
I totally agree with your saying “I understand the “fan” perspective, you have to pledge your allegiance to “your” club but I grew up wanting to be a player and didn’t pay much attention to being a “fan”‘. I pledge my allegiance to you Slavonac. I love you and have always wanted to be you.
Thank you for your ferociousness. You are a true Alpha, will tell my kids about you.
-(kisses)
tko je taj slavonac? zvuci kao retardiran
You are right Slavonac. I have agreed with Holiga on a few things. Just because someone is a communist-UDBA lover doesn’t mean that we both can’t agree that Mamic is bad for croatian football. Corruption will always be a problem but I want it out of the HNS. Mamic was doing what he was doing at Dinamo and many supporters of the club didn’t approve. He stole lots of money but also made them lots of money. In my opinion the HNS should always be neutral and be the Svetinja..Mamic privatized the federation and I will always say that’s wrong..I would love to see someone like Boban run the HNS but I think this is not possible because he’s too clean and too ethical.
Yes I posted the question from the journalist to Modric before the World Cup. I didn’t think he should protect mamic on the stand and that was the blowback. Now i don’t know what kind of threats Modric was getting but I don’t think he did what was right in that case. As a player Modric is the greatest croat player ever but when it comes to ideals and patriotism for me Boban is #1.
I called out Holiga often when he made negative comments about Croatia but people like you(who were blocked) didn’t see that and that’s fine. I disagree with 90-95% of his views but if someone makes a good point I’m happy to admit that. Saying someone is 100% wrong all the time is poor judgment in my opinion. I’m always open to debate but you calling me anti-croat and other things I will just block because it’s not true and the people close to me know how much croatian football means to me. I always want the best and croatian football has given me so much joy especially over the last 5 years thanks to Dalic and the boys. . I can be wrong at times and have made mistakes but my faith and love for our soccer team and our nation has never faltered.
Zoric, you said “I’m always open to debate but you calling me anti-croat and other things I will just block because it’s not true and the people close to me know how much croatian football means to me.”
I guess you can say I was pissed off that someone who is presented to us as “a Croatian soccer expert” (I know I’m exaggerating) showed up as a “pro-Hajduk” (Torcidas) supporter based on your point of view and some of the articles you were recycling…so that threw me off. Nobody is proud of criminals but they are in this sport, across the globe and I’m sure you know this. With that said, Torcidasi have used Mamic for anything and everything wrong that happened to Hajduk, removing any responsibility for their poor results for several years…and you and I both know it wasn’t Mamic that created Hajduk’s poor status as a club.
you also said “Just because someone is a communist-UDBA lover doesn’t mean that we both can’t agree that Mamic is bad for croatian football”….look Zoric, remove your Hajduk hat for a few minutes and just look at how fortunate Hajduk, Rijeka, Osijek have been to receive money from UEFA because Dinamo raised Croatia’s coefficient for European tournaments. Look at how many of the World Cup team was made up of Dinamo players and then ask yourself how and why some of these guys like Modric, Vrsaljko, Gvardiol (I’m pretty sure he’s from Zadar)…weren’t a product of the Hajduk youth academies when all of their dads most likely were/are die-hard Hajduk fans…its engrained in them since birth. with that said, Mamic MUST have done something right in order to attract these guys and their families. there are many families that moved from their towns and ended up in ZG, Mamic helped them financially, whether it was through finding them work or paying their kids. Jozak told Kvartuc that Mamic always took care of the youth academy…can you say the same for Hajduk? Mamic put Dinamo Zagreb on the map and you can say whatever you want about him, without him, I highly doubt Dinamo or Croatia would be where they are today…period….he’s certainly a criminal but then again so are many
“Barcelona and its former presidents Sandro Rosell and Josep Maria Bartomeu are facing corruption charges in Spain for making payments to the former vice president of the refereeing committee”
“Juventus paying off refs”
“Manchester City charged by Premier League with numerous alleged breaches of financial rules”
“UEFA’s classified preliminary investigation on bribery of Bayern Munich by Zenit FC. The file is signed by Rudolf Stinner on April 5, 2009.”
this list can go on and on and on and we know what Berlusconi did, what Sepp Blatter did, what Platini did and we most likely know what happens in Croatia on a daily basis…Agrokor is a massive example and there are tons more in Croatian politics so when a person is part of the culture…it doesn’t surprise me to see someone like Mamic pop up and believe me, nobody from Hajduk would complain if your club has won 17 out of 18 seasons and if your bank accounts were filled with millions of Euro’s.
Do I really think you’re anti Croatia…NO, but I do think you fall under the “Torcida” type of fan…and those guys have tunnel vision.
Gvardiol is born and raised in Zagreb
Yes you’re right but I read his family is from Zadar
Yes he’s dads from Novigrad and ended up spending a lot of time in Novigrad during the holidays and what not and not to mention Joško is a very Dalmo name compared to other alternatives in Croatia.
His parents are from Zadar
You don’t know me..If there was a mamic like figure at Hajduk I would admit that it’s not right what he’s doing. Mamic didn’t own the team but he took out funds and acted like he did. I especially don’t like that Markovic/Srebric let him take over the national team politics. He did a lot of good for those players he sold but he also made himself very rich in the process and did it illegally. I’ve had enough Mamic talk he got what he deserved.
Hajduk has its own problems. 18 years without a championship. I don’t blame mamic for that. We have our own issues and things to improve. We have some good young players coming up and hope they can help Hajduk win a championship over next couple of years. Have a nice day
But there are and always have been Mamic-like figures at Hajduk.
I recall Stimac, Plete, Srna and Stimac’s brother cashing out on their transfer to Shakhtar, leaving Hajduk with almost nothing.
Not too long ago, Hajduk’s former director (Fredi Fiorentini) was essentially charged with the same thing as what Mamic was charged with.
I highly doubt you ever bashed these guys for doing what they did to Hajduk.
The difference is that Mamic is competent.
Neither BBB nor Torcida like their corrupt team officials, but I think it’s Mamic’s competence in developing the best talent, clean sweeping the HNL, and outwitting incompetent guys like Stimac, Fiorentini, Brbic, etc that pisses off Torcida the most.
So they lash out at the National Team because they’ve associated it with Dinamo and the Mamic brothers…but if Mamic is quick to scoop up all the young talent in Croatia, then of course the National Team is going to be dominated by Dinamo players.
Torcida are in the wrong for going after the National Team. They were being used by the media, who are always trying to fabricate some sort of North vs South divide (that never existed). There are many who would have loved to usurp Mamic from his position and were using the media to turn the court of public opinion against him (although he did make it very easy for people to do this).
Also, siding with a trojan horse Yugophile like Aleksandar Holiga (whose sole purpose is to pose as a Croat for British sports portals and try to slander modern day Croatia) is never the right thing to do.
Holiga isn’t your friend and doesn’t care about your opinion. He uses guys like you, and you’re nothing but a useful idiot for him. Never retweet or share (or agree) with anything he posts, because it’s all in an attempt to diminish Croatia and promote Yugoslavian hegemony.
Bravo Maminjo!
Maminjo, just remember this Pejakovic song!
Iste smo pjesme, dušo mi svirali
Tamburicu ja, mandolinu ti
Iste su pjesme naše o ljubavi
U Dalmaciji i Slavoniji
…But there are and always have been Mamic-like figures at Hajduk.
I recall Stimac, Plete, Srna and Stimac’s brother cashing out on their transfer to Shakhtar, leaving Hajduk with almost nothing.
Not too long ago, Hajduk’s former director (Fredi Fiorentini) was essentially charged with the same thing as what Mamic was charged with.
I highly doubt you ever bashed these guys for doing what they did to Hajduk.
The difference is that Mamic is competent.
Neither BBB nor Torcida like their corrupt team officials, but I think it’s Mamic’s competence in developing the best talent, clean sweeping the HNL, and outwitting incompetent guys like Stimac, Fiorentini, Brbic, etc that pisses off Torcida the most.
So they lash out at the National Team because they’ve associated it with Dinamo and the Mamic brothers…but if Mamic is quick to scoop up all the young talent in Croatia, then of course the National Team is going to be dominated by Dinamo players.
Torcida are in the wrong for going after the National Team. They were being used by the media, who are always trying to fabricate some sort of North vs South divide (that never existed). There are many who would have loved to usurp Mamic from his position and were using the media to turn the court of public opinion against him (although he did make it very easy for people to do this).
Also, siding with a trojan horse Yugophile like Aleksandar Holiga (whose sole purpose is to pose as a Croat for British sports portals and try to slander modern day Croatia) is never the right thing to do.
Holiga isn’t your friend and doesn’t care about your opinion. He uses guys like you, and you’re nothing but a useful idiot for him. Never retweet or share (or agree) with anything he posts, because it’s all in an attempt to diminish Croatia and promote Yugoslavian hegemony.
…But there are and always have been Mamic-like figures at Hajduk.
I recall Stimac, Plete, Srna and Stimac’s brother cashing out on their transfer to Shakhtar, leaving Hajduk with almost nothing.
Not too long ago, Hajduk’s former director (Fredi Fiorentini) was essentially charged with the same thing as what Mamic was charged with.
I highly doubt you ever bashed these guys for doing what they did to Hajduk.
The difference is that Mamic is competent.
Neither BBB nor Torcida like their corrupt team officials, but I think it’s Mamic’s competence in developing the best talent, clean sweeping the HNL, and outwitting incompetent guys like Stimac, Fiorentini, Brbic, etc that pisses off Torcida the most.
So they lash out at the National Team because they’ve associated it with Dinamo and the Mamic brothers…but if Mamic is quick to scoop up all the young talent in Croatia, then of course the National Team is going to be dominated by Dinamo players.
Torcida are in the wrong for going after the National Team. They were being used by the media, who are always trying to fabricate some sort of North vs South divide (that never existed). There are many who would have loved to usurp Mamic from his position and were using the media to turn the court of public opinion against him (although he did make it very easy for people to do this).
Also, siding with a trojan horse Yugophile like Aleksandar Holiga (whose sole purpose is to pose as a Croat for British sports portals and try to slander modern day Croatia) is never the right thing to do.
Holiga isn’t your friend and doesn’t care about your opinion. He uses guys like you, and you’re nothing but a useful idiot for him. Never retweet or share (or agree) with anything he posts, because it’s all in an attempt to diminish Croatia and promote Yugoslavian hegemony.
Excellent comments Slavonic and Maminjo
Always interesting how hajdukavci have a selective memory. They really are club over country. 😁
I’m supposed to be a Hajdukovac…but I can’t stand anything that resembles Yugo/Orjun garbage and sometimes that is how some Torcidaši carry themselves.
The history and passion is there, but they’re like the New York Knicks of Croatian football.
A storied club being ruined by gross incompetence.
I like what I’m seeing lately. Jakobušić is a proven winner and they seem to be integrating their youth into the first team.
The last names of some of these youth players still makes me nervous (because they’re obviously the kids of former players, so that nepotism is still there) but if they’re winning Youth Leagues then it’s all good. They just need to hold the line, and keep these youngsters in the team for a few more years. No need to sell and no need to bring in old players to take time away from them. They have enough vets under contract already.
Ok Vatreni I have just one question ?…does that blonde of yours have a sister 🥰
It’s strange that is my sister 😂 her photo is somehow linked to my email. Sorry she’s taken but I do have a younger sister that’s single haha
je li ovo bio sastanak velikih mozgova????