Photo: UEFA
FIFA, the governing body for world football, has cleared Brazilian-born Dinamo Zagreb striker Jorge Sammir Cruz Campos to play for Croatia on the international stage. The 24 year-old moved to Croatia in 2006 at the age of 19 to play for Dinamo Zagreb on loan from Brazilian club Atletico Paranaense. He was later bought by the current Croatian champions and has scored 68 goals in 292 appearances since.
Sammir holds a Croatian passport but has absolutely no connection to Croatian bloodline or heritage. The man is clearly Brazilian but not talentd enough to make the Brazilian national team. CroatianSports.com does not support Sammir playing for the repka and hopes that Slaven Bilić keeps him off the squad during his tenure. Unlike Eduardo, Croatia’s adopted son, who moved to Croatia at the young age of 15 and eventually married a Croatian woman and has Croatian children, Sammir is only looking to play international football.
CroatianSports.com article from September 2010 on Sammir playing for Croatia
Croatian fans in Split talk about Sammir playing for Croatia in the summer of 2011
Players from other countries can be very suitable for the Croatian football. They have a killer instinct for creating goals during major competitions, this is what is missing in Croatian players.
Good examples are the European Championship game against Turkey where Eduardo was missing and the world champion match against France where Lilian Thuram scored 2 x.
Just look at other top European countries. Oziel plays for Germany. Ibrahim Afellay for Netherlands and what about Zidane? He is also no French man of origin!
To compete with the European top teams we should definitely open to foreign players. But apparently most of us so stupid not to see that in and it will still take years before we finally got our brains use go!
ante as i said to denis i respect both of you for what you have done for this site since this was known as croatian soccer report, bur just i have to clarify something mexican are racist agianst other latinamericans that are in the country either living there or just passing by waiting to cross to the usa side of the border dont getme wrong but dont be foole by then cause they in USA play like a victims like everybody en discriminated them, while in their country they treat other latin americans like a garbage just for not been mexicans, but as i said i understand your point of view with respect of sammir i dont defend him the reason i post it is because i saw this two wallace and dukic insulting and being racist against sammir i hate ,ppl that are haters of other ppl just because their skin color.
When you argue with an idiot. There are 2 idiots. This will be the last time I ever address or respond to you.
I never said any of those things and you are a fool.
Go reverse 69 fingerbang LatinAmerica’s sphincter.
@mommy professor, why are you against White people? You try to divide White people with your ‘racial purity’ nonsense in a time when my race, the White race is in danger of becoming extinct within this century. What’s your problem?
Maybe something a 6 year old can understand will provide a clearer picture for U: http://i.imgur.com/aTNO2.jpg
Ante: “The website is more than just sports reporting and the opinions of the editors, it’s a place where all Croatian sports fans opinions may be heard. So please bring this conversation there. Every opinion in every debate is valued”
Yea okay, meanwhile you’re always erasing my comments b/c they’re politically incorrect. You erased 4 of my comments under the ‘Zero to Euro’ article.
This is what I wrote on CroatianSports.com’s Facebook page following a few followers’ dislike of our views on the whole Sammir debate:
Eduardo was the exception to the rule. A one-time pass. I consider moving to a country at 15 still being a kid. 19 was not for Sammir. He was already an adult being loaned out on business from his Brazilian club. If it was not for business he wouldn’t be able to point Croatia out on a map today. Eduardo picked Croatia at 15 not knowing if he would get any return on his investment. He did it blindly knowing that nothing was certain but still learning the culture and marrying in.
I personally am very protective of the Croatian culture and who wears the checkers because of the war. Croatia is still identifying themselves and this puts a blemish on our identity. Not only is Sammir not talented enough to play for CRO but he also isn’t Croatian. My point: if Brazil calls him up tomorrow, not a chance he stands by his attempt to play for Croatia. Also, where do we draw the line? I say at Eduardo. By this rule, next campaign, 11 Brazilians can come over to Croatia at age 18, get their papers, claim they love Croatia and then what? 11 guys not knowing one word or the meaning to Lijepa Nasa. Also for Sammir, Mamic will try to push him on the team so his transfer sale becomes more with international caps. Lots of variables why HE SHOULD NOT play.
In the end, CSR believes in losing with 11 of our own than winning with ‘rented’ players. The website is more than just sports reporting and the opinions of the editors, it’s a place where all Croatian sports fans opinions may be heard. So please bring this conversation there. Every opinion in every debate is valued, so it hurts me to see that your opinion of the site has changed on this stance. We are not politicians and we will not feed you politically correct answers so everyone is happy. We are fans as well. And on this stance, we kindly choose to disallow Sammir from wearing the Croatian shirt.”
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In addition to that, let me touch on the following subject. Croatia and other national teams, in essence, are private clubs. Just because FIFA says a certain player is eligible for a team, doesn’t mean that team has to take them. And if they don’t take them, they shouldn’t be labeled racists etc.
Look at Mexican club team Chivas Guadalajara. They ONLY fieled players from Mexican heritage. Should they be labeled as racist? Absolutely NOT! It’s their club and they could do whatever they’d like to to promote their club and win. If they choose the Mexican-only route, more power to them on their journey of maintaining Mexican heritage.
Augusta golf club in Georgia, USA (home of the Masters tournament) does not allow women to be members. Once again, that is up to them.
If you want to be like The Little Rascals and have your own ‘He-man Woman Haters club’ then go for it. Private clubs are private clubs and you cannot have non-members dicate how you run your club.
In my eyes, Croatia is a private club, and they only way you get in is if you’re Croatian AND good enough to play. If it was up to me, every international team on this planet would have players from that nation, coaches from that nation and even water boys from that nation. Simple as that.
@latin american,
Thanks for answering my questions. welcome!
Everyone has their own definition of what a player needs to be in order to have the honor of wearing the Croatian shirt.
I’m not sure on Rossi and his full background but I do know that he was born and raised in Croatia. That in my book qualifies you for the national team.
Gordon Schildenfeld was also born and raised in Croatia. Once again, in my book, Croatian.
Blood is important, but how far back do you want to trace it.
Drazen Petrovic is 50% Serbian. Drazen was born and raised in Croatia and declared himself Croatian. Should Croatia not let him play because he has serbian blood? I think not. Not because he was great, but because he was 1) born and raised in Croatia and has 50% Croatian blood. Thats enough in my book.
Sammir is a “guest worker” in Croatia. He came after the age of 18. Make your money, live in the country, but thats all you get. Now, if he lives in Croatia with his brazilian wife(I think she’s brazilian), and they have a kid born and raised in Croatia, then that kid will have an option to play for both Croatia or Brazil. Again, just my opinion.
In an ideal world, the Croatian national team should be players that were born and raised in Croatia to Croatian parents. However, with globalization, that will never happen ever again. Croatia will always have a couple Schildenfields, Rosso’s, Prso’s, Petrovic’s, etc etc…
We must have read a different book. At least you are trashing an “English White Brother”
i forgot to say something im peruvian-american and im not against countries to have only white population or only white players but what i hate the most is ppl that is racist just read tsome post of some ppl that even insult sammir or eduardo and if you read my first post you will see i even defended to of your country men giavani rosso and the guy that have the name gordon i think his last name is german if im not mistaken cause i see many ppl saying if you dont have croatian last name you could be croatian but not havr croat blood im not saying that i read that in this post but in older post even when this site was called croatian soccer report i’ve been fallowed you national team from long time with that i hope i answer you
Denis Svirčić just want to say i respect the job you and ante have been done for this site for your country and i wasnt en playing that all croats are utasa just i was refering to wallace and dukic, and let me tell you with all my respect , first of all i,m not brazilian, i’m latin american that word only appies to spanish speakers not to portuguese speakers cause latinamericanis = to say hispanic brazilian dont speak spanish they speak portuguese they’re consider inside the latin family wich is different from latinoamerica, because inside the latin family are the languages of, spanish, portuguese, italian,and romanian, in respect from where i writing from USA in the opposite side where youare now if you are in the west coast i’m on the east coast i hope that i answer your question.
@Black zodiac, when will anti-whites allow whites somewhere on the planet to say no to mass immigration and “assimilation” like all the non-white countries? When your limbs are torn off? When we`re 5% of the global population? 1%? 0.1%? Read the genocide law. Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.
Denis: “anyone that crosses the Croatian boarder under the age of 18 will be treated as an “adopted son.”
So if one million Chinese 17 year olds and under cross the Croatian border, you consider them “adopted sons/daughters”???
You’re wrong Denis, it’s all about race, our race is being obliterated, wake the fuck up.
anyone that crosses the Croatian boarder under the age of 18 will be treated as an “adopted son.”
http://i.imgur.com/aTNO2.jpg
@mommy professor, I have that book, it’s a lot of bullshit written by an anti-Croat englishman. The Mongols also invaded Russia, do you actually believe Maria Sharapova has even one ounce of Oriental blood in her??? Open your eyes and don’t believe everything you read.
Anyway, you missed my point, it’s not about racial purity, anti-Whites define who we Whites are all the time – we’re the ones not eligable for special rights and privileges that non-Whites get; White countries are the ones and the ONLY ones that anti-Whites demand must accept third world immigration and “assimilation”.
@”latin”_american, you’re only calling us “nazis” and “racists” because we’re white, anti-racist is a code word for anti-white. If diversity and multiCULTuralism is so great, why do we keep it for ALL and ONLY White countries?
@latin_American…
Tell us a little bit about yourself. Where are you writing us from? What is your background? I am assuming that you are Brazilian and a fan of Sammir.
You can be against Ustasa, but let me tell you this:
1) Not all Croatians are ustasa
2) You dont have to be ustasa to be Croatian
3) Croatians are not racist if Croatians want Croatians playing for Croatia. In my opinion, anyone that crosses the Croatian boarder under the age of 18 will be treated as an “adopted son.” Again, just my opinion.
I will be the first to say that I was 100% against Eduardo when he first wore the U-21 Croatia shirt. The first thing I said was “What the f…… eduardo who?” But after I read his story, I accepted him by choice as our adopted son.
Sammir on the other hand came to Croatia as a 19-year-old man. Sammir wouldn’t even hesitate at a Brazilian call up. Since that will never happen, he’s second choice is Croatia.
This has nothing to do with Sammir’s race, skin color, nor how good of a player he is. I wouldn’t take Messi on Croatia. Why? because Messi is NOT Croatian.
@Wallace:
You missed my point. Hungary was invaded by Mongols. The country’s genetics and language reflect this.
Croatia has been influenced genetically by many invaders over the millennia. With that being said, IMHO EU membership for Croatia is a mistake.
There is a great book called Croatia: A Nation Forged in War. I think you would like it. Please get to a church and stay away from American heretical nonsense. You are better than that.
@Latin American:
Que?????? The Allies did tons of horrendous things during WW2 including the nuclear devastation of two civilian targets. To the winner goes the spoils and control of the history books.
I don’t go to Ecuadorian websites and complain about the banana plantations, we really don’t need your feedback.
dukic and wallace just to words for you you’re nazi sympathizers and are uthase like your government teach you when they were collaborators and criminals as their nazi masters 🙂
Those pesky niggers and their multiCULTism when will those mommy professor Pavlov dogs learn their lessons.
@Raptore, why don’t you grow a pair of balls and stop being a submissive bitch giving Croatia to foreign races. Take a look at how blacks and mulattos treat their own women in their own countries. You also need to understand that advocating non-white immigration and assimilation for all and ONLY White countries is advocating White genocide; that’s a crime. Be carefull. anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.
@mommy professor, if Hungarians aren’t White, why aren’t they eligable for affirmative action and other special rights and privileges that non-whites get?
1. Try to imagine how much brainwashing it would take to convince all the Asians living in Asia, that they need to go ahead and replace themselves (in Asia) with North African Muslims???
2. Now imagine that they were so totally mind conditioned and brainwashed. That they really believed it would be RACIST not to???
If you manage to do that: Welcome to the world of the white Anti-Whites!
So my question is: Can anyone think of something dumber than a white Anti-White???
@latin america
are you ok in the head? what are you blabbing about? croatians are mostly all white. its not racist we just want croatians to play for croatia.
@Wallace:
It is time to start writing the same comments in the Petrovic article. Do you just cut and paste the same comments?
By the way Hungarians are still Hungarian even though they have Mongol blood.
To dukic and Wallace thats racist a country that only wants only white population is because they are racist they just one to have just one race thats it . as i said you’re behaving like the serbs a etnic race that you hate, cause serbs are like that racist but in them are something funny they only care about etnic serbs but there’s kolarov,ninkov, volkov, suleimani,is funny non of those players have serbian names or surnames they look to me the fisrst three russiian or bulgarian surnames even they were borned in serbia and suleimani sounds like muslim surname even he was borned there in serbia too plus the guy that boycotted the game italy-serbia he said he was serbian ultra nationalist but with a serbian or bulgarian surname he has, the point is one just want white ppl in your country is racist, dukic and wallace grow up , as i said if you dont like the guy sammir or eduardo da silva just ask your government to take they croatian nationality away and live isolated as a country with just one race, so in the way out to the door tell giovani rosso and the guy in your national team that with the name gordon i don remember his last name that bacuse you dont consider them croats cause they dont have a croatian lastname even those two were borned in croatia , and yes i speak spanish and english.
FIFA should not allow national teams to look like club teams….period. Where most of your bloodline comes from should be the determining factor. Who would be upset or insulted by this?
@Raptore
“If he’s good enough to play, which he is”
We must be talking about two different guys. Sammir is good in the HNL, but that’s the only place he’s good.
he is not good enough. plain and simple, he can be fucking any other race i don’t care but he is not good enough. who’s spot is he gonna take?
I’m wearing a brown bag over my head for the Mets Marlins game in April. On the back, it will say Reyes can go to hell. LETS GO METS BABY!
@Raptore…..there will not be 4-5 nonhrvati on the repka in 5 years. Just a flat wrong statement. And you can go ahead and take your 5 Brazilians because we are not going to win with the second and third-tier Brazilians. But, I’ll play along….lets say we do win a Euro with 5 brazilians…..I’m sure the vicitory parade in Rio would be weatched by many hrvati on TV. This is not about beign abitch, simply about wanting hrvati on the repka.
@Salinovic………..your list of Under 23 future stars. Kovacic is the only one on the list you mentioned that will do anything on the international level. Badelj is too slow, Sharbini???? really. What games do you watch. Ticinovic????? LOL
God forbid is players like Vukusic, Cop, Sliskovic, Kramaric, and Santini makes the repka and are our building blocks. You can add in the human pinboard in Delac as well.
@ For all those Mets fans earlier in this thread that chimed in
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okXhAC78d4Q
Season Preview for the 2011-2012 season. I think the Mets have a lot of promise…
A lot of you apparently know nothing about football and know nothing about the Croatian talent….have you forgot about half the Under 23 players who are stars to be? .. Badelj, Kovacic, Ademi, Z.Pamic, Tomecak, Sharbini, Ticinovic, and some strikers… Vukusic, Cop, Sliskovic, Kramaric, Santini… okay okay those are the up and commers! you forget about our current Midfield ?..I’m not going to name them off.. but look at Sammir.. wow.. he plays for Dinamo in the HNS.. wow.. big f’n deal!.. he’s a damn nobody!!! Now.. since SOME of you may not know.. they’re are other Croatians that play around Europe.. yeah.. that’s right.. they play for better teams, play in better competition as well… No way, no how, do we need Sammir.. if Slaven was going to call somebody up it be one of the young up n comers. This has nothing to do with racism, it has to do with him not having the ability to play Internationally with the great Croatia. We are top 10 in the world for how long? and we did just fine without Sammir 🙂 . Sure he’s decent player and Mamic would loooooove to make some money off his brazilian ass.. but it will never happen. Search about those younger Croatian players I’ve named off, and soon you will learn why there is no place for Sammir. If he was truly all that good, you don’t think Sammir would been called up like Dudu?. Dudu is great, goal scoring machine, don’t compare Mr.Da Silva to Sammir, ’cause Sammir has nothing on Eduardo. Let Sammir go to England or Spain.. or even Germany, let’s see what he can do there, and than maybe he’d have shot. Who give’s a fuck if he’s Brazilian, who gives a fuck if he came to Croatia on loan, at the age of 18 or whatever it was… He isn’t qualified enough to play for such a proud team like Croatia. — as for these stupid comments about World War II.. shut up this is a chat for Croatian football .. all and all.. who cares about Sammir, Mamic need’s to shut the fuck up because all he want’s his money.
Jebeš Dinamo, Idemo Hajduk
Man yall a bunch of sissies, Who cares, another Brazilian, just wait until the invasion hits Cro for real when this Euro Union shiit starts in 2013, you’ll see more & more non Cros playing for the repka, im predicting 4-5 by 2017..
Stop being a bunch of pussies & get on with it, If Sammir is Good enough, which he is, then why not, Id be happy to take another 5 Brazilians in our NT if it helps us win a Euro, hell yeah, no body is going to remember & say, oh shiit hang on Croatia won that euro with 5 Brazilians so that doesnt count, hell no, it will be printed into history that they were a good team..& isnt that all that counts, getting our small Nations name out there..
Stop being bitches & grow some jaja..
@mysterion
relax buddy, my bad dudu not duda
Haha you will see he will cry racism and then FIFA will force him onto the team. Take the German Marco you fools.
@Ante B
Brazil game still takes the cake for me. I didn’t know we had a lot of support behind hockey.
@Everybody
Liking the icons guys. Helps me put a picture to the name.
Forgot to post this from a couple of days ago, Lijepa Naša set to music and a drum solo. LEGENDARY!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nC40AHV1UL4&feature=player_embedded
@Poglavnik, think of WWII, “imagine” if the U.S., U.K, Germany, France, Russia, with all their allies (including Japan) came to their senses and decided instead of killing eachother and risk losing their colonies (as Britain then lost its Crown Jewel – India), they decided to just colonize the rest of the non-White world; who would have stopped them?
the purpose of the euros, world cup, olympics, etc… was to see which nation was most dominant in said sport. it doesn t really hold water these days, because sport has become such a huge business that practically every country is guilty of poaching athletes from other countries they either colonized or athletes that were naturalized (some more than others, of course).
it definitely defeated the initial purpose, however countries want to win at all cost…
i would still not take Sammir though, as some earlier posters wrote he s no better than any player we currently have and he is NOT Croatian.
don t be fooled though, i am sure the hns would take him if he was better… look at dontaye draper with the basketball repka, and of course dudu, who played for the u-21 s before he married croatian…
@latin_american,
Do you speak Latin? Are you Roman? Describe what you mean by “race-ist”? Croatians wanting Croatia to stay White is “race-ist” according to you? Name a non-White population that you insist should “mix” and “blend” itself out of existence in their own country? or are you only anti-White.
@latin american
sto ti govoris? ne seri.
@Poglavnik, who said anything about “racial purity”? It’s simple, White countries are the ones anti-Whites insist must accept hundreds of millions of third worlders and “assimilate” with them. White people are the ones not eligable for affirmative action and other special rights that non-Whites get. There’s a about a billion Whites in the world, the problem is there’s enough non-Whites in our countries to “assimilate” us out of existence; non-White countries don’t have this problem of mass amounts of foreign races in their countries with their governments forcing them to integrate and “assimilate”. Don’t be such a pessimist, things can change in the blink of an eye.
I read most of the post and i see a racist post cause i believe your acting like the rivals or your enemy that your hate the most your acting like Serbs cause they are very racist and i know i could get erase or ban from here but before you do that analized yourself i understand you dont want non-croatian in your repka but even the racist serb use non-serbs in their national team suleimani es and example you could say he is born in serbia or kolarov to me he sounds like bulgarian or russian name even he was borned in serbia but suleimani and kolarov are not serb names but they are serbian even are not etnic serbs so just analize your self your been more racist that serbs the ones that you hate most and with that atituted against sammir you think you’re better than them to me you’re getting equal or worst more racist than the serbs with still dream of sometime to get their goal of greater serbia wich will include croatian in the far feature just think the way your acting even sammir and eduardo werent borned in croatian they are croats either you like it or not if you dont liker them in your national team them complain not yo your FA complain to your government for given them croatian passport and nationality
Dude,
Eduardos nickname is Dudu. Duda is a pacifier. You calling him a baby or what?
if u can accept eduardo u have to accept sammir! why not say yes to sammir? because he never came to cro at 18? he’s not married to a croatian? bunch of bullshit!!!!! from all of you who like duda and cant stand sammir. is he good enough to play for national team? who cares? thats not the point. every one is bashing this guy cause he has no croatian bloodlines. if you bash sammir you have to bash duda! duda has no croatian bloodlines, and calling him our adopted son? people wake up and smell the coffee because all you are doing is sugar coating this “adopted son” phrase. dont get me wrong i like duda but everyone is so judge mental and say its ok for 1 brazilian to play and not another one. if the fucking guy can help cro do some damage at the euros or in the future i say get that man a checkerd jersey.
No, no and no. He is not a Croat!
Do you understand the meaning of the term *NATIONAL* team? If this passes – before you know it, our soccer team is going to look like France.
A peace of paper (passport) does not a Croat make. We are not the US or Australia or Canada. We have 1500 years of history.
If he’s so good let him play for Brazil and good luck to him.
If he gets called by Bilic, I’m boycotting the Repka for the Euro.
@Golden Child & Ziva:
I agree.
za hajduk se ne navija, za hajduk se zivi! we arent just sports fans we live for this buddy.
Calm down there Wallace. Why do i think integration is inevitable? Ummm, I don’t know, how about opening your eyes a bit. FIFA allowing Sammir to play for Hrvatska’s a perfect example. Then you read shit about red-heads becoming extinct and the dwindling percentage of real blondes in the world, and etc etc, you start to come to these conclusions. As far as your betting odds for a war of pure whites vs anyone with any colour in them, I think the coloured bunch might be favoured.
I’m not going to off a tangent here so I’ll just say I love America and Croatia. This is a sports site, no more of this “OMG I LOVE CROATIA YES, DON’T RIP ME OF MY PRIDE”. I’m a victim of that believe but sometimes people push it too far. Just like most Europeans push it too far with sports. The fact is whoever rips Eduardo is a clown and is an ungrateful fan.
@anonymous
The first time I’ve looked at an Anonymous post and said, “that guy has got a good point”
What makes people veliki hrvati isuse boze hrvat je hrvat a ne ka cujem ja sam veliki hrvat ja ovo ja ono mrs u kurac Hrvat je Hrvat nema tu veliki ni mali. Tko ne slusa Vucu nije Hrvat haa.
@ website owners
Why isn’t there a clock counting down till euros start?
@Dukic
ajme tebi, sad si vratio u americi, kad se vratis iduci put koliko vremena cu proc dok priznaju te kao hrvat. haha just kidding, on a lighter note to all of u fake croats, I am the number one veliki hrvat as my name implies, I was named after a king, so all of u are pesants to me. haha ok time for real conversation
Gettin f’in pumped for euro’s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2yTxmLG48k&feature=related
@Everyone,
Please sign up under “forums”. All you need is an email and a password.
This should
1) keep you signed in all the time
2) Give you access to all of our articles
3) Give you a chance to write a piece if interested
4) Give you access to all the comments sorted by date
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zivio sam u hrvatskoj 6 godina stari i uzelo me 3 godine da me primu ko hrvat. im sorry for getting pissed i just know most of the people here speak out of their ass and they dont know what true football is. they just know the top 10 teams in the world and blabber. it is disrespectful to the sport.
@TheGoldenChild……so true, the people in Cro view us as idiots for our right-wing views among a host of reasons. And you know what, that is fine with me. I am better than the clowns over there, much better. I do love Croatia more than the average seljak over there. Those fuckers (the average citizen) don’t give a shit about national pride. They are lazy and if they had their choice many would go back to the socialist system of yesteryear.
TO EVERYONE HERE AGAINST EDUARDO JEBI TE SE, WHERE WERE YOU EURO 2008 O YES CELBRATING AND THINKING WE WERE THE BET O YEAH BUT WAIT NO EDUARDO NO EURO 2008! 10 GOALS IN 12 GAMES SO PLEASE!
@Poglavnik, why is “integration inevitable”? There’s no racial integration happening in Asian nor Black countries. Are you that stupid and/or weak to think there’s nothing we can do to stop White geNOcide? I got an idea whereby nobody gets hurt, stop letting non-Whites into White countries and outlaw miscegenation. Personally, I could care less what non-Whites do with eachother.
You do realize that all brown countries and brown parts of countries are complete failures and have always been, unless they are standing on oil, which Whites found and are paying them a fortune for.
Truly, it’s stupid people like you who can’t think and/or are too weak to fight that turn politics into violent war. What’s the odds Vegas would give on Whites in a final race war btwn Whites against all other races? Of course, I highly doubt some other races would be stupid enough to fight against us.
@everybody
On another note, this whole I’m sooo fucking Croatian thing really digs into me a little. As much as all of you love being Hrvati, and tryyyyy sooooo hardddd to show how much you are…. I’m not sure what you’re trying to prove. I’m not here to question how much of a seljak or dalmatinac or mut you may be.
In the end, all of you born here know when you you go back, the locals will still look at you as an Americanac. Maybe your family doesn’t say it, but everybody else in the village is thinking it. So I’m not sure if this has what has affected your psyche and grown the need to send you into a induced “I’m a pravi hrvat” rage, but whatever it is…I don’t much give a fuck.
People show who they are in many different ways, and not everybody is going to agree. I just ask you to please not attack me or anybody else for that matter, because you don’t think they’re thinking as RIGHT or LEFT wing as you are. Arguments like this remind of the old men arguing about politics all day. Couldn’t stand it then, can’t stand it now.
@Ziva Istina, if Croats were pacifists, there’d be no Croatia.
Most of us on this sight I’m assuming are first generation North American Croatians. The fact the we squabble about maintaining our heritage, and what makes us good Croatians or not, actually makes me feel good. I wonder how many other countries have 2nd & 3rd generation people arguing about their heritage like we do. We bicker because we care and that’s a good sign. Unfortunately integration is inevitable in the world. In another two thousand years (if Earth survives that long) the whole world is gonna be brown, and there’s nothing we can do about it. So just enjoy Hrvatska the way it is for the next few generations because after that there are gonna be bigger issues in the world than integration.
@Dukic, you, Misko, IvicA, Mihovil, and me should go to Croatia and hang the race traitors; I gaurantee the vast majority of the military and police who get paid to protect them would turn their guns around and point in their faces (still get paid) and lead them to the hang men. That’s how the real world works.
@Dukic
Wow buddy. Looks like you took my comments a little to much to heart. I was in 98 as well for 3 months. I don’t really need to know why you love Croatia so much…that’s your business. And when it comes to who loves it the most, if it makes you feel better, I’ll let you have this one.
I was born here but will always say that I’m Croatian over American. So believe what you’d like. Thanks
At a time like this we should all be emulating the following:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkZC7sqImaM
@AnteB, what’s a mommy professor? and who invented that term?
You avoided everything I said and focused on one word or the way I spelled it. That’s the same as avoiding everything one says no matter how true simply b/c one happened to use the word nigger – THAT is what mommy professor teaches his kids – avoid reality and just call the heretic a “raaaysiss”.
I’m no damn Yankee, even though I live in L.A. I’ve got more of a Southern attitude. And for those that care to know, I was born in L.A. but raised on a farm outside of Daruvar. I love the smell of diesel coming from tractors, I was living there when we sung Yugoslavio in the back of trailors. The first time I saw a black person when I came back to L.A. I said to my mother, “Oh there’s gypsies here also”. Every other summer I went back to work on the farm and we’d have two weeks where my cousins would take me to the Adriatic for vacation and the Communist Serbs had the best places paid for by the party.
Croatia is one of only a handful of white countries left that hasn’t embraced this jewish force fed notion or lie of the joys of “multiculturalism”. Let me take you to Compton at night or a mestizo neighborhood at night and see how your white asses get “embraced”.
It’s time to stop turning the other check and say NO. Croatians have a long culture and history, and we need to not only remember that, but live it, and foster it. Just look at America, how much longer before the majority of white America is racially finished, 20 years?
For the record my statements aren’t “racist” for you antifa faggots, it’s the truth. We are a small country, but we are large in heart and talent. And adding something like this guy to the NT would be a disaster, not so much for the team, but for who we are, as a people and our GENETIC IDENTITY. And as far as I can tell, it’s genetic because 100% of the Croatians that I know, and the ones that I’m related to, aren’t halfricans.
ZA DOM SPREMI =U=
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I prefer being called a Met personally. I’m from New York and hate the Yankees. If that’s what you’re referring to about being a Yank that I’m from New York well then please call me a Met (sarcasm).
Don’t you live in America you hypocrite. You calling me a Yank yet you’re a Yank too genius. Don’t you think that I don’t know your one of those West coasters. Too much comedy on this site, we need Croatia national team soccer ASAP. Also an Eduardo goal so I cheer and rub in this delusional man’s face.
a ja mrzim Giants i Dodgers. Uglavnom nisam ljubitelj baseballa ali posto sam roden u Chicagu na sjevernom djelu grada, navijam za klub koji nije osvojio prvenstvo vec vise od 100 god…i ne, nije hajduk 🙂 nego the loveable losers themselves, the Chicago Cubs.
Ja nisam……ja mrzim Yankees i red sox
Forgot to add: ponosan sam sto sam Yankee i Hrvat
Signed,
Ante B.
@Wallace,
I think it’s funny that you drone on about mommy and daddy professors, yet you use words like “Ustasha” which is typical mommy and daddy professor rhetoric. You truly are a ‘internets’ cliche…
@Sammir on the repka,
NEVER!
If any of you who support Sammir can name one person who he is better than at his current position on the repka, I’m all ears. My position is, and will always be NO! Comparing him to Dudustaša is like saying that briškula is better than belot; clearly some of you are so open minded that your brains leaked out.
@Dukicu,
S obzirom da se ovaj site zove CROATIAN Sports, svako ima pravo na svoje misljenje, bilo to na hrvatskom ili na engleskom jeziku, svidjelo se to nama ili ne. Ja volim Hrvatsku i Ameriku jednako (pogotovo jelo). Poenta svega jest da ovaj site nije samo za ‘nas’ but for all who love and want to discuss Croatian sports, even though the overwhelming majority don’t speak or know Croatian. You can chalk it up to ignorance, I guess.
i really love reading these pissing contests on this site about who is the bigger Hrvat, who is the realest Hrvat, etc. It’s endless with our people… Feel like I’m in a room with 50 djedovi..
If 5 million Chinese people invaded Croatia and killed all the Croatians, but adopted the Croatian language and “culture”, would it still be Croatia? What about if these Chinese inter-married with the Croats instead and created a Croatian speaking mongralized race in Croatia – you’d still consider these people “Croatian”?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3exldTLGTo
Being a Croatian nationalist while at the same time being against White nationalists is the same as being a Jew, b/c that’s exactly what Jews do. If you think Ustasha or the people who actually did the fighting (war is the continuation of politics by other means) for Croatian Independence weren’t White nationalists, then you need to outgrow your mommy professor college education quick before you become useless to your nation and your race. You don’t have to “love” every single White ethnic group (be it Serbs, English, or whoever) to be pro-White. You sick, self loathing, self sacrificing, idiots who want to turn our national team and even our nation into a multiCULTural (i.e. multi-racial) cess-pool are in effect spitting on the graves of all those Croats who died fighting tyranny. What kind of psycho shows loyalty to a piece of paper (“passport”) or even to a language (words), or to a culture, but not to the very people who made that culture? What kind of sycophant does something he knows is wrong just because everybody else is doing it???
@ziva hahahahaha toooooo
@Dukic…………..eh moj mali Dukicu…..ti dobro znas da mi Hrvati vamo mislimo da smo najbolji u svemu. Pa mi znamo hrvatskih povijest bolje od ljudi u Hrvatskoj. Na primjer, možete me posjetiti i ja ću voditi lekcije. Nadam da ti se svidja moj sarkazam, jos samo da ga ostali razumiju.
shout out to dukic! its exactly what i have been preaching for years. od jednom svi veliki hrvati a neznaju pisnit na hrvatskom.
@Dukic: You love Croatia so much man, move back, my cousin did it, I’m going to do it…you love Croatia so much, move back, I don’t give you any respect that you lived there a few months, or a year, I did that, I worked there, I went to school there, and here I am back in the Yankee states….you’re so hard core man, move back, live there, raise a family there, then you’ll get mine and everybody else’s respect, until then go eat some of that cake you canadians like so much
@TheGoldenChild……….loyalty went out the door years ago in professional sports. This is a big business and when heavy dollar amounts are invloved loyalty usually goes out the window. It’s a two-way street to be loyal. Clubs will be loyal as long as you produce and players will be loyal as long as you pay them the market rate.
Look at Croatia today…….the clubs (Hajduk and Dinamo) are having verbal battles with their players because they want them to take lower salaries. The clubs claim these players are only playing for money and not for the club – not showing loyalty in their eyes. That is why I usually side with the players in pay disputes. Nobody put a gun to these clubs to sign these players (with the exception of Mamic and what he did to Olic, but that is another story). So, honor the contracts.
Good to know Dukic and that’s why all the hardcore Croatians piss me off. You could hate someone that has learned to live the Croatian lifestyle and embrace it, yet of course the typical Croatian has to put them down. Why wouldn’t I be surprised if you said you only want a Croatian coach, not a foreigner. Its Croatians like you that make me sick. So congrats you love Croatia more than GoldenChild and I, pat yourself on the back for that. I guess it looks like I’m the bad guy here yet all I’m doing is making fun of your old Croatian mindset. I’ve yet to meet an old Croatian person that likes Eduardo and that has put over any country that they like other than Croatia. That is absolutely ridiculous and it makes me happy that I never talk to old people about soccer because I’d end up leaving the room within five minutes.
Ziva, read the damn comment. I said Ibanez, badelj and Sammir are not doing well enough to be considered for the national team. Er yeah Mamic has said Ibanez should be considered for Croatia and when he speaks things seemed to get pushed through so its a possibility he would apply. This is nothing new. Croatia have tried to get many players eligible – Dario Cvitanich. Mario Gavranovic, Gregory Sertic, Daniel Bilos and DMITRIU MITU was actually given permission to represent Croatia but was never called up. Its not surprising Sammir now and Ibanez in a years time will be eligible but they arent good enough. I dont want them there. The only battle left in that squad is this
PERISIC V ILICEVIC V JAJALO
JELAVIC V PETRIC V KALINIC V KLASNIC V BUDAN
the rest of it is already decided. Strinic is gone. He’s not coming back. Bartulovic and Pamic should be thought about over him.
Hertha are hardly tearing it up in the Bundesliga. If Hertha are to stabilize there status they need to offload people like Mijatovic. He’s a very good Bundesliga 2 player. Nothing more. He’s agin and the problem i have with him is he is leggy and has no pace. I can just see opponents being too quick for him. We dont have an easy group to experiment with guys like Mijatovic. By all means try him in a friendly, but as i said i think Bilic prefers Jurica Buljat.
I can say Budan, Klasnic and Petric is better than Jelavic and has proven things in a strong league and in a strong club, but Bilic is the decision maker so little point in talking about it. I also dont see what Jelavic has done which Kalinic hasnt done.
all you goddamn yankees pissing me off. picka vam materina. ne znate rec dobar dan i serete ovdje po citave dane.
@allen and goldenchild
guy was complaining how he doesnt get playing time then im ungrateful. ne seri. im not a fan of eduardo playing for croatia never was. i dont care if he wins the euro for us and scores 30 goals. bottomline is as much as you guys think he is a croat he isnt. i lived in croatia for the 98 world cup and that team won for everybody. for that summer everybody forgot about the war and bullet shells laying around their house. and it wouldnt be that same if we had a brazilian scoring goals for us instead of suker. so shut your yankee ass mouth up right now because you guys obviously dont know what it is to be a true croat. mark my words if we get another foreigner playing for croatia i dont root for them anymore. svaka mu cast that he recovered from his injury and im sure he is a nice guy but again he doesnt have a croatian heart and blood. maybe you guys dont understand that cause you have never lived in cro and i understand your guys’ yankee mentality but dont ever disrespect me like this because you will never ever love croatia as much as i do and you will never understand why i do.
natives and diaspora wanted an independent croatia for decades, and now we have had it for 20 years. so what do we do ?….. we bring in brazilian soccer imports and join the european union. our croatian culture has never, ever,developed on our terms. croatian terms. we have always been led. we are passive. lose with our own and celebrate and win with our own !
Loyalty in football is dead:
http://www.givemefootball.com/premier-league/loyalty-in-football-is-dead—and-why-should-we-ca
I know we have this talk a lot. *Looks at Ziva*. Figured this might be something to bring to the table.
No negros in the pool.
Dukic is the latest victim of making himself sound like a complete fool. You people think I’m out of my mind, well look no further than Dukic. How dare you rip Eduardo? That guy has gone through so much and has played damn well at times for Croatia. I don’t care if he stinks for the rest of his career to come back from an injury like that is remarkable. I’m proud of what he has done for Croatia and hopefully he steps up eventually. That comment was totally uncalled for and it shows how ungrateful some of you people are.
@My fan club
You do bring up a very interesting, and highly important point…formation. Yes, to about everything you just said there. His heart definitely shows, and I can definitely see him as somebody that inspires the rest of the team. His continuous flopping could go directly against that at times, but I’ll say he does more inspiring than annoying. I like Kranjcar on the left thou, because it’s easier for him to cut in a shoot. He’s played on both sides over the past few years, and it looks like he’s had a better show on the left. Coming out with an article here in the next few days that should explain that.
Prior vs current formation is also something that I wanted to get into. We talk about a lot of nonsense on here at times, and never really get into tactics as much as we should. That should be coming soon as well.
@Dukic
We’d be begging for goals if it wasn’t for him. The guy has a lot of heart. Since he plays differently then us probably alludes to the fact that he hasn’t really scored a lot of goals for us (heavy sarcasm). I think we should get Bilic to come down to the tournament in May and give you a shot if you can lead your team to another championship.
Did anyone see the Bayern-Freiburg game? Ivan Santini had a respectable showing.
Any predictions on his Bundesliga and NT future?
@ziva,
by using the word excellent, i meant it relative to the amount of time he s been learning it…
i am pretty proficient in the croatian language, myself. but, i guess it helps when one has lived there half their life and currently still does….
i still thinks he probably speaks better croatian than most of the younger guys i come across from the diaspora ( not that i think he s “more” croatian than them because of this, as you have argued in the past). just sayin…
don’t think sammir will be called up during this euro 2012 cycle….too late to bring him on for a debut, especially, when we have so many experienced players ahead of him. when he got a chance to showcase himself in europe this fall, i thought he was largely forgettable during the champions league group stage matches. however, once july comes with a new coach (after bilic leaves for the premier league) and some retirements from the national team, all bets are off.
this being said, i am not saying he should even be considered. to be honest, i don’t know if he should be called up…..i just know that i expect a wave of fresh faces after the euro is completed and sammir’s face looks to probably be amongst them.
screw eduardo too! he doesnt play like a croat. he doesnt have that heart then he complains about not playing enough for the national team! we gave you everything! youd be begging for change in rio if it wasnt for us.
@My hero: srna is that captain, he is that leader, a poor moral influence (dude likes to act a bit more than common), but he’s a passionate player that really does give his all, that’s the most important thing to have as a leader, set that example on the pitch, when he’s killing himself running up and down the pitch, you look at yourself and say what the hell am I doing….now how is he in the locker room, that’s something I could never get any color on, I never really heard how people are in the dressing room, knowing him and his personality though, he probably has some things to say, John Terry type
I think you like him as a midfielder because that is how we remember him playing for the NT, but he plays for a great coach at shaktar so I’m sure he learned well how to play that right back role, now where is he better midfield or defense, in the current formation 4-2-3-1, he’s better in defense, that whole right wing is left for him to run up and down, that right midfielder in this formation acts more in a forward role, staying tighter to the inside, kranjcar would be great there (doesn’t have to run too much) also ilicevic because of his creativity….but in a 4-4-2 like we did in the last Euro, yea, i agree, srna is better in right midfield with Corluka behind him
that was me above….forgot to sign in
@TO Cro…..if you think Sammir’s croatian is excellent (your words) than that is all i need to know about your speaking ability in croatian. I guess you look up to his ability.
Sammir is a croatian citizen according to the legal system in croatia. If the savez wants to play him, that is fine. It just lessons the importance of playing under that flag. As for his “croatianess”…It lacks.
I have no issue with him being a cro citizen, but I dont want him on the repka for obvious reasons.
@my fan club
Lol. I would love Srna as more of a midfielder than a defender. With his consistent blunders on a national level, I just don’t think he’s cuttin the cheese back there. With all these new up and comers, I know you want some leadership in the back but when is it there time to fill that role.
I’ve always stood with this position on Srna, and I’ll always stay with it. Srna is always a mid before a back. If you could play him at the position that he better excels at, then you’re going to get a better result out of him. A pack a day isn’t helping him with tracking back on defense either…just sayin.
grow up ppl how did we let da silva in and everybody loves him we all know we could use the help tbh
@ Ivica: Eduardo also played for the U21 NT and went through Dinamo’s youth system for that matter, wasn’t bought to play first team right away
the other big reason people probably don’t care that eduardo plays but not sammir is because sammir is not the, how do I put this lightly, classiest player out there (which you mentioned)….eduardo has a very clean record, a very likable, wholesome guy, whereas Sammir for better or worse aaaaa idiot….yea idiot….always driving drunk, registering God awful blood alcohol levels, and he’s inked up like a Mexican gang member
and I guess although Eduardo only came at a slightly younger age, everyone feels like he’s one of our own, went through the system, made himself one of us, Sammir is just trying to get sold, I don’t think he has a lot of love for Croatia, that’s the personal perspective I get from him….fairly unsubstantiated, but the feeling no less
@TO Cro: I don’t think his Croatian is excellent man, not for someone that has lived there 5 years, you ever see his interviews….same goes for Ibanez, I knew one girl in Croatia (freaking dime by the way) that broke up with him because his croatian was so weak, she got tired of correcting him all the time
@Everyone on this site: Don’t highlight the fact these dudes have Croatian girlfriends or wives, what do you think is going to happen when you live in a country with that hot of women and you’re at that age, you’re going to import girls from South America? no, of course they’re going to have croatian girlfriends, now I respect Dudu that he married one, but there’s no brownie points because Sammir and Ibanez are dating Croatian girls
@The Golden One: Woh woh woh, srna one of the worst defenders out there? the guy has played that right back role exclusively for Shaktar and proved himself to be a great player, UEFA team of the year voting and all, he’s the best person for that position and that is where he is going to play come Euros, WCs and the rest of his career as long as croatia uses this current “hot” formation, he gets up field terrifically, and yes, very effective in defense, if Croatia keeps this formation, dude is our #1 choice in that spot……make me want to change my posting name……..on an aside, I think mijatovic is a good player and can definitely bring some leadership qualities to our defense because I know Corluka ain’t bringing it (I’ve seen the dude party in person, and he doesn’t hold any punches if you know what I’m saying, two seconds in the club and he’s already smoking and has four bottles of chivas at his table), but frankly man, mijatovic’s time has passed, we have too many up and comers to bring the old man to the table
@Mr. Black: Sammir’s career has been a rollercoaster, dude should really have left a few years ago, but hasn’t kept consistent form…I remember reading an interview with Modric when he first left for North London, they asked him who do you think is coming next from Dinamo into Europe, he said Sammir, that was four years ago….I guess Sammir messed up somewhere
@ Dalmatinac: I think that’s the biggest thing, he doesn’t care about Croatia, just getting sold
@Alleninnovation: shildenfeld is a good player, he has been since he’s been at dinamo, sturm graz and now in 2nd league germany, turkey isn’t a bad national team, are they in poor form now, yes, but they are a good team relative to other European national teams, and their strikers aren’t that weak, are they the greatest, no, but are they good, yes….Shildenfeld played great in that game against them and has had other good showings for the NT and his club, frankly, he’s a good replacement for an injured first string defender, put him on par with Vida who is the future of our defense and has been that way since he played for Osijek
@ Olly
i agrre 100% with you in regards to Mijatovic. he simply is not at the level and is painfully slow.
@ Ziva
with your past comments on older forums, measuring peoples croatian-ess (for lack of a better word). Sammir speaks excellent croatian, has lived there longer than 99% of the people born in the diaspora, holds a croatian passport. Hell, by your past logic, he s more croatian than 99% of the people that visit this site…
Ante continues to shout out things that aren’t bright ideas. This is an on going occurrence and its getting annoying. Like i said, Schildenfield isn’t a starter just because he stopped a bunch of no name Turkish strikers.
JEBO VAS SAMMIR I MAMIC!!! MARKOVIC I HNS PEDERI UNISTILI STE NAM NOGOMET! He is not croatian nor does he care for croatia no big NOOO this is mamic propaganda ok even if he were lets say bulagatian or italian Id say noo or even if he were PELE nooooo 3rd tear players. Id take Pravoslav Hrvat any day over sammir any day!
@olly…….you can go ahead and keep thinking Ibanez will be considered. No chance. Nobody has brought up his name in the past associated with the savez.
@Olly
One player doesn’t bring a whole team down to the gutter. I understand your point, but I don’t very much agree with it. If he wasn’t anything special, he wouldn’t be a captain of a 1st division squad in the Bundesliga.
If Sammir can bring something to the table, Bilic should take him. The guy has a Croatian passport, he can play for us. There was a time when I thought he could really do something for our squad but now I hesitate. When you’re 24 and you’re still playing in a weak league(we have to be honest), I don’t think you can do something at Euro 2012. At this time, I really do think Modric, Rakitic, Srna, Krancjar and even Ilicevic and Perisic are better players than Sammir. If Sammir wants to play in the Croatian midfield, he’ll need to go to a club in a great league.
Goldenchild – when i say Mijatovic was ordinary when he played for us i mean when he played for Dinamo Zagreb. He was quite poor along with a whole load of bad Croatian signings like Vedran Jese, Zoran Zekic, Veldin Karic, Poldrugac and Mario Lucic and we sold him to the German Second Division and why guys like Sammir were brought in and why the guys that were loaned to Zapresic Corluka, Dudu and Modric were tried. The rest is history. Mijatovic was part of that team which finished in the lowest position Dinamo ever finished in and was rightly offloaded. Since then he’s done okayish in Bundesliga 2 and he’s been in and out the team with Hertha this year. He’s nothing special.
@Ivica
Exactly.
@Olly
Mijatovic never played for the NT. He played once on the B squad and a few times for the U 21s.
@Ante
I see your point, but
Strinic is getting the axe for a friendly. Not usually a good thing, even though he’s a great attacking defender. Mind you, I said attacking…which doesn’t usually go well with defender.
Schildenfeld has had a few decent games with us. Division B for a reason.
“Srna can be used on defense” -Come on man. We all know Srna is one of THE worst defenders out there.
I wouldn’t mind giving him a chance if he’s going to help us for Euro.
Re; Ziva Wolly
Because Ibanez will be the next one who is associated with the national team. Watch the future! People already brought it up in the past from Dinamo.
If he has a big season people will mention his name. If we move him forward he prob will begin to shine, but if not Sammir being mentioned that why would you think Ibanez will not get mentioned. Neither of them will get a call though so whats point in talking about it. Sammir is not lighting up the league. FIFA have just said he can play for Croatia thats all. Isnt Ibanez getting close to Croatian nationality soon and doesnt he have a Croatian girlfriend. Most likely he will get mentioned but obviously he dont deserve or warrant a call.
Thats what i’m talking about jerk.
I don’t see that much of a difference between the Eduardo or Sammir scenarios.
Both are born-and-bred Brazilians. The only argument people have for Eduardo over Sammir is that Eduardo came to Croatia a little earlier than Sammir (age 16 instead of age 19), and that Eduardo ended up marrying a Croatian girl.
Back in ’06, people were initially just as opposed to Eduardo being called up but Eduardo squashed any discussion by making an amazing impact in his first callup against World Cup winning Italy, keeping an amazing goal streak going (becoming our leading scorer in qualifying) especially the one that took out England in Zagreb. Couple this instant success on the national team with the fact that he has a likable personality, and everybody loves and accepts him.
Sammir’s personality is the polar opposite of Eduardo’s. He lacks humility, and has a typical “crnac” attitude that a lot of people get turned off on easily. Couple this with the fact that he’s not even that great for Dinamo, and you’ll easily have everyone furious at the idea of him being called up to the reprezentacija.
Personally, I don’t agree with either Eduardo or Sammir on the team since teams who win with foreigners never end up getting respect for their victories. Eduardo has already been “grandfathered” in, so I’ll accept that, but I do not want any more on our national team.
But who knows. Maybe I’ll sing a different tune (like everyone else) if the next Pele comes by and wants to play for Cro. 😉
No Croatian blood = no national team. With everything becoming more globalized, as long as the player has cro citizenship and is good enough/ better than the other options they will get called up, I wish this wasn’t the case, but it will be the case
I still have no idea why people are still high on Schildenfield. He played well against a Turkey team with not so talented strikers. He still plays in Division Two and I don’t take him seriously. I’d be damn worried if he’s starting against Spain or Italy.
@Mali Hrvat……..living in Croatia has nothing to do with playing for the repka……The Kovac brothers, Klasnic, Rakitic, Simunic never lived in Croatia (until they played for an HNL team). None of these guys were living in Croatia when called up to the repka.
@Olly…….not sure why you keep mentioning Ibanez about the repka…..really makes me wonder if you know what you are talking about.
@ Colin:
I agree about him being slightly ahead of Russ in the pecking order. However, that is assuming Russ doesn’t speak Croatian or live in Croatia during the off season.
Either way I have never been that impressed with Sammir. He is no Eduardo.
I tend to agree with the websites stance on this. I am an Eduardo fan but I do believe that Sammir is a different scenario.
And no I don’t believe he is even good enough for the team right now.
I wouldn’t even like the “optics” of it. Even if the team was doing well…I can see the comments now…”yea the Croatian team is good because of their Brazilian players”.
We have plenty of our own guys …we aren’t THAT strapped for talent.
LOL hilarious ”sammir nije damir”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtNz8caOz6U
I think Mijatovic will get outclassed in Euro’s. When he was with us he was fairly ordinary. Schildenfeld has surprised me and held it together so should go. Lovren will go to the Euro’s. Vida should go. Simunic will go. Some of these players are concerning but prob will get the call. Dont be surprised if the last centre back being looked at is Jurica Buljat. I dont rate this player, but Bilic does. It doesnt surprise me Marko Russ name is coming up cos the defence could be where the whole operation falls apart.
Maloca needs to go abroad soon as he needs to try in a higher level. He’s getting bogged down in HNL1. Been there too long now. If he’s going to improve he needs coaching abroad.
As a Dinamo fan I actually have been disappointed in the slow progress of Badelj, Sammir and Ibanez and neither of them deserve a place on the national team even if they qualify to represent. Obviously Badelj does but none of those guys have had a monster season in HNL1 yet. Come the end of the season watch neither of those guys will done much special. Our most sellable assets will be Vrsaljko who i think should go to the Euro as can play right and left. Hopefully he goes to Germany, Russia or Ukraine. Our other sellable asset who will be on 15 plus goals end of season will be Fatos Beciraj and we definitely need to cash in on him. Vida definitely should go to Euro. I actually think Vida could start at right back.
Badelj, Sammir, Ibanez still have loads to do to convince a European team to sign them no mind play for Croatia. I think Jajalo has had a decent season and deserves a look. Gabric proved himself in a Croatia shirt and deserves more of a look. Ahead of that Modric, Kranjcar, Rakitic, Srna, Pranjic, Perisic and Ilicevic are totally set deservedly ahead of Sammir.
The farce of this arguement really is that Kovacic even has a outside chance of making it ahead of Sammir. I dont expect to see him even in a friendly unless playing outstandingly because Jajalo and Ilicevic look better in a much stronger league.
@ Golden
Schildenfeld, Simunic, Corluka will all start if healthy. Srna can be used in defense, Strinic will be healthy/should be in form by June and even Pranjic is an option. Now, do you want to five the spot to a 32 year-old Mijatovic or up-and-coming Vida.
That’s where I was going with that.
The wanna-be brazilian-born hrvat is not good enough to play for the repka, but he will receive a call up I would be shocked if he does not.
Personally, i don’t want him and he is not good enough, but I do think he will be called. I”ll explain why in another post tomorrow.
One “game”.
Invest in him? One tournament isn’t too big of an investment. Lovren hasn’t done well, Strinic got dropped, and we’re still playing Srna in the back.
Joe’s been showing up most of our defenders, aside from Corluka. I don’t have any problem with that.
he plays i swear it will kill me but i won’t watch a single national game any more
Bottom line is he isn’t better then any of the guys we have playing in that position for the repka.So whats the point of calling him up just to warm the bench and fill water bottles?
For me, I am not even big on Eduardo but its already happened so Im happy to let it slide, but one and no more.
If we make a thing of constantly doing this you are undermining the talent pool that Croatia naturally creates, some kid will come up and be decent but won’t have the chance to be better because of some person from Brazil (the world biggest exporters of footballers)
Its the same as United States basketball players going to Euorpe, Asia and Australia and playing a couple years then then representing the country.
This is national representation, it is not a club and it is not for sale. If we want to be like that why dont we just call ourselves France or Germany then we can be the another United Nations country in team of the world.
Croats and only Croats, not matter where they are born end of.
@ Bojan
Eduardo is our adopted son.
@ Goldenchild
Mijatovic has been on ‘our’ radar for some time now. He joined Hertha when they were relegated last season but is now their captain in the bundesliga. The guy is a defender but he’s already 32. Do you want to invest him at that age?
I know it’s been a question posed before, but I’ve never seen a real answer.
This guy is from Hrvatska, and he’s not even ever really been mentioned by the press or NT. Why?
http://soccerserieswallpapers.blogspot.com/2011/10/andre-mijatovic-hertha-berlin-sc.html
Isn’t Eduardo from Brazil? I don’t see anyone complaining that he is playing for Croatia.
We have 10 real homies who are better than him.
calm down, he’s not making the squad, for Euro 2012 at least
We have established that he is not Croatian in I don’t know how many posts on this site. But in lieu of the resent Russ news, it deserves another mention. The way I see it, if Russ is considered for the team, Sammir should be too. Though neither of them should, if Russ actually gets a call up, it would be insane for Sammir not to get one. Sammir at least knows the culture, language, history, land, and people of the nation. I guess what I’m trying to say, if it were a contest of between who deserves a call up for the repka LESS, it’s Russ.
Black, white or yellow….It doesnt matter.
If he’s ready to play for Croatia and put his hand on his heart during the nation athemn then let him.
If his only reason is to get “showcased” then go play for someone else.
One question …He’s spent the last 5 yrs playing footy in Croatian.
When he gets sold to another european club….will he ignore a Croatian call up?
I dont want him.
ma daj. dosta mi je ovi crnaca. ovaj kreten ne zasluzije majicu dinama a kamo hrvatske. i to znaci puno od mene jer mrzim dinamo.
Anyone that has a Croatia citizenship should be allowed. Sorry folks welcome to the new world. Everybody is starting to live everywhere it’s called immigration. The question should be is he good enough to play for Croatia. I say no he’s not good enough. That is the only thing that matters.
Completely agree Nate! Here in Canada I’d be like whatever, but for a country as established as Croatia is in the football world, forget it!
I agree with CroatianSports’ stance. Even if he was equal or better in quality than our current strikers I still wouldn’t be on board. Accepting foreign players for a national team should be reserved for those that never qualify for anything or are an immigration heavy country, ie USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand. Not a team consistently ranked in the top ten on Earth.