PHOTO: Reuters, Ivica Olić
Bayern Munich are through to the Final 16 of the UEFA Champions League after thrashing an outclassed Juventus side from a sold out Stadio Olimpico in Turin. Ivica Olić scored what was the game-winning goal for Bayern in the 52′ in typical Ivica Olić fashion: Right place at the right time.
Olić Goal
Despite Juventus taking the lead from a David Trezuget strike in the 19′, Bayern, who needed nothing less than a win to advance to the knockout stage, fought back with 4 unanswered goals in an offensive onslaught that lasted the duration of the contest. The visitors came close to scoring early when Olić rose to head a cross from Mark van Bommel, only to hit the far post. Bayern goalkeeper Jorg Butt scored the equalizer on a penalty shot taken after Olić had been brought down in the 30′.
PHOTO: fcbayern.t-home.de
After a first half totally dominated by the Bavarian side, the game deciding strike arrived when the exposed Juve goalkeeper Buffon was required to deflect Daniel Van Buyten’s downward header from another cross from Van Bommel. A ‘ready and waiting’ Ivica Olić put away the rebound into the open net as we have seen him do so many times in his career. After an outstanding effort, Olić came out of the game in the 79′ for Anatolly Tymoshchuk. Goal.com gave Olić a player rating of 8.5, stating “Showed a striker’s instinct when he tapped in Bayern’s second goal from close range. He was a menace to Juve’s central defenders throughout the game and also hit the frame of the goal in the first half.”
PHOTO: AP
Goals from Mario Gomez and Anatolly Tymoshchuk in the 83′ and 90′, respectively, capped off a terrific performance from the German side. Not to be forgotten, Danijel Pranjić also had a great game for his side, patrolling the flanks of the field with great defense, but also lobbing multiple crosses to Bayern’s strikers during the onslaught. Goal.com rated Pranjić a solid 6.5, stating “he played a supporting role but his contribution in linking with the strikers was crucial.” Pranjić received a yellow card in the 7′ and was subbed in the 73′ after an excellent showing on both sides of the ball.
The victory today in Turin is without a doubt the high-point of the season thus far for Bayern Munich. For anyone who has played a sport, to go into a hostile away environment and come out victorious in a situation where anything but victory is failure can be a major turning point in a season. The win today against one of Europe’s most storied clubs will significantly boost the confidence of the Bayern Munich squad as they head home to continue the Bundesliga grind this weekend against VfL Bochum.
PHOTO: Andrew Couldridge/Action Images, Luka Modrić to see action this weekend?
Luka Modrić returned to action today (God, that feels good to say) after almost four months out with a broken right leg. Luka played 70 minutes of a training-ground friendly against non-league Grays Athletic. Will Spurs boss Harry Redknapp put Modrić on the bench for Saturday’s visit of Wolves?
~Ivica Peroš, reporting from the Long Island, New York
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"regards me being a partner or contributer that's amusing. i was asked and i flatly rejected it and ante's been on a mardy ever since to be honest and goes why don't i wanna write for his website when i was sending him reports like every week and occasionally every midweek. My workrate was much better than ivica's (even though i quite like the guy) and told me as much so whether i'm officially this or that don't really matter really does it cos its what you produce that counts not where you have your name in bold letters. "
Do you really want to go here dinamofan? I'm prepared if you are but don't say I didn't warn you.
covik je bolestan i samo trazi paznje. Mali je govno.
Nek trosi pola sata na ovo i prevodi.
Za mene ovo je zabava.
Isuse Boze, pa koliko ovaj jebe to nije normalno…srpsko hrvatski rjecnik?? Mislim stvarno
Rightly said Denis. I hope you kno to all those Croatian writers of you out there each time you write Croatian i have to get out my HIPPOCRENE PRACTICAL DICTIONARY SERBO-CROATIAN BY NICHOLAS AWDE PRICE 16.95DOLLARS IN ALL GOOD BOOKS SHOPS AND PUBLISHED BY THOSE GOOD PEOPLE HIPPOCRENE BOOKS.
Good grief i really need to get some better advertising sponsorship for my new blog..
Don't criticise Slaven for saying internet troll though cos that describes a lot of us here perfectly.. We really need to get out more.. I'm glad i provoked Slaven cos i was trying to find out who used the term internet troll before in a dispute and now i know. Kudos to you Slaven.. Kudos
damn, I wanted the 100th comment.
I get home from work to find 20 new comments. Dinamofan is surrounded and throwing blows left and right. Still standing.
"I'm waiting for Hrvasplician to come in and go Tosser yet! "
haha
@HvarSplican
"UK=GB"
close… you almost got it.. UK is a country, GB isnt.
@everyone
I agree that to be Croatian it is a must to first master the language. However, this is a Croatian soccer website and not a Croatian language or culture website.
Croatian soccer has followers around the world and the universal language(today) is English. Ante and I dont mind a few Croatian words here and there, however, dont want to see paragraphs in Croatian unless you dont speak Croatian(which is fine).
"As i'm sure you'll agree that's a pretty whimpy thing to do." ~dinamofan
I agree and disagree with you at the same time. I am sure that for Ziva and Ante BBB this is all fun and games. I agree with you that you are a Croatian football fan and not Croatia fan…. no need to be, you are not Croatian.. perfectly normal.. we still welcome you.
@Slaven
'You're a troll, wannabe Croat.'
I dont think so… hes a Croatian football fan…. not a wannabe
@dinamofan:)
'Later Denis will give us a breakdown of what everyone said so we go that to look forward to yet.'
dont give it away, I secretly come in at the end…
great line.
like I said, "I am glad we are all friends here."
Later Denis will give us a breakdown of what everyone said so we go that to look forward to yet. But you know once that 100 posts mark is in your sights you have to go for it really. I doubt i can make 150 though.
well ante said he hoped it would never end so we might as well keep it going for him…
I'm waiting for Hrvasplician to come in and go Tosser yet! Its like Primal Scream therapy i'm drawing out all the inner demons from within.. and in a week or so you'll all feel much better..
Ha, i go away for a half hour, BOOM 14 new comments. more gas on the fire.. this post is gonna shatter records.
Our queen is German.. If Hitler won the war the monarchy would have stayed no problem.. didn't you know that. its a well known fact..
Haha i got 100 posts out of you lot!
still going hey Ziva – keep it coming mate!
ohh, dinamofan……you make me laugh.
go re-read some of your posts over the last few days and ask yourself who rattled who…..
to everyone else on this website, remeber this is the clown whose solution to all dinamo and cro national team's problems were to bring in/buy/loan half the rosters….
fuck it, the little boy/man is a good laugh. Lets ease up on him, after all he bows down to the queen.
Please don't have sympathy for me – why would you have any sympathy for anyone. its only a website mate. stop freaking yourself out. Go blast a few shots at a garage door or something.. As i say you defo don't pull out your A, B or C game for CSR..
i'm actually enjoying this about how Croats see English people. Tell me more.. its actually extremely amusing. i saw a greek advert the other day advertising the premiership of a stereotype english fox hunter and its was just hilarious amusing comedy. I swear i won't tire of it..
regards me being a partner or contributer that's amusing. i was asked and i flatly rejected it and ante's been on a mardy ever since to be honest and goes why don't i wanna write for his website when i was sending him reports like every week and occasionally every midweek. My workrate was much better than ivica's (even though i quite like the guy) and told me as much so whether i'm officially this or that don't really matter really does it cos its what you produce that counts not where you have your name in bold letters.
You're a troll, wannabe Croat. Your grasp of the English language shows in your spelling. Just shows how stupid you are, you fish 'n chip eating bastard. Go to a english soccer report website and see how cool you become there. You've embarrased yourself beyond all repair here. It's good that you weren't officilly made a partner/contributer here too. I had some sympathy for you before. Not anymore.
you're baring writing about any croatian football at all over the last few weeks.. have you noticed that.. you forgot the reason your here.. its not called dinamofansoccerreport.com you know..
Ziva i think i got you rattled now.. you're losing it. i can take all the time i want from and play with you as i please. why you so preoccupied by me… you know i love you so!
Wa Wa!
well, call me a crnac and stupified……that i did not know our resident brit/englez/welsh/scotsman did not know the croatian language. How arrogant of me to think someone on a croatian website would be able to read and write in the mother tounge.
column interuption #1…..if you are a brit, english, or whatever you are, do you have bad teeth? Because most of the people from england/GB/Scotland/ that I know have bad dental work……
Don't get me wrong, I and some others, will still write in croatian to make fun of you. "ovaj mali šupčino zaslužuje batina." The reason you ask???? because, you are a baby in many of your posts.
See look common language — i can see what you say now and can tell you exactly the same thing you say to me word for word… letter for letter! Common language.. its definitely the way to go!
To Slaven
Go fuck yourself,loser
RE: Slaven
ahhh what you so sad about.. do i even know you?
Go fuck yourself, loser.
yeah right if you say so – i already know you know i'm not Croatian from past posts.. My view on learning Croatian is that there's not a massive desire to learn it. As a country its just one of many countries. I already know Croat's don't seem proud of its own institutions so i'm not exactly sure where Croatian pride comes from. I'm interested in the football, but you won't find me supporting Ivo Karlovic, Mario Ancic etc in tennis and would be more than happy to see Croatia get demolished in many other sports. I've learned quite a bit about Croatia considering i'm a non Croat, but definitely not gonna try to be a fake Croat. But yeah that's pretty embarrassing stuff to talk about someone in a language they don't understand. Glad your feeling stupid now.. Nobody on this site should do that – its like the lowest thing you can do and that's why you was called out for being a whimp..
All cool and god am i thankful that people stopped bothering me about quitting. I finally volleyed that one home. I look forward to being a reader from now. I actually stepped in as i wanted to see young HNL1 prospects being mentioned more and please continue this whoever takes over. I discussed this with Vatreni and we both agreed that is the best thing about HNL1 reporting.
news to me….I had no clue about your ability to read/write croatian.
Er can speak it but can't write it from the looks of my best just then lol.. oh well its only CSR.. only kidding!
RE: Ante BBB
you must have forgotton our past chat cos that dude was me and as you know i am not Croatian and nearly everyone on this site knows my Croatian is poor at best, but that doesn't matter as its not my country and i have no Croatian blood and Ziva knows this so basically what he did was say something in another language which he knows i don't understand. As i'm sure you'll agree that's a pretty whimpy thing to do. I could easily say something in urdu which you won't understand if you like. I actually think you both got a good point about the Croats who need to learn there own language but it definitely does not apply to me so you kinda misfired there. England is my country and i have English blood and i can speak English thanks. Anyone hopefully they'll be mutually joy soon as Dinamo qualify for the next stage of the Europa Liga.
Please tell me you laughed as hard as I did when that dude tried to call you out for speaking Croatian because you were "scared to write in english"?
@Ante BBB…… your comments….
That's for the advanced audience who actually speaks Croatian here unlike those communist Croatians who don't know their own language yet claim to be the most hardcore……
10000000% agree. Too many self-proclaimed hrvati running around who can't speak or write the language.
@Svircic
You're making my point for me: UK=GB It doesn't take a degree in geography to figure it out 🙂
I am glad we are all friends here.
It is the latter option – "jebi se". Allow me to use it in a sentence.
"Petar Radman, jebi se."
OR
"John D, jebi se i nosi se u tri picke materine."
That's for the advanced audience who actually speaks Croatian here unlike those communist Croatians who don't know their own language yet claim to be the most hardcore.
AnteBBB
'If HvarSplican gets the Dinamo report, I'm officially leaving.'
Thats what Im talking about.. FEEDBACK… hahaha
'To the rest: I know some of you love me, some of you hate me, and some of you don't care…but at least you all read me.'
I agree…
dinamofan:)
No need to explain further. You dont want to continue, the end.
Hopefully, you can stay with us and join us in future discussions..
HvarSplican
"I'm pretty sure England or any other country in the UK doesn't compete in the Olympics by themselves??"
Last I checked 'UK' is a country.. Geography lesson for today.
also a language lesson today…
"jebise" or "jebi se"
😮
So the German press are calling Olic "Golic". Brilliant. 🙂
…is to words: jebi se. Throw in a 'nosi se u picku materinu' and now you have yourself a proper sentence. 'Jebem ti majku' is also a fan favorite.
Jebise
Do i consider it journalism.. no not really as its second hand info.. and largely copying someone elses work – but as i pointed out i was intending to pack it all in anyway regardless of all else..
I am still trying to figure out what I ever did to dinamofan. I was critical of some of the things he wrote, big deal.
this is an open question to you? Do you consider what you have written on this site to be "journalism"; do you consider your work journalism?
As someone who has worked in journalism and works with journalists and the media, I am looking forward to your answer.
Look all you just said is fine.. if i was annoyed that was at least a few days ago.. if you want to hear different viewpoints etc and different people then why you being so one dimensional and keeping on bothering me. Try something different and follow a new path. Look even Ziva Istina has become disinterested, Ante BBB could barely give credance to the topic its so boring. The only one who is interested is you by the sounds of it.
I respect everything you just said about how you want your team and want CSR to be. i don't see one provocative comment there. Its cool. Its no longer me who is continuing this. I'm bored of it, everyone is bored of it and you should be bored of it.
I've given you sound reasoning for my departure. What do you want a video diary of my life to check if all my other tasks that have made me too busy exist. This was also a short term trial basis thing if you remember. I said i didn't want to be on CSR's team way before Ziva did anything of any description. It was Short term – and you've had your few months and now i'm done. Nothing more to be said.
Someone else back me up here and kill this topic once and for all. Look the timing of my departure is that its winter break. Its not cos of anything anyone said. Its winter break and its a perfect time to leave.
@ dinamofan,
This is just way too much fun! I hope this 'comment post' never ends, especially with Ante BBB and Ziva Istina back on board. All we need now is Ciganski Bosanac to chime in for a full house.
I'll reply to you privately when I get a chance, so don't get your knickers all twisted up in the mean time.
It's hard for me to talk to you because you take all this all too seriously. You're trying to suck all the fun out of it. I want CSR to be as fun and educational as possible. Look at all the different viewpoints we get on a daily basis. I'm not here to be politically correct, I'm here to spread the good word of Croatian soccer and share the experience with others who enjoy the same.
We used your reports because they were damn good. They were perfect for people just getting into the HNL as well as veterans. But you acted like a teenage schoolgirl in the past week. You have all these readers (guys that adore you and will do anything for you) that enjoy your work but keep going out with the bad boy (ziva istina) even though he neglects you and treats you like shit.
You've lost a lot of respect this week. We tell you how well you do and want to leave. What's your motive? Do you want us to beg for you to come back? Because that won't happen. I only work with people on my crew that want to be here and act like men.
Do you want ziva istina to apologize? Also won't happen. The bird is the word and I enjoy listening to people who act on principle and always stand by their word- even if I don't agree with them 100%.
You should seriously take a good solid winter break off from CSR and reconsider. You have a good thing going here and are always welcome. But please don't say that the post is done and that you won't reply, because we all know as you do that you (we) are all part of something bigger here. CSR and Prva Generacija are here to stay. Like it or not. So at least give us something better than that when you next post.
"You were the chosen one! It was said that you would destroy the Sith, not join them. You were to bring balance to the force, not leave it in darkness.
You were my brother, dinamofan:). I loved you."
Once again, you ARE allowed to laugh…
Everywhere but here bro.
FINALLY! Where have you been Ante BBB!?
I'm not responding to your comment Ziva Istina as i know everyone is bored of these quarrels. Lets just leave it at that..
Ah right i see now – you are quite thick aren't you.. no wander people wanna stay clear of you..
I think dinamofan wants a big thank you for what he wrote over the past 3 months. Dude, if you can stand criticism then you need to put on a skirt.
as for your comments calling me a pedophile….why????? First, I did not know if I should laugh or shake my head. I think you made an attempt at a joke, but missed – and you missed by a wide margain. So, by questioning some of the things you wrote, that qualifies me to be a boy-lover…. jebiga, thats fine.
this was a typical dinamofan post……dinamo should loan player A to team X, then go buy player B from team Z, and at the same time look at player C over at team Y. then we should get plyers D and E away from Team W, burt not before we also loan out players E, F, and G.
Regards Hrvasplican.. give the guy a chance. At least let him write the next Dinamo report. I know full well you lot know each other and are more connected than me. Yes he well and truly bombed out with the Kranjcar report.
However he can't bungle everything.. With HNL1 Ante and Denis i had no problem with how you were doing it before i came along. I sometimes missed the way you were doing it. Occasionally me and Ante BBB would accuse you of bias, but so what you still made it good fun. Yes my reports were informative, but they were also mundane at times.. If it went back to how it was i think it might bring more comment and be more fun. You might say HNL1 is boring, but i know you both support Hajduk more than any other side really. Otherwise why did you occasionally put it on your Facebook status comments. I think you'll be fine doing it your way again.
HAHAHA Even if what your saying is true Dinamofan, I wouldnt be interested in the Purger Report.
Oh and BTW, referring back to a previous post you made, Great Britain does exist you tool… I'm pretty sure England or any other country in the UK doesn't compete in the Olympics by themselves?? Im pretty sure they're under the umbrella of Great Britain.. Tossa!
Look houses don't build themselves. i've got a whole floor to build. I'm not writing for same reason as you, i got other things to do. My parents live on a building site at moment – i've got work to do.. I shouldn't have to give my precise reasoning. I'm busy.. plain and simple.
If HvarSplican gets the Dinamo report, I'm officially leaving.
Dinamofan, your balls called, they want you back. Stop crying.
To the rest: I know some of you love me, some of you hate me, and some of you don't care…but at least you all read me.
(sorry I haven't been posting as much)
Re: Ante/Denis/Ivica
Have you tried looking in the direction of Michael. This guy seems to have just as good knowledge as me if not better. Also people wanna hear about Croatia Under 21's and Radman puts me to shame on this. This guy knows the players from under 17 level before they even reached.. The first i saw Vida properly was only very recently and Radman was singing this guys praises long time before as well as Ademi.
All you need to do is do what you did with me. Get their contact email and then engage with them about what free time they have and then i'm sure they'll write for you. I also know you have a lot of friends around this site as well as the forementioned Hrvasplician. Maybe they can aid in the workload and then perhaps nobody will end up having a blowout.
The answers are all right in front of you.
Re@ Hravsplian
Its amusing that your commenting cos i told Ante to give you the Dinamo reports to give me more free time and he just wouldn't.. Maybe rather than mouthing off you should think to yourself this is a great time to put yourself forward and prove people wrong. What do you think?
As i say i'm not interested in the opinions of people who are not prepared to put themselves on the line. Stop talking to me and do the job yourself. Whats your problem..
I said i wanted no more comments after mine.. i'm just responding to Denis's comment to me. This has nothing to do with you so butt out.
Dinamofan you really need to stop your bitching. No matter what type of article you write, whether it's on a website like this or a collumn for the Los Angeles Times, YOU WILL NEVER HAVE 100% OF THE READERS AGREE WITH WHAT YOU WRITE. PERIOD. So if you can't handle the criticism, get out. Stop making excuses. I'm tired of the bitching and you acting like a primadonna.
Basically i was a reader only just like everyone else a couple of months back. I didn't know Ante or Denis at all. We never even met right.. They asked me to help on a short term basis.. i didn't even know how long it would go on for right.. it could have ended at any time. we never agreed i'd do it forever or for any time period. i did it for quite a long spell and now want to return to being a reader.
Basically there is a lot of bravado on this site – a lot of people mouthing off behind there computer screens. there is only ante, denis, ivica and me who put ourselves out and on the line on a weekly basis. I don't think anyone apart from them three has a right to say anything. You should really step forward and do it instead. Its not hard or anything. I think it even qualifies as something for your CV. There is a opportunity there. From Denis, Ante and Ivica there is also a chance to reevaluate how the reports are done. If its not enjoyed by everyone then maybe there is a better way to do it. I don't doubt this will bring a usual snide remark from some blowhard.. i can't do anything more for you am afraid.. Every one on this site is bored of the hot air blowing around. Its boring.. Theres no more to be said.
So you're basically saying you're too lazy to do it?
RE: Denis
Thanks for all the compliments, but this isn't all about the criticism or whatever. I was thinking of giving it up anyway and decided to continue till winter break. I needed a reason to continue and i don't have one.. all your reasoning for me is not motivation enough to continue. I had more disuading factors than persuasive ones. Its best if we draw a line under this as everyone's bored of it including me. You three need to keep firing off some reports as soon as possible and dinamofan:) will be forgotton about extremely quickly. Nobody looks to see who writes the reports. You three should get you head down and continue working. I have other priorities at the moment.
All i can say is that for the 3 months i did it, it was worthwhile and i would recommend it to anyone on this site who would like to test themselves. I would stand by that it seemed to me only to have short term benefits before becoming repetitive, but everyone is different so who knows.
Basically goodbye and good luck. No malice intended. I wish you all the best. Thanks for the opportunity. I want to move on and that's really the last i want to say on this.
@Andrej
"regardless olic is a deff call to the national team "
sadly, I agree. I will forgive all those posts Olic has hit with the national team.
@ziva istina
"All you can ask of any player in any sport is to give maximum effort"
This is Olic every time he steps onto the pitch.
"They were fine, just worthless and not needed in my eyes since we can get all the info in real time from the numerous websites in Cro. "
Dinamofan reports are for those Croatia fans that have trouble with Croatian or dont speak it at all.
Also, show me a website that has a 1-3 paragraph summary, videos and pictures of the HNL under one post.
"As for them "catering" to me because they used my question at Stimac……Well, it was a good question and question worthy of being asked."
I agree. Hopefully, this doesnt mean I am catering to you.
@Slaven
"If only Bilic let Pletikosa take some PKs against the Turks"
I never thought about that.. Now that I think about it, Pleti would have been a good call.
@Zach Gilfix
thanks for the link
@Alex
"I'm now a Jorg Butt fan." I just jumped on the Jorg Butt bandwaggon.
@Ivica Peroš
"I was thrilled when Ante and Denis asked me to become a writer….Around Europe is definitely no small task…"
"With regards to this being a "short term thing," I respectfully say: speak for yourself. I plan on being involved with CSR as long as CSR exists."
Couldn't have said it better myself! We are on the same page.
@Ivo Miljanovic
'Everyone's contributions are extremely useful. What makes this site so interesting is the different points of view. There's no need of getting offensive to express an opinion…..C'mon people, we're on this together!'
I agree. Stick with us.
@Ante Kvartuc
I think I will stop writing and just comment "well said" to a majority of you on this site. Once again, I agree with everything on your last few comments.
"I will miss those Istra-Karlovac recaps. Monday mornings will never be the same." classic line.
"IT WAS FUNNY!!! This is not a communist website!!!! You're allowed to LAUGH!!!!!!!!!" another classic line.
@dinamofan
part 2
"They even pander to you and say Ziva knows best just to pat your ego. "
I never kissed ass to anyone on this website. I respect each and every one of you, went off on a few of you, disagreed with many of you, and give praise to those that I feel deserved the recognition.
"the only reason i'm back on it is to defend alex who is being accused of being me"
I am sure that Alex is devastated by this accusation. He probably cant sleep at night.
"the leagues which denis and ante always used to moan about doing which is all to your credit"
The reason we 'moaned' is that we are not the right men for the job. We dont follow the HNL as well as others. You are the right man for the job, end of story.
"i'm not hassled by ziva"
you are only lying to yourself man
"to slaven – you should apologies to alex."
You are really taking this too far. I don't think its a big deal. Fun and games. Lighten up.
"I will miss those Istra-Karlovac recaps. Monday mornings will never be the same." Best line yet!
'Its means the work i've been doing and you set me to task on is a load of crap and he don't wanna see anymore of it. So why you applauding it you dope. '
Wow you have us all wrong. Ziva Istina is one person that doesnt NEED your report. I put the key word in bold for you. here it is again for you… he he he he he..
Have you ever picked up a newpaper where people go off on numerous writers. Not everyone will like or need your work.
from Ivo Miljanovic:
"Mate, don't give up on this project call CSR. You have the knowledge that's needed here."
There is nothing left for me to say… the evidence speaks for itself.
"its my right to leave and am doing so. At the end of the day i gave something to CSR when i didn't have to but also have the right to withdraw it if its not going down well. "
I agree. However, I hope you reconsider. If not, I wish you the best of luck. Also, hopefully, you will continue to be a part of prva generacija and join us in future discussions.
@dinamofan:)
Part 1
"i definitely wouldn't expect at English lesson on from people on CSR… its hardly the most cultured website in the world"
some harsh words by you. Slaven asked an acceptable question if you were Alex… I don't know why you flipped..
"its not like its getting marked.. or matters even slightly"
Just to let you know, Stimac and his people, Slaven Bilic and his people, Vecernji List, Slobodna Dalmacija, Jutarnji List, Sportske Novosti, 24 sata, and many others are all interested in what Croatian fans around the world think…
'At the end of the day i'm finished with CSR more or less.'
I think you are making a huge mistake. People love and appreciate your work here at CSR. As far as 'regards to and regarding' who cares? People make mistakes. AS far as the whole 'how come you support England but not USA' and religious comments, this will follow you for the rest of your life. Once again, not important. You have to learn how to shake this off and not let this effect you personally.
I don't care what your background is, where you are from, and who you support. What I care about is that you know your shit about the HNL. I can guarantee that hundreds of people love your work. It would be a shame if you should quit over a few minor incidents.
" i didn't send it to them or asking them to use it. i say they could if they wanted, but also they didn't have to."
We used your report because it is quality. If there were a dozen websites or blogs like CSR, they would all use your report.
"you're like one irritating object. Definitely get my vote for the most annoying person in the world."
This explains everything. A few people make some comments and all of a sudden you explode.
"As i say they didn't have to use my report, but they used it. "
Why do you keep writing this?
from Slaven…
"Regards the HNL reports, it will definately be missed."
" look who my friggin audience is .. Ziva Istina. "
This is where you are wrong. Zivi is one person out of hundreds of people that read your post. Just because they dont comment doesnt make then uninterested.
All I have received is praise from our followers regarding your weekly reports.
"I don't need CSR".. "I already realised its relatively easy to set up CSR. "
I don't know what you were looking for from CSR. I agree, CSR is relatively easy to set up. However, its difficult to stay in business for 2 years, difficult to meet with Igor Stimac, Slaven Bilic, heads of Hajduk Split, credentials, and to have a huge fan base and followers.
How would you like to visit Croatia and be paid to report on the HNL? This might be possible one day.
How about this? You are the one that organized Dinamo to play an EPL team in London. Get my drift?
NO MORE COMMENTS BEYOND THIS POINT.. WHOEVER DOES IS A TOSSER!
yeah your actually right there dan – it does only get a small number of views a day. i doubt it really has more than 20 readers – all of who comment.
Where is all this crap about sissy fits come from. You think i care about all this trype you lot are wasting your lifetime writing (talk about olic or klasnic or something – change the fucking subject). its you lot throwing the sissy fits not me.. go back to the top of the thread. Slaven moaned about alex saying regards thinking it was me. i told him he won't need to hear regards anymore cos i left. Its not a sissy fit. I've left.. Ante knows i left — i do communicate with off CSR you know. Its simply stating a fact. I left cos the site is limited and audience yes as you put it dan only a handful of people..
I said i'd write up to winter break and done that and now someone else can take it over. Also where are you all.. shouldn't one of you be offering? CSR isn't entitled to use any of my work again.. That is not a sissy fit. I'm going in a new direction which does not involve CSR. When i say i leave and don't leave it is about reports. I was writing reports and now i'm not. Cmon.. its not Physics or something .. you can work it out..
Regards Ziva – the guy is a paedophile and i doubt he has a job cos he'd lose it in 5 secs in his employer ever read his posts.
I never heard this guy tell one joke – he's got nothing. the guys a loser.. As for Hrvasplican that comment was cheesy. Who the hell is Jenna Jameson.. Also ahem "too thick to write for CSR" says it all really doesn't it.. and thats not my comment..
Lets get this straight – i have no real ambitions to go into journalism. it was interesting to play with CSR writing for a few months, but then quickly got boring.
I'm offering up an opportunity so why are you not all looking at it this way??? Shouldn't your view be so nobody writer is leaving so who GIVES A FUCK!
Fuk me dinamofan ur acting like ur leaving a 100,000 dollar paying job. In reality this site only gets about 50 views a day and it's still run under blogger. Ur fits are worse than my little sisters sometimes I wonder if ur a little 14 year old pretending to be all grown up. Buddy if u want to be a journalist u have to be open to critsism, not have a sisy fit everytime a person does not agree with you. I'm pretty sure this is isn't the first time we've all gone through this and you've 'thretend' to leave the site.
@Dinamofan
The fact that you gave a reply actually means more than your comment.. YOU FOOL! I haven't seen someone more butt hurt since Jenna Jameson
Wow, I don't check CSR for a day and I miss quite a blowout.
@Dinamofan, not sure if you'll be around long enough to read this, but I read your HNL reports regularly if it makes you any less pissed off. Sure I can check out the Croatian sites but CSR is pretty convenient, not to mention all of the wonderful comment board discussions we have. Ziva istina is by nature harsh, but you shouldn't lose any sleep over it. And besides, many of us would laugh a good %50 less without ziva istina's presence on CSR. It has been said many times, we all bring something to the site. Chill out, take a deep breath, and Slaven is right, go down a shot of sljivovica. Hope you stay on the site, but if not best wishes.
someone send me dinamofan's mailing address. I have purchased some tampons for him.
Plain disgraceful. How is it such that a writer and reader can get into such an arguement over a segment/article. This site doesn't need this garbage wasting its comment section. All a bunch of whingers. Stop having hissy fits your not 10 years old.
@ dinamofan:)
Haha, wow dude, me, a mental breakdown?
Mentally, i think ill be able to deal with a couple jabs and criticism if it comes my way.
As for Mr. Schildenfeld, when he does hit it big, i'll be laughing all the way to the bank!
what a wimp… too scared to write in english.. stop hiding behind croatian lol
@dinamofan……sine, pa nemoj tako. Vrati se i sve ce biti dobro.
tvoja mama.
lets not get excited here… Firstly Ante BBB is harmless.. also all i'm doing here is stepping aside to let someone else have a go.. nothing more nothing less. what is the problem here?
Hey dinamofan 🙂 This is John Doevic, the dude who went inside Torcida… Just so you know I used to go out with an English bird (streight out of Essex) and when I read your English accent, I am reminded of all the time I spent in jolly 'ol England and how I miss seeing all the blokes take a piss at each other. I would like to let you know that when you work in "journalism" there will always be audience that agrees with you and audience that doesn't. You cannot allow the audience to determine what is personally important and valuable to you. You have to always respect your audience, but you don't have to agree with them because an audience consists of too many annonymous opionions.
I think a lot of people were in favor of crusifying me cause I took picutres inside Torcida. People like Ante BBB was calling for physical harm! How did I feel about that? I knew none of these people knew what it is to be a photojournalist. None of them had been in a war or a riot or a flood or a forrest fire. As a journalist nothing can touch my resolve, not the boys in the hood wearing colors and not Torcida.
You seemed to be easily affected by the audience. If this is the case maybe it's better that you not write the report. In journalism it always comes down to loving what your doing wether your paid or not. If you ain't lovin it mate, then just don't do it.
You are part of this community that is very much like the English culture in that a group of blokes take a piss at one another over football and pints……this is what you are giving up…..
I'm just warning Ivica of a possible future personal meltdown of his own. But who know maybe CSR develops more next year (esp if it has more interviews and first hand reports) – but if he gets stuck on having to do Gordon Schildenfeld reports each week then he'll be half volleying cats before we know it..
I apologies if that comes over as trashing him. Yes maybe i am talking for myself here. its definitely not my cuppa tea to write for free and then get slaughtered by a ziva.. if the league is crap by your own admission why would i wanna continue with it?
@ dinamo,
I really don't know what else to say. I just said 20 nice things about you right now and you hang onto the one miniscule comment about a funny line that ziva istina said. IT WAS FUNNY!!! This is not a communist website!!!! You're allowed to LAUGH!!!!!!!!!
And FYI, you know damn well I don't agree with that statement, otherwise I wouldn't have been posting HNL reports PERIOD. You need to understand that the HNL as a league is a joke, not your reports. And if you take one guy's comments this far, how could you possibly make it in journalism as a writer? I'm not trying to rag on you but writers get criticized on a daily basis. That's just the reality of the job. And if we can't laugh at ourselves, then what's the point?
I'm trying to be supportive here but you keep talking taking hacks at everybody. I'd love to hear how you can justify talking trash about Ivica. He's been nothing short of fantastic in Denis' absence. Can't wait to see how the three of us work together on a full time basis.
"We'll see won't we" -DF
What's going on? Where did this meltdown come from? We're all friends here with a common interest but different view points. That's all. I know it's getting rainy and gloomy in England, but we can't let the weather get us down 'ol chap.
You're better than this. I've see it.
re: Ivica
We'll see won't we. I'm pretty sure you're gonna want to punch Gordon Schildenfeld in the face after saying his name every single week – a few months down the line. He'll be appearing in your dreams before you know it..
Hrvasplican – your post was plain boring – can't even be bothered to respond to that.
Ante i think you just blew everything with that last comment.
"I will miss those Istra-Karlovac recaps. Monday mornings will never be the same." Best line yet!
Do you know what that even means. Its means the work i've been doing and you set me to task on is a load of crap and he don't wanna see anymore of it. So why you applauding it you dope. I can see what it means and giving the guy his wish. Yes Splican someone can take it over and you'll be a more solid unit following my departure.. no probs cya's..
I can't believe what my eyes are reading right now. This is some of the funniest stuff that I've seen in a while! What the hell happened here?!
@ dinamofan,
I understand that you are upset. Although, I don't know why. Productive banter is something that makes CSR great. I love waking up in the morning watching Ziva Istina and Ante BBB battle everyone else with verbal darts. I thought you were used to it by now. We're not here to cry over spilt milk.
I knew you didn't want to be a part of CSR weeks ago and I was planning for you to have a graceful exit…I guess I could throw those plans out the window now. Know that you are always welcome at CSR…to post and to comment. I also hope that you have a nice winter break. We all know that Croatian fans need it after a rough 2009. I always appreciated your hard work and timeliness. You were a great asset to the CSR family and we hope to have you back. Hopefully we haven't heard Regards for a final time.
@ Ziva,
Yes, you are rough around the edges at times but are entertaining to listen to as well as informative. Straight and to the point. I know you have your own sources and get news almost instantaneously and don't really have a need for CSR, but I think I speak for all of us when I say that we would miss you if you left. Same with Ante BBB. Keep up the controversial comments, even though I want to kill you guys sometimes! 🙂
"I will miss those Istra-Karlovac recaps. Monday mornings will never be the same." Best line yet!
@Dinamofan:)
Dude, there has been plenty of occasions why I've been personally pissed at Ziva Istina or you for that matter but you've never seen me go on a rant like you are currently doing. All Ziva said is that because HE reads the croatian newspapers and sources, that HE doesn't need to read your report. Why are your panties in a bunch over this?
I think your reports are good and informative, but at the same time, my personal opinion is that CSR doesn't need a drama queen. So, while I'd like to see you still write the 1. HNL reports, post, etc., someone will pick up the slack and do an admirable job. Toodles!
Guys, chill out. Everyone's contributions are extremely useful. What makes this site so interesting is the different points of view. There's no need of getting offensive to express an opinion.
I have to say that I just started to check this site only months ago, but now I can't stop checking it several times during the day. At risk of being taken as presumptuous: C'mon people, we're on this together! Don't get under each other skin.
@ Dinamofan: Mate, don't give up on this project call CSR. You have the knowledge that's needed here.
Regards
you can't replace ante bbb…that guy is the best…where is he?
@ dinamofan:)
I have been reading/posting on this site nearly since its beginning. I was thrilled when Ante and Denis asked me to become a writer. Aside from daily posts, Croatians Around Europe is definitely no small task, but I look forward to putting together reports on the weekend to keep track on how our guys are doing in their respective leagues.
With regards to this being a "short term thing," I respectfully say: speak for yourself.
I plan on being involved with CSR as long as CSR exists.
no hug i'm in a slashing mood… no more to be said on this i don't think… adios … just wanted to say i'm not alex and alex is not me… end of story. just like you ziva was accused of being ciganski once.. i'm just clearing up that i'm not alex… end of story.. hnl1 can be taken over by anyone from now on. this is a good thing. it means its a fresh start and can be done in a different way. i done it how i was doing it for 3 months, now let someone do it a different way… its not rocket science.. what do you want me to do – do it for the whole of 2010.. and your accusing me of not having a life. its a short term thing – you'll do for a while then move on. Ivica will know what i mean in a few months time…
I thought I'd do you a favor. I guess you have to be cruel to be kind. To be honest, it was fucking annoying to read regards this and regards that. You're in a fighting mood over nothing and I'm not interested.
what's wrong with you dinamofan…..
Nobody here caters to me. I stated the HNL report is not needed; some agreed and some disagreed. Leave it at that….My reasoning for the HNL reports is due to the fact that anyone can get them in real time on numerous websites as opposed to waiting 24 hours for it on this website. No harm, no foul.
As for them "catering" to me because they used my question at Stimac……Well, it was a good question and question worthy of being asked. hey, newsflash…I don't want to hoot my own horn here, but I am more connected and in the know about some issues within croatian soccer so that is the reason I make some of the statements. Especially with the national team and hajduk.
Now, do you need a hug, because if you do, I'm sure we can organize a group hug for you. Can't you just feel the love.
hehe person who likes to analyse the wording of people's posts told me to get a life.. yikes..
Wow, get a life.
well good luck to both you slaven and ivica, especially ivica. ante was saying that perhaps i might felt jealous of you being on team, but like shit i do.. you're reports are outstanding and you're prepared to tread into the leagues which denis and ante always used to moan about doing which is all to your credit.
I must be honest – i'm not hassled by ziva. i'm leaving partly cos i don't want him as a audience.. he's a disrespectful cunt who needs booting off the face of the earth. If he was sent to saturn – give him a space helmut and suit even if you must and let him talk all day long as long as nobody has to hear it.
its my right to leave and am doing so. At the end of the day i gave something to CSR when i didn't have to but also have the right to withdraw it if its not going down well. that's cool and that's life. i move on. my other blog is not CSR competition – i'm interested in everything from boxing to athletics and i just wanna take an interest in anything. i'm not a limited tosser like ziva is..
to slaven – you should apologies to alex. what you trying to do get rid of another CSR member. me and alex have argued before. do you think i organise arguements with myself or something..
the only reason i'm back on it is to defend alex who is being accused of being me.. but hopefully i've clarified that one for you now slaven..
dinamofan:), it sounds like you think I'm part of the CSR inner circle and you're treated as an outsider even though you made HNL reports here. It's all what you make of it, man. You volunteered to report the HNL here-and I think you did a great job of it, but now you're so pissed because ziva doesn't care for the HNL reports? Sure he pissed me off before too because he sometimes comes across as cynical but I didn't let it get to me.
After we failed to qualify for the WC, I just wanted to throw out my NT jerseys and stay away from the soccer scene. This little drama between you and ziva is nothing compared to the REAL drama in the last year with the team.
@dinamofan:)
I always enjoyed you reports man. best of luck to you and your site.
if u don't need it fuck off the bloody site then loser..
you don't need CSR……shit, none of us need CSR. Just a nice sight to talk some shit about soccer, err football as you brits/englisg/scots/welsh refer to it.
and good bye to a resident yugo-loving, mujo-loving, englez.
"I never said your reports were bad. They were fine, just worthless and not needed in my eyes since we can get all the info in real time from the numerous websites in Cro."
REGARDS this … basically tell me where else would a person give you what you want. You say you don't want HNL1 reports and want something different – well i vacated my position and you've got exactly what you asked for. in addition to this Denis asked your question to Stimac. I think CSR goes out its way a lot for u. They even pander to you and say Ziva knows best just to pat your ego. We've done quite a bit for you… so in return can you do something for us and shut that motor mouth of yours..
This is fucking England you dickhead… Britian is like fucking Yugoslavia…
Put your finger to your mouth in future and think what you are saying. i don't write or waste my time on prats.. end of story – you know what i say that a lot too.. make a note of it Slaven..
I don't need CSR.. good luck to them with what they are doing, but you know what the world is bigger than just Croatia and this is all far too limited for me.. I already realised its relatively easy to set up CSR. I think CSR will continue without so called Dinamofan:) my stupid idiotic made up name.. Best of luck to it and best of luck to 80% of people on this site.. no Ante you don't have to apologies for the race of Croatians.. Every country has its morons..
Relax asshole…….look at you getting all out of control because a few people ripped your report.
I never said your reports were bad. They were fine, just worthless and not needed in my eyes since we can get all the info in real time from the numerous websites in Cro.
If going after me gives you a hard-on, thats cool. I just happen to state my opinion and back it up with reasonable thoughts.
You can go back to doing whatever it is you brits actually do.
At the end of the day Slaven, aren't you supposed to be Ante and Denis's friend right whereas i don't know them from adam but still wrote for them for the last 3 months when i really had no motive to do it. Plus despite putting up with gobshites like Ziva i reached winter break and gave them till February to find a replacement.
Maybe you should do something to support them rather than helping get rid of there staff. Seriously i don't know why you approach me with stuff like regards/ regarding. what do you want me to say? look who my friggin audience is .. Ziva Istina. Says it all really doesn't it. You don't go out your way to write quality article and get everything correct when your audience is Ziva Istina..
Woah, relax. Have some slivovica. Don't let the internal politics/differences of this forum piss you off so much. You should me more pissed off over us not qualifying for the WC. Regards the HNL reports, it will definately be missed.
At least we some things in common. I know both of you guys went off the deep end a few days ago but you're both fantastic to have here and hear your perspectives, insights and more so the reports.
Whatever you say moron… Are you still with us.. i thought i told you what to do with yourself.. theres no getting rid of you is there? they should use you to knock down walls. you're like one irritating object.. Definitely get my vote for the most annoying person in the world..
As i say they didn't have to use my report, but they used it. You're gonna have to have words with them. I'm with you on this one. STOP NOW NO MORE REPORTS FROM DINAMOFAN… END OF.. NEVER AGAIN.. its not me who put up that report on the weekend. i never sent it them..
I will miss those Istra-Karlovac recaps. Monday mornings will never be the same.
As i say Alex is a different person, but he has a right to express himself however he likes. At the end of the day i'm finished with CSR more or less. They used my HNL1 report from my own blog at the weekend, but that's the very last one so you won't be hearing no more regards or whatever it is thats bugging you. Basically they didn't have to use my report at the weekend.. i didn't send it to them or asking them to use it. i say they could if they wanted, but also they didn't have to.
There's a vacancy on HNL1 reports each weekend if you wannn.it.. You'll be putting yourself up to be shot at, but still better than sitting on arse moaning.. maybe you should take the vacancy and have your own play with words, images, video's and reports.
Don't get mad. I just want to correct you, politely.
"It's more than fresh legs regards Butt…" is incorrect.
It should be: It's more than fresh legs, regarding Butt..
or
Regarding Butt, it's more than fresh legs..
Whatever.
everybody can talk, write however they like on CSR … Even write the wrong word, mistype — do whatever shit – its not like its getting marked.. or matters even slightly…
Slaven – what you talking about. With regards to and regarding are both the same thing and are both acceptable. Also maybe you need to understand that i come from England and that there are different ways of using the language in England and America.. Strange thing you just came out with there… i definitely wouldn't expect at English lesson on from people on CSR… its hardly the most cultured website in the world
Nope… Alex and me are two different people..
Alex, are you really dinamofan? Dinamofan always says "regards" when he really means "regarding". It's his favorite word.
Its more than fresh legs regards Butt- he has scored twice v Juve from the penalty spot in past CL matches. His pk was one of the slickest, most nonchalant i've ever seen. I'm now a Jorg Butt fan.
As for Olic, it's one of the great mysteries why a player who's been a talisman at all his clubs since his days in Croatia has never been one for the NT. Yes, he's had his good games, but they're too few and far between to call his NT career a success. While he definately can play out left in a 3 man attack, he's still a striker, with a strikers instinct for goal and a typical strikers habit of not looking to pass/build play (plus, his crossing is average at best).
If anyone has ideas as to why this is, I'd love to hear opinions.
Mate Bilic out for month
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/soccer/wires/12/09/2080.ap.soc.sporting.gijon.bilic.0110/
he is not going anywhere. Da Silva will always be part of a rotation of forwards at Arsenal. He is not a great forward capable of being the man to defeat any of the big teams in England, but there is a place for him ont he Arsenal squad.
I hate to change subjects, but:
Muscle pull for Eduardo the other day. He's not in the lineup or on the bench against Olympiacos. Wenger has stated he is going to shop for a new striker in January. Does this new contract for Eduardo mean anything or will he be on his way out with the acquisition of younger talent by Wenger.
It's good to see Olic get into his element at Bayern. Him and Petric were the best striking duo around at Hamburg. He's proven to be the fastest player at the EURO 08 tournament which helps his sprint and twitch goals. It was also brilliant for Van Gaal to use the goalie to shoot in the PK. The goalie is booting the ball the whole game and has relatively fresh legs. If only Bilic let Pletikosa take some PKs against the Turks, we may have won the tournament. Anyways, it's good to see Bayern come back from a slow start.
When Modric is back 100%, I can't imagine Kranjcar coming off. Modric and Kranjcar side by side in the midfield would work well, rather than at opposite wings. Both can handle the ball exceptionally and can create a big space in the midfield together. If Mandzukic doesn't make it to Tottenham in the winter transfer window, he'll go to a German club for alot more cash in the summer transfer window. The winter transfers typically are lowball figures. If he does go to Tottenham I'm going to get a Spurs jersey. Croatia jr in the EPL. In the few NT games he's played, he has been impressive. Smart playmaker and agressive striker.
DENIS, thank you for the postcard from Bol! Much respect, gazda.
All you can ask of any player in any sport is to give maximum effort and Olic does that. Yes, he is not a natural goal scorer, but his pace, energy and hustle has led to numerous importnat goals for the national by him or one of his teamates.
Olic's work-ethic is matched by only an handful of players in the game. Much like Andrej said, to have a player running up and down the field like Olic does can really throw an opponent's gameplan way off. It's like throwing a monkey wrench into the gears of a machine.
He'll be a major factor in the rest of Bayern's CL run.
http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/articles/greattobebackluka091209.html
As for Luka, Spurs have held their own without him. It is going to be interesting to see how they will get him back into the lineup. Is Kranjcar going to see more bench despite playing well since arriving to Spurs?
olic does rarley score amazing goals but he is not a natural stiker he is winger to me imo. but with his pace and work rate he does better then most players because he provides himself with scoring chances by being all over the field and causing havoc and bringing pace and always there on putbacks…he also has good air game on that note he does deserve to be a starter at bayern and is there best buy of the summer sadly over gomez who i find very lazy but who has abilty to score great goals…regardless olic is a deff call to the national team because of his nonstop energy and im glad for him and bayern to be doing this they have won all 3 games since he has came back and he may never be a great player but he brings space and spreads the defense and with ribery he will be even better maybe the scoring record isnt great but he brings what the stat sheet cant show you
I'm not the biggest fan of Olic as he rarely scores 'quality' goals but he has single-handedly saved Bayern's Champions League season in the past two matches. Olic registered both game-winning goals against Juve and Maccabi Haifa. Wow, never thought I'd see the day.