ENGLAND
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Nikica Jelavić continued his scoring form going into the international break, heading home a difficult Steven Pienaar deflected shot from a tight angle to equalize for Everton in the 11th minute Saturday for Everton. The goal came only seconds after Wigan’s Arouna Koné scored to give Wigan the early lead, with replay showing he was well offside. Jelavić played the full 90 minutes, receiving a yellow card in the 60th minute. He finished the match with four shots, with his header goal the only one on frame.
With Everton down 2-1 late, a foul in the box set up a late penalty kick which Leighton Baines would take and convert. The goal would force a 2-2 draw at The DW. The draw drops Everton down to fourth in the table, now earning them 14 points from the first seven matches of the season.
With goals two straight weekends now, is Jelavić a lock to start vs. Macedonia on Friday?
Jelavić header at 0:30
After a penalty kick goal vs. Manchester United last weekend, Mladen Petrić was left off the Fulham squad for Sunday’s match versus Southhampton. It is unknown if it was due to injury or not. The game would end in a 2-2 draw.
UKRAINE
Photo: Shakhtar
11 games. 11 wins. Shakhtar Donetsk remain perfect to start the season after a 2-0 victory over Metalist on Sunday. Captain Darijo Srna got the start and played 90 minutes while Eduardo rode the pine in this match. Srna did not contribute to either of the two goals but kept the defense strong to keep the shutout. Going into the international break, Shakhtar now hold a nine-point advantage on second place in the Ukrainian Premier League. Will they drop points this season at all?
Dnipro defeated Dynamo Kiev 2-1 Sunday night to put both teams in a tie for second place in Ukraine, with 24 points from 11 games. Ivan Strinić received the start for Dnipro and played all 90 minutes in the win. He was not at fault for Dynamo’s 94′ injury time goal as Miguel Veloso’s shot from 30 yards out rocketed into the back of the net. Nikola Kalinić remained on the bench as unused substitute for Dnipro.
After both starting midweek for Dynamo Kiev in their 2-0 win over Dinamo Zagreb in Champions League, Niko Kranjčar and Ognjen Vukojević did not see the pitch Sunday versus Dnipro. Will either receive some playing time vs. Macedonia or Wales in the next nine days?
Germany
Photo: Bundesliga
Bayern Munich continued their Bundesliga domination with a 2-0 shutout of Hoffenheim on Saturday. Former Dinamo Zagreb striker, Mario Mandžukić, started and played the full 90 minutes in the win but failed to get his 7th goal in 7 games for the Bavarian Giants. Mario played a part in the second goal as his cross found Toni Kroos, who found Franck Ribery for the second goal. Bayern are now five points clear of Frankfurt atop the Bundesliga table.
Photo: AP Photo/Martin Meissner
New striker, same result for Wolfsburg. Srdjan Lakić got a surprise start on Saturday for the disappointing Ivica Olić. The former Kaiserslautern star played the full 90 minutes but failed to get anything going in a 3-0 loss to Schalke in front of 60,671 at Veltins Arena. Srdjan missed a great opportunity in the dying minutes of the game failing to get past Schalke keeper Lars Unnerstall on a one-on-one chance. Olić came on for Wolfsburg in the 51st minute for Emanuel Pogatetz and failed to register a shot on goal. Schalke enjoyed 61% of possession and dominated from start to finish. Wolfsburg have dropped three straight matches and are winless in their last five.
PHOTO: Spiegel
Former Dinamo Zagreb defensive midfielder, Milan Badelj, continues to impress for Hamburg in a 1-0 win over SpVgg Greuther Fürth on Saturday. The Croatian international started and played the full 90 minutes as Hamburg have won three of their last four matches and haven’t lost a Bundesliga match since September 16th. Milan received player of the match honors and will surely have Igor Štimac’ attention for the upcoming qualifiers. Ivo Iličević was left off the roster sheet for Hamburg because of a hamstring injury. The 25-year-old, Croatian international is listed as questionable for the upcoming World Cup qualifier at Macedonia on Friday night.
Former Club Brugge star, Ivan Perišić, looked on from the bench as Borussia Dortmund was held to a disappointing 1-1 draw at Hannover 96 on Sunday. Ivan will be looking for the start for Croatia against Macedonia and Wales next weekend. Croatian international, Ivan Klasnić, was left off the roster for Mainz in 1-0 win over Fortuna. No word on why Klasnić was left off the roster sheet.
France
Croatian international, Dejan Lovren, started and played the full 90 minutes for Lyon in a 1-1 draw at Lorient. The game was tight from start to finish with each team finding the back of the net only once. The former Dinamo Zagreb defender was not at fault for the lone goal. Lyon and Lorient remained third and fourth on the Ligue 1 table with the draw.
Italy
Former Hajduk Split star, Ante Vukušić, is still looking for his first goal at Pescara as his side was embarrassed 3-0 by Lazio in front of 16,000 fans at Stadio Adriatica on Sunday. Ante started and played 66 minutes but failed to register a shot after receiving no service from the Pescara play-makers. Vukušić remains scoreless in five serie A matches.
SPAIN
Ivan Rakitić (above) sat out of Sevilla’a 2-0 defeat to Celta Vigo due to a yellow card suspension. They host Mallorca after the international break.
Luka Modrić was an unused sub in Real Madrid’s midweek Champions League victory over Ajax and in the 2-2 El Clasico draw on Sunday. He will be well rested for Croatia’s upcoming games.
RUSSIA
Stipe Pletikosa was in net on Sunday as Rostov lost a tough one to Terek Grozny 2-1. Stipe made some big saves and got help from his crossbar but it wasn’t enough, and he was hopeless on Terek’s two goals. After Rostov’s hot start, they now sit in 14th place, one point out of the relegation zone.
Dario Krešić started for Lokomotiv Moscow in their disappointing 1-0 defeat at home against Terek Grozny. Vedran Ćorluka sat out due to yellow card accumulation. Krešić came out on a cross in the first half and took an elbow from a Terek Grozny player, resulting in a very bloody nose, but he was able to play on. Grozny’s goal came from a tight angle, but the defense was at fault and it appeared the attacker was offsides.
Goal at 3:20
Gordon Schildenfeld (3) finally made his return to Dinamo Moscow’s lineup in their 2-0 loss to Anzhi. Gordon was shown his marching orders in the 52nd minute for a handball that appeared to be intentional as Anzhi was headed for a probable breakaway. This will surely not get him the playing time he is looking for.
Tomislav Dujmović was once again not in Mordovia’s lineup.
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That could and does happen in every corner of the globe….so? Shit happens and you move on. You clean up, bury the dead, rebuild and get on with life.
Again I repeat sad to live your life cowering in your basement dreading every coceivable conspiracy is just around the corner….
And yet they still deny. Read this from today’s news. All it would take is a couple of bombs in Dubrovnik and boom there goes the tourist season and our economy. Wake Up!!
http://www.theprovince.com/news/Bosnian+police+detain+terrorism+suspects+raid+homes+throughout/7369058/story.html
Odavno smo granicari stari
The Balkans
Territories that constitute the Balkan region of the peninsula roughly following political borders (in dark orange are marked the territories located mostly inside the peninsula and in light orange mostly outside the peninsula)The term “The Balkans” covers not only those countries which lie within the boundaries of the Balkan Peninsula, but may also include Slovenia and Romania.[11] Prior to 1991 the whole of Yugoslavia was considered to be part of the Balkans.[14] The term “The Balkans” is sometimes used to describe only the areas in the Balkan peninsula: Moesia, Macedonia, Thrace, Kosovo, Šumadija, Bosnia, Herzegovina, Dalmatia, Thessaly, Epirus, Peloponnese and others, but more often it includes the rest of former Yugoslavia (Serbia, Croatia and Slovenia) and Romania,[11] namely the provinces of: Vojvodina, Slavonia, Banat, Wallachia, Moldavia, Transylvania, and others. Italy as a totality, is generally accepted as part of Western Europe and the Apennines. The term “the Balkans” was coined by August Zeune in 1808.
The Balkans comprise the following territories:[15]
Albania (28,748 km2)
Bosnia and Herzegovina (51,197 km2)
Bulgaria (110,993 km2)
Croatia (56,594 km2)
Greece (131,990 km2)
Kosovo[a] (10,908 km2)
Macedonia (25,713 km2)
Montenegro (13,812 km2)
Romania (238,391 km2)
Serbia (88,361 km2 including Kosovo; 77,474 km2 excluding Kosovo[a])
Turkey (23,764 km2 Eastern Thrace)
Slovenia (20,273 km2) – mostly not included[16][17]
All territories (745,799 km2 excluding Slovenia; 766,072 km2 including Slovenia)
You speak in generalities Timmo like all bigots.
Heard it in a cafe from some tax driver the one time I was in Turkey and so that means it is true of all Turks. You’re full of it, just like Elvis.
Once you start seeing conspiracies everywhere, you can’t go back. Sad way to live one’s life.
Neo-Ottomanism, which stems from the Turkish-Islam Synthesis, contends that Turkey should promote its engagement with the nations formerly part of the Ottoman Empire and influence their policies. This includes Bosnia and you can bet your Burka that they will try to make inroads into Croatia.
Can we include Turkey in the Balkan league? I could careless since Croatia is not a Balkan Country.
@TIMMO
At least U understand.
@Anonymous
They gloat in their crimes. That’s the issue and since they do this it exposes their true nature and intentions. There is no public dialogue on Turkey’s crimes at all. If you are speak of them over there your life is in danger. Is this what you want to come to Croatia? Again, I have no issue with Turkey as long as it stays in Asia its home. They have no business creeping their way back in. We don’t need war if we follow a policy of containment as impractical as it may sound. Can you not see what they are doing?
Uefa zapovijeda: Svi u Balkansku ligu!
http://www.nogometni-magazin.com/newspro/coranto/viewnews.cgi?id=EFuAlVZAypMPAcofHT&tmpl=coranto_hrv_news
Elvis, my point was not to argue the numbers re Ustasa crimes.
My point was simply you cannot expect one generation to apologize for the sins of a previous generation, whatever they are, simply because they are the same race; full stop. I did not commit the sins of my father, just like my son does not inherit my sins…..
Simple leftist position? Yeah ok.
@ Dom
Whats signs look very good?
@Anonymous
-U- crimes are over stated. I do not believe the numbers that the Serbs throw around. One Million people? Not true. They lie for political gain. Has anyone found the jar of eyeballs that Ante had on his desk? Not to excuse those that did do awful things.
You are not looking at Turkish culture. You are coming from a very simple leftist position where we are always the bad guys. Turkish culture promotes and argues that the Ottoman times were so peaceful and good. Never will one say the harm that it has caused the people in SE Europe. Turkey can stay where it is I have no need to go there. However, they are coming to us again. this time using soft power. How well do Christians do in Turkey?
We need to stand, all of us in SE and stand against them. All of us.
John Candy is not funny? News to me.
http://is.gd/3kJkcY
I wrote a story about Halilovic’s national team career, including exclusive quotes from his father and the coach of the BiH national team!
The signs look very good!
Follow my group on Facebook to see it, and more news about Halilovic and everything Cro-soccer related especially now in this time of mayhem. I have a cousin in Zagreb giving me the inside view on everything.
Join here:
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dude, if you are going to copy and paste at least give credit to the source.
Dragi Igore. Pišem ovo pismo iz Osijeka. To je grad u Hrvatskoj. Ima autocesta od Zagreba. Možeš izaći na izlazu za Čepin pa ćeš uštedjeti nekoliko kuna cestarine što će obradovat Šukera.
Kad dođeš do Osijeka vozi se obilaznicom i vidjet ćeš stadion. Ovdje igra nogometni klub Osijek. Natječu se u 1. HNL. To je ona liga u kojoj gazduje tvoj šef Mamić. Da, da Zdravko Mamić za kojega si rekao da je mafijaš i grobar nogometa. On te nazvao razbojnikom. Baš nekulturno. No, dobro kad ti je ponudio izborničko mjesto i udio u transferima Dinamovih nogometaša brzo si se predomislio, pa je sada Zdravko Nećeš Razbojniče Mamić tvoj dobar poslovni prijatelj. Novac spaja ljude. Svi smo dirnuti kako ste se stavili u funkciju hrvatskog nogometa. Nemoj se obazirati što vas vrijeđaju na svakom hrvatskom stadionu… Pusti sirotinju da se zabavlja na svoj način, a vi radite biznis kako ste se dogovorili. Dogovor kuću gradi!
Inače u Osijeku je rođen i tvoj novi prijatelj Davor Šuker, iako to od Njega vjerojatno nisi mogao čuti. Davor često kaže kako je Zagreb Njegov grad, a Dinamo Njegov klub. Nije mu za zamjeriti, jer On je brend. Tako bar On kaže za sebe. Trebamo mu vjerovati. Isto kao što mu trebamo vjerovati da nije sramota što po prvi put nema Hrvatske na FIFA igrici i da nije katastrofa što je HNS izgubio 100 000 dolara. Kaže Šuki da pravi frajeri igraju PES. Vjerojatno On igra PES pa zato priča o frajerima. Jer on je frajer i brend. Ujedno!
Uglavnom, NK Osijek ima mladu momčad sastavljenu od igrača iz škole nogometa. Ima nekoliko nadarenih igrača koji zaslužuju da ih makar jednom uživo pogledaš. Znam, znam moraš zvati igrače iz Dinama, jer to piše u ugovoru s vra…, pardon Mamićem. Imaš i ti pravo na poneki bonus, pa si zvao Radoševića kojeg zastupa tvoj brat. Da, dečko ima 18 godina i kažeš dobro igra. Ima tu u Osijeku polivalentan igrač. Vjerojatno nisi čuo za njega. Marko Lešković. Može igrati nekoliko pozicija, ima duel igru, igru glavom, pregled igre…Dolazi u gol šanse, zabija i asistira. Znam da je veliki hendikep što ne igra u Dinamu ili Hajduku, ali i Osijek je u Hrvatskoj. Sjećaš se učio si to iz zemljopisa.
Bojimo se da ih ti klubovi ne upropaste. Pogledaj Maglicu. U Osijeku bi bio glavni igrač, a u Hajduku skuplja lopte. Mali Špehar bi bio prvotimac, a u Dinamu igra za juniore, dok njegovi vršnjaci Kovačić i Halilović igraju u seniorima…Prodali smo mi Mamiću i braću Plum. Pojma nemam gdje su sada. Ako ne vjeruješ pitaj šefa!
Skoro sam ti zaboravio reći da su Osijekovi junior prvi u HNL-u za mlade. Pobjedili su i tvoj Hajduk i Mamićev Dinamo. Šta da im kažemo da rade ako žele napredovati? Imaju li šanse upasti u neku od reprezentacija ili moraju u Hajdin čak i sa Špeharovim poučkom?
Uglavnom Igore probaj odvojiti vremena i pogledati neku od utakmica Osijeka. Ako ti se svidi neki igrač ti se konzultiraj sa Mamićem pa ti možda odobri da makar kažeš poneku lijepu riječ o nekome od njih. Možeš zvati i Šukera da sve uljepša, jer On je ipak brend…
I spelled my own name wrong.
I am better than Kovacic and Halilovic.
Especially, since Ante Razov took over as my coach.
U BiH krenuli u lov na Halilovića: ‘Učinit ćemo sve da Alen nastupa za našu zemlju’
http://is.gd/2tvviI
VEĆ SE ZNA – Otkriveno tko će postati novi Vatreni!
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Ok Elvis, why would a Turkish citizen living today apologize for a war his ancestors waged 500 years ago?
Would you apologize for any wrongs committed by any stupid ancestors you have for before you were born?
Answer: Of course not because YOU had nothing to do with it.
P.S. The analogy stands. No-one should have to answer for wrongs perpetrated by a race prior to their birth. That is why the whole Serb campaign to look for apologies re Ustasa crimes is bogus.
I don’t talk about the Serbs very much any more. With Croatia armed I do not see them as a threat anymore. However, they do occupy Croatia lands in Bosnia. They can at least pay us rent.
Adame…………I’m sorry if I offended you. I know it’s not easy to have family members who are dalmatinke. Lord knows the amount of nonsense they spew.
How can you compare the two. Find me a German in Public who would say yeah those Slavs and Jews had it coming to them and it was our right to take their land etc etc.
Turkey makes no such apology and refuses to even discuss their past openly. They are one step away from becoming an Islamic Imperialist State. However, think of it like this…this would unite Serbs and Croats to fight one greater enemy right?
Elvis
Do you think a German living today, aged let’s say 24 years old should apologize for WWII?
@Anonymous
Well it doesn’t stop the other races when it comes to the West does it? The single greatest tragedy that hit Croatia were the Turkish wars. Look at how Croatia is shaped. The scars are still there. Has any Turk ever ever apologized for what they did? NO.
Its is well known here that Ziva really hates women. He has made so many bad comments about them. Ziva I understand if you live near Atlanta.
TIMMO how far are you going to back on that one?
My caveman forefather had a stone axe tossed at his head by your forefather! You owe me $1M in today’s currency for the transgressions of your dida! LOL
@ziva istina….my mother as well as many other female family members of mine are dalmatinkas. Please have respect when refering to them as whores and spreading their legs for any man. Thanks!
As Croats we have skin in this game. Turkey owes us reparations as well as most of Bosnia as compensation for their genocide committed against us.
@ Anonymous
You need to ask them why. You sound like that Turd that defended third world migration into Croatia when the Sammir thing broke. Turkey was denied entry into the EU. As a result they are looking to grow their markets and influence.
Along with this they will bring pan-Ottomanism and Islamic crap.
They have admitted it by the way. They are growing their influence and are not hiding it. Now it would be impossible to invade like in the past because it would bankrupt their economy and totally not practical. They will use economic pressure and will seek to strengthen and grow the Muslims in South Eastern Europe. Do you see how they have let millions of illegal migrants enter Greece. Do you think this wasn’t their goal? Wake Up!!!
Ok, I’ll bite…..what EXACTLY does Turkey gain in attacking that Balkan backwater currently known as Bosnia i Hercegovina? The massive resources? The bustling commerce? You people are fucking idiots!
I know BiH has the best bureke this side of Constantinople and they absolutely HAVE to have them!!!!!!!!
Fucking idiots every last one of you…..go read a Tom Clancy novel so that you can get your fill of conspiracy theories.
Dirty Turks!!!
The notion that Bosnia has been bequeathed by its fundamentalist Muslim leader to the Turkish state is unsurprisingly anathema to the non-Muslim majority of Bosnia’s citizens. “Bosnia and Herzegovina is not a land to be inherited,” said Igor Radojičić, the Bosnian Serb Parliament speaker. Bosnian Croat leader Dragan Čović expressed puzzlement that Izetbegović could imagine Bosnia was his to give away as a trust. Analysts outside Bosnia also expressed outrage. Serbian historian Čedomir Antić, called the statement “an unprecedented provocation” that should be “officially renounced by Bosnia, Croatia and Serbia”. Professor Darko Tanasković, Serbia’s former ambassador to Turkey, was not surprised, however. The statement represents a political reality, he said, that Turkey sees the Balkans as a priority in its ambitious foreign policy.
@Ante B
granični ima rupe
Timmo nema veze. Zasto nema?
…cuvali smo granicu na Savi
Here’s a pic of all your favorite player in the NT Camp! LOL
http://www.hrt.hr/index.php?id=sport-clanak&tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=184455&tx_ttnews%5BbackPid%5D=870&cHash=6cdce29c9e
http://www.slobodnadalmacija.hr/Nogomet/tabid/84/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/190044/Default.aspx
ahh poor luka. already in mourinho’s doghouse? i’d guess things are not going the way modric had envisioned so far
interesting maps on europe throughout history. hungary and lithuania were crushing it back in the 1300-1500 range!
Some of you need to wake up and understand what is happening. We are slowly being given over to Turkey again.
If Turkey invaded what do you think those in Bosna would do?
They would slit your throat. We have to stay united and help weaken and split Bosna. It is an enemy state!!
http://www.turkishweekly.net/news/141624/balkans-celebrate-peace-with-musical-tribute.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Haplogroup_I.png
Look how close Croatia and Bosnia are and Northern Europe.
@Doktor Prle
Right on brother!!!
@Ziva-“Where am I a dick…..since when is being objective and not a blind jock-sniffing homer a bad thing”this is probably exactly what you will say one day when your future wife walks out on you,citing you as a total dick.Man Ziva,you would have to be a real pain in the guzica to live with.Good luck to you.
Where am I a dick…..since when is being objective and not a blind jock- sniffing homer a bad thing.
Can’t we,can’t we all get along ?
@Ziva-Yes,I will give it to you,you are plenty correct plenty of the time.I dont want to clogg up the system with Ziva bashing,but you really are a dick lots of the time also.Its not being objective or constructive when you revert to being just a dick.Being “Ziva Istina” is all fine,you just get the lines blurred with being more”Veliki Supak”a lot of the time as well.
@ Bobby V
I get where you’re coming from (especially with the Cro media being notorious for the overhype), but Mateo and Alen are for real.
The way Mateo Kovacic seems to keep the ball alive is a very valuable skill that guarantees him at least an above average career. That second Dinamo goal on the Hajduk vs Dinamo game is a perfect example of this skill. He will be a Milan Badelj at the absolute least.
As for Alen Halilovic…his touch is unreal for a kid his age. The past two HNL games where Alen played garbage minutes but had an impact in both games was a testament to it. That beautiful assist to Krstanovic against Hajduk (that was called back as offside) was a thing of beauty. It was identical to the beautiful pass that Modric made to the foiled Rakitic header against Spain. Alen’s goal against Slaven Belupo last weekend, where he calmly chipped it over the goalkeeper, was greatness at any age.
I have a tough time seeing these two as anything but impact players on our national team in the future (assuming they don’t represent Austria and BiH instead). 😉
@Bobby V
http://is.gd/pU1mwO
@anonymous……I may be a dick, but I’m also correct on my comments most of the time.
Halilovic might be the best 16 year old in Europe right now, but, that doesn’t mean a thing. He might not get much better than he is now, so, this could be a waste of time, or even worse, unnecessary pressure on a kid whose father sees only dollar signs.
Anybody want to bet me that he won’t be the best as an 19 year old? – or even in the top 20 once he’s in his early twenties?
Seems to me people are already pulling back on comments made about Kovacic.
@Doctor Prlje-No,quite often,Ziva is just a dick.
He doesn’t deserve a call up and his old man would know the only reason for the call up is to tie him up to cro. He would never accept it. If such a thing took place and if I were advising the Halilovic family I would tell them to say no to a call up and explain now is not the time. Too many people are trying to interfere with his development and best thing at this time is not to accept a call up to the senior side.
This kid’s value won’t be altered by a call up to the repka. The top clubs know all about him. Playing for cro or even for BIH won’t increase his value.
Ziva himself is a Dalmatinac, so I guess he’s offering objective and constructive criticism.
@Ziva-What do you mean about all the Dalmo women,last time I was there they were pretty nicely behaved,it was your mom that all the guys were having a good time with.
Calling him up now, along with a couple other teens, wouldn’t be a bad move if it was for development purposes.
You can only play 18 players. Assuming there are injuries, you have around three more spots as cover. But those last 2-3 remaining spots after that “should” be designated for future development players (and not for 25 year old Brazilians).
Those advising him wouldn’t be against it if they are putting his club career first. Having his name on that list will attract even more positive attention for him. He can still develop at his own pace in Dinamo, but the added attention will result in a higher transfer price (and salary) down the road.
P.S. I heard Alen’s mom was from Dubrovnik. Not 100% sure though.
Most of our guys would avoid a Thompson concert. Narodnjake is more for them.
Calling him up now is the worst move that could be made. He and those advising him would not accept the call up.
I had no clue that him mama was a dalmatinka. That makes sense now, those dalmo women will spread their legs to any man. So typical. You can see all of them whoring around on the coast in the summer months.
@Ziva
Guys like Simunic, Seric, & Rakitic all got a lot of flak from their birth countries for choosing Croatia. Halilovic deserves no special treatment, and should receive some flak as well. It goes with the territory when switching allegiance from your birth country to the birth country of one of your parents.
I’ve always said that Halilovic has every right to represent BiH, but considering the talent Halilovic possesses, it is completely understandable that Cro football fans feel bitter over the loss of a likely future star that would’ve created a great tandem with Kovacic moving forward. This doesn’t make a person a jocksniffer.
Halilovic is just as much a Croat as he is a Bosanac (actually, his mom is a Dalmatinka and he’s born and raised in ZG, so you could argue him being moreso a Croat). So, saying that you “only want Hrvati on your team” doesn’t exclude Halilovic.
Sure, he may feel more “Bosnian” today, but we’re not looking at things from his point of view. He is probably hanging out with Emir Alispahic and Alispahic’s Bosnjak crew in Zagreb, and is being enamoured by that community since these are his first nightlife experiences. They’re probably taking him out to places like Sofka for cevapi and then drinks at the Green Gold club right after that.
I remember growing up in Toronto as a sixteen year old and ONLY going to Cro parties and hanging out with Croats. If I had to make a decision as to what I would choose to represent at that age, Canada would have been completely out of the question versus Croatia. But as you get older, and start hanging with others, your mentality can change.
Call him up to the repka, have our party boys like Corluka and Srna take him out to a Thompson concert, and that young little boy will suddenly feel more Croatian than anything, lol.
And the only thing worse than the fucking dumb-ass Mujos from Bosna that have decided to create a nation based on a religion and Turkish occupatory heritage (it is a fact that only the CROATS of BiH revere the kings and nobility of Bosna in the middle-ages — because they were Croats) are the idiotic AVNOJ Croats from present-day RH that seemingly can’t understand that there is NO Bosnian ethnicity or nationality. So we get to read idiotic posts and commentary about Kovac bros, Rakitic, Simunic and other Bosnian-Hercegovinian Croats not being Croats…
You fucking idiots. 🙂
Only want him on the national team if he considers himself a Croat. Not for talent, not for his own personal profit/convenience – just for his Croatian identity. If he doesn’t consider himself a Croat, let him fuck off to that frankenstein protectorate state that will not exist when the shackles of the New World Order come flying off….
Bosna is Croatian land. The Croatian tribe (someone mentioned tribes) founded Bosna. Also, Bosna’s borders were inflated by Turkish occupation. Bosna was a tiny vazal statelet (a second, smaller Croatian kingdom) to Croatia in the middle-ages.
Just because your grandfathers converted to Islam to secure land and title, doesn’t mean you get to create your own ethnicity after the Ottoman empire collapsed. Most smart, I say smart – there aren’t that many – muslims from Bosna know that their ancestors were Croats. Everyone else is living a lie and rooting for Turkey….
So if you ain’t Croatian, Halilovicu, fuck off to Sarajevo/Zenica and pretend that you represent a “real” nation. One that is held together at NATO gun-point….
Heck no. Homer glasses cloud judgement and objectivity. I got no issues with you saying that you would like to see him playing with Modric one day. We all would. But, nobody should be mad or angry if he goes to BiH. We all loved it when the other guys were in the same exact situation and selected Croatia over Germany, Australia, and Switzerland. Well, the shoe may be on the other foot now.
Does anyone know where I can get some Macedonia gear. I may need to wear it if the brazilain-born wanna-be hrvat gets in the game
Do we know for sure how much he feels about being “bosnian or jugoslavian”? He’s just as much as a hrvat as he bosnian. I’m in no way saying where he should or should not play, just saying I would love to see this kid on the same field with Modric and friends wearing checkers. What’s wrong with that? You need to turn the cynic dial down from 11 to maybe an 8 once in a while. Do you even own a pair of homer glasses? Clean them off and put them on once in a while. You’ll look good in them.
I see a lot of commenters are afraid Croatia will lose out on Halilovic, Croatian newspaper are more optimistic though:
http://plavipakao.com/2012/10/08/daily-notes-halilovic-news-and-sammirs-first-national-team-training/
I get pleasure when what I said is proven to be correct.
i think the kid is gone……he will not play for Cro. If he was going to play for Cro this would not be an issue and he would be making comments about how his dream is to play for Cro.
I dont blame the kid. He probably feels more “bosnian or jugoslav” than “hrvat”‘
No sense in wasting time or complaining about a 16-yr old kid and what he will do or not do. Anyone who accepted or had no issues with Raketa, Simunic, Seric and Kovac brothers should have no complaints if this mujo decides to play for BiH. It’s the same situation. The kid is a bosanac and would want to play for his father’s homeland. Nobody can bitch about that.
Man, sometimes I like to sniff Ziva’s jock, other times, I regret wasting my time reading his comments. Jock sniffer? Because I want to see this kid play on the repka? Give me a break, man. You say you need to take the emotion out of watching sports. Sometimes that is true, other times I think you need to put it in. Besides watching the repka lose when Sammir plays and schooling people online does ANYTHING give you actual pleasure?
we now…….fucken ipad…
to those of you complaining about Halilovic possibly playing for Bosna, shut up……we know have adult jock sniffers and jersey chaser worried over what a 16-yr old kid will do.
Were you complaining about Rakitic, Kovac brothers, Seric, Simunic and others selecting Cro over their birth countries. All of them developed their games thanks to the nations and clubs where they were born and raised and not in Croatia. Where was the bitching at that time…..there was none. And there should not be any here.
If he goes to BiH, who cares. I want hrvati on my team.
And calling him up now or in the next few months is the wrong move. If he were to be called up so we can force a decision, I would reject the call if I were his father or if I was advising his family. The kid is not ready for high level soccer now and only would be called up to be used as a pawn. His old man knows better and would not allow his kid to make a call on that.
It simple to prove the dumbass wrong. Listen how far do you want to go back to define a population. You can play that game all day long. You go with what it is today and thats how you don’t get into this whole mess. A croat calls himself a croat, serb calls himself a serb, bosnian calls himself a bosnian, and the jugoslav says were all the same.
No need to ignore Zorro, he actually brings up a good argument…that we may or may not agree with…but it’s his opinion.
My eyes hurt because of the one run on sentence, but go ahead and try to prove him wrong. This is the beauty of the internet boys.
Zorro is a serb!
Zorro=South_American
ante b is not that i dont know how to used periods and commas internet is not a school, and if you dont want to use them, i just dont use them cause i consider this an informal way to communicate with others , Croatia vs Antwerp you said that im a troll because of what that i tell that serbs,croats, bosnians and montenegrins are from the same race prove me im wrong, as far as i know you speak almost the same language, croatian can from the language serbo-croatian but , you use the latin alphabeth , the serbs and montenegrins use the cirilic alphabeth and the bosnians both dependes of the region .
ante b is not that i dont know how to used periods and commas internet is not a school, and if you dont want to use them, i just dont use them cause i consider this an informal way to communicate with others , Croatia vs Antwerp you said that im a troll because of what that i tell that serbs,croats, bosnians and montenegrins are from the same race prove me im wrong, as far as i know you speak almost the same language, croatian can from the language serbo-croatian but , you use the latin alphabeth , the serbs and montenegrins use the cirilic alphabeth and the bosnians both dependes of the region if is in the serbian republic in bosnia use the cirilic alphabeth , and id in the part of the bosnian-croat federation the latin alphabeth.
Stimac’s 11 Pletikosa Srna Carli Joe Strinic Sammir Modric Radosevic Perisic Mandzukic Jelavic.
39 years old and you don’t know how to use periods or commas. Toliko o tome
Croatia was the driving force behind Yugoslavia’s wealth. Instead of rewarding, taking care of or even recognizing this, even under the table as needed during Communist rule, the Serbs sucked it all in and appointed only their own people to high ranking positions in the government. Pretty stupid way to lose a sure thing, but, that’s how cocky they were.
Even the head of the Yugoslav navy was Serbian – an inland farmer.
Imagine working hard and being successful, only to see some high-ranking ass and his family from Belgrade come down and “buy” the most beautiful pieces of land on the coast – with money sent from Croatia.
To everyone: Zorro is a Troll. And is just looking to provoke us, rather than participating in a meaningful discussion.
Don’t feed him. Ignore his comments
bobby v sorry . but i got to tell you im 39 years old , im not young as you believe , i know what happen in the old yugoslavia, and i know yugoslavia was always dominated but the serbs but the one that brought suppression even of the non-serbs was a croat named jozip bros tito, he even supress their own ppl to keep a virtual country together called yugoslavia, like the english used supression against scots ,and welsh and northern irish to keep to gether that virtual country called UK, dont getme wrong and dont get offended but i consider croats,serbs,bosnian and montenegrins from the same race, but politically want to be different I RESPECT that. as i said Yugoslavia to me always was a SERBIAN team dominated with the help of some players from the other republics. but he majority always being serbians.
@Zorro – Croatians were always ignored when the Yugoslav national team was chosen. I remember watching them in the 1970’s and saying to myself – “Wow, I know at least 4-5 Croatians who are better than the Serbs we have on the field now”.
And then the first chance Croatia had to show the World how good we were was in 1998. Freed from having only one or two starters in the starting lineup and a few more on the bench, we fielded our own Croatian starting 11….and what happens? Third in the World – that’s what fucking happens.
Smarten up – you are probably too young to have lived through the suppression all non-Serbs were under during Tito’s years….or your Tata convienently forgot to mention it to you.
ok, but i want to ask you soemthing, why you discriminate, ppl from Bosnia even some are bosnian serb or bosnian croat or bosnian muslim ,whats wrong is a serb or a croat choose to play for bosnia regardless if they are good or not enough to play for serbia or croatia if you want me to say that there are bosnian serb , bosnian croats , what makes the right to your countrymen to treat the ones that choose to play for bosnia like a pice of shit cause they dont choose to play for you even they as etnic croatian from bosnia feel proud of their heritage but what do you know about their real life how do you know if they hide to other croatians that the feell proud of being bosnian too the could dont say it in public or to a friends o r even to their families how do you know if they are not afraid of being bashing by others croats from bosnia, can you certainly assureme with proof that they only feel croats and nor bosnian croats and at the end that putting asside the nationalities that form bosnia they dont feel just bosnian can you proof me that they dont feel that way how do you know they dont just cause they say thing to one side of their heritage doesnt mean you can write off their true feelings and is their busyness if they want to hide some of their feeling or make them public so i think if halilovic decide to play for bosnia is his choice not yours and if he decides to play for croatia is his choice too not yours this is with you colin o’haravic and i talk to you with respect cause you haven insulted me and i respect to whom respect me and i insult to whom insult me
@Zorro
I don’t have the wind to go all though this. However, I will say that there is a genetic difference between Croats and Serbs. Now you might say well there are Serbs In Croatia who became Croatian. Thats true to however, that does not give the Serbs rights to colonize Croatia which was their plan since the retreat of the Ottomans. Greater Serbia included the annex of Croatia into
the empire but the Croats said no. The Serbs and Croats need to find a peace as long as they can retain their own identity and countries. Bosna is a different story all together.
“american un like you your fucking utasa thats the diference between you and me”
You have failed yourself as an American. I can not even understand what type of cigo dialect you are speaking.
Croatians are Serbs? Croatians or “white croats” as the most supported theory by the international community suggests that white Croats were in the Balkans 50-200 years before the Serbs came to the Balkans.
“Bosnians” are just Croat,Serbs that follow Muslim faith.
Here is what Croatia looked like in year 900:
http://www.euratlas.net/history/europe/900/entity_1523.html
Bosnia was Croatian land, all of it.
Smarten the fuck up
Use punctuation. Then maybe I’ll read what you write.
elvis but youre not prooving im wrong what im saying cause you know in that test not only you are same as the serbian even farther bosnians are same too a race you try to say that doesnt exist just cause a country man of you said so i mean timmo so they dontt exist cause you think because another country call bosnia have a part of territory that the majority is bosnian croat and the rest bosnian muslim that give you the right to say is not such a thing as bosnian, a timmo im not a turkish im an american un like you your fucking utasa thats the diference between you and me
Here’s something we can all enjoy – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bgFWnZpqO4
Zorro Croats are a recorded historical tribe. Bosnians are mostly Croats/Serbs. Maybe 10% other. Thats a fact jack deal with it.
Zorro F U you Turkish Bitch.
plus is something to my favor i’ve read not so long that in a dna test serbians and you so call croats have the same dna which means you have the same generics the same race and are the same thing so i can say with proof that is not such a thing like croatian which means you are serbian too but you renegate that and call your self croats 🙂
timmo oh just cause you said so stupid rat hahahahahahahahahahah then is not such a thing as croatian as sinisa mihajlovic said it you are serbians that are catholics but wanna call yourself croatians fucking faggot who that hell you think you are to say is not such a thing like bosnians facucking piece of shit
@ZORRO
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A BOSNIAN.
ZORRO=VLACH
It’s not “stealing” if he was born, raised, trained, and developed in Croatia, and possesses the needed nationality to play.
well well seems that croats still like to steal soccer players from other countries even those players have double nationality ctoatian and bosnian like halilovic you dont even respect that he feels bosnian than croatian even he has that nationality too, well i understand now why you still cry like a baby about Serbians getting all records from the old Yugoslavia, but i must say Serbia always gonna be the right full SUccessor of Yugoslavia cause i always see Yugoslavia as a Serbian dominated country ,im gonna see always the litlle countribution that the the other republic gave to YUGOSLAVIA cause in all Yugoslavs and Serbia&Montenegro national team always Serbian plyers were majority you always were litle minority,But what you can expect from a country ofbuch of thief like croatia .
@IvicA
You’re welcome.
Thank you for the excellent comments. That quote is the primary reason I posted the links.
It could be posturing as I mentioned previously but maybe not?? If BiH calls Halilovic up than we are done because Alen and his father will have a perfect escape route plan as you have already mentioned.
“Stimac should definitely call up both Kovacic and Halilovic, citing that he is using the last couple spots on youth development….then just throw the both of them in injury time in one of the next two games.”
http://is.gd/lxu78u
What are the odds?
🙂
@Horvat
“Let’s hope Stimac does sometihing soon. Maybe even today.”
Yes please!
@Allen:
It seems Ronaldo and Casillas are the only consistent starters on that team. They have a deep squad and utilize the players accordingly.
Tottenham was the opposite. Modric played too many minutes there.
Hlilovic’s father’s quote sounds hopeful.
I was getting the impression his father was pushing him to play for BiH. This sound good.
Let’s hope Stimac does sometihing soon. Maybe even today.
Lets all agree. If Halilovic decides to play for Bosna, we won’t mention him again. He’ll be the H-word.
@ ante
We wouldn’t play a backline with Strinic and Pamic, when both are LB’s.
Plus guys like Sammir and Olic aren’t going to make the starting XI in 2014
@ Anonymous
Thanks for the links.
Interesting quote from Alen’s dad when asked who Alen would be representing (CRO or BiH):
“To je njegova stvar i ja se tu neću miješati. Supruga mi je iz Zagreba, ja sam rođen u BiH. Nikad mu ne bih sugerirao za koga da igra. Zaigrao sam za Hrvatsku, a kad se ukazala mogućnost, nastupao sam za BiH isključivo iz sportskih razloga. Tada su za Hrvatsku igrali Prosinečki, Boban i Asanović i mislio sam da ću više igrati za BiH. I igrao sam. Iako, možda sam pogriješio. Mogao sam s Hrvatskom na Euro 1996. u Englesku, Ćiro bi me vodio, možda bih napravio i bolju karijeru, ali ne žalim se.”
Dinamo’s Halilović hailed as Croatia’s next big thing
http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/association=cro/news/newsid=1874858.html
Tata Halilović za Max!: Nismo htjeli da Alen ode u Real ili Juventus
http://www.vecernji.hr/sport/vijesti/tata-halilovic-max-nismo-htjeli-da-alen-ode-real-ili-juventus-clanak-461886
Ivica A
I agree!
@Horvat
He most likely does have BiH citizenship, otherwise there would be no discussion of who he would represent in that interview.
BiH calling up Halilovic would be the WORST case scenario for Cro.
This way, Alen and his dad can say that they were never approached by the Cro reprezentacija, and that’s why they accepted the BiH callup. It’s probably the only way they can avoid a major anti-Halilovic uproar from the public, since they never outright declined a Croatian callup.
Stimac should definitely call up both Kovacic and Halilovic, citing that he is using the last couple spots on youth development….then just throw the both of them in injury time in one of the next two games.
Since Ilicevic and Olic are injured, Stimac should call up Kovacic and Halilovic.
Bosnia is going to call this guy up ASAP.
Does anyone know if this kid has a Bosnian citizenship?
Congrats to the people that wanted Modric so badly on a top tier club. This is what happens, riding the bench for biggest games. The winy baby got his bottle, now he can enjoy sitting on the bench with his bottle.
I really have no idea why I have Modric jersey. Fantastic player but never have I been attached to him, gives the vibe of a baby. Whateves.
Those Bosna fucks were also cheering for Spain in the Euro. Not even the Serbs cheer againist us that hard. I wish Bosna nothing but the worst and for the Croats there I hope we merge with them so that they can escape that dump.
Why would this kid pick Bosnia? Then I suppose he will go on to date and marry a Croatian girl. All of these Muslims with Croats wives like Zlaten’s father in Sweden. Why don’t they play for their mothers side for once? If this kid looks like the real deal we need to hit him hard. Skrew his Mustafa father. Now if the kid was choosing between us and say Germany, or Italy I could live with it. But Bosna?? Those assholes were jumping and laughing at us when the Travesty in 2008 hit.
The only way this kid plays for Bosna is if his father is an Islamic Tool. For all purposes the kid is pretty much Croatian. He looks Croatian doesn’t he? There’s also a pic of him in our colors and he looks like a natural.
ahahha dom, my fb friend LOL! 😉 answer my comment 😉
Well, here’s a very interesting media story on Alen Halilovic, released only a few days ago. I was as shocked as anyone else when I saw it, this should be good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iwa6nUM3KYo
He says he can’t wait to play for the ‘reprezentacija’, and he is dying to show ‘whatever manager’ that he has the quality to play in ‘that team’ (those are his literal words he used). From that, it sounds like he’s beating around the bush as well, he doesn’t reveal which team he’s referring to of Croatia or BiH, but the narrator/reporter of the story did exclusively say that he meant Croatia, “to play with Modric in the rest in the national squad”. This might just be a clear tactic or a misunderstanding, or maybe just classic journalism twisting the facts, but who knows, maybe he did say Croatia! Besides all the speculation surrounding what his father said (there are no sources of such), I’ve never heard him directly say anything about favoring BiH.
@Anonymous
“What kind of reply is “Abercrombie and Fitch?” to what I said? My God Croatians are stupid. I suppose that’s an “educated” reply? Does Abercrombie and Fitch sell those black dresses they you make wear on graduation day? Is that what you were trying to say? I feel like I’m talking to the mentally handicapped on this site.”
The Dewey Decimal System?
@IvicA
“Emir Alispahic is just recruiting for BiH.
If Halilovic was full Croat, Alispahic wouldn’t even talk to the kid.”
That’s for sure! He has an agenda.
I don’t see the kid signing with us my friend. I know I sound like a broken record/CD, but I just do not see it. His Tata has him well prepped for interviews and each of them know the plan and the strategy. You are one hundred per cent correct on the talent assessment and on the tough pill to swallow department and you’re right in the fact that we have to at least make the effort to try and make this happen.
I will start attending church more regularly.
🙂
Side note:
The mother angle does not work. In my opinion she does not have much say in the matter and is kept in line with Tata wielding the power. At the same time if she is able to convince her son to come our way please do!
@ Everyone With this halilovic thing do you why he said that to cause tension between Bih savez and Mamic aka HNS, this generation of bosnia has nice players and he is just thinking in the end he will choose croatia end of story.
Alen is going to do what his father tells him, his dad taught him to play and will help him make his decisions. Lets hope he plays for us though.
Nice Modric on bench 2 straight i think he is in form by now no lack of games bs.
@ Lika Joey i believe so thats what you get with Mourinho.
Croatian will never be greater than > a german spaniard Brazilian simple Kherdiera Alanso Kaka and the Essien Enjoy the bench Luka and playing against small teams like Celta Viga Deportivo etc
@Anonymous
Emir Alispahic is just recruiting for BiH.
If Halilovic was full Croat, Alispahic wouldn’t even talk to the kid.
I will be extremely bitter when this kid puts on a BiH jersey. He has every right to do so, just like all the diaspora Croats had when they put on our jersey…but this kid is going to be a bigger talent than any of those diaspora Croats put together. It’ll be hard to see a Modric-caliber talent going to another team.
Alen’s father prepared him well for his interviews and they’re definitely being careful in strategizing how to switch allegiances with minimal fallout from the media and public.
If Stimac cares about securing this talent, he will call him up soon and put Alen and his father on the spot. If they want to switch countries, then they should go through the same negative public fallout that guys like Rakitic and Simunic did when they switched for us.
Who knows…maybe the pressure of turning down a callup so early in his career, along with a Croatian mother in his ear about avoiding all the unnecessary trouble, will be enough to shut his father up about Alen representing BiH. The Swiss did it with Drmic. Maybe this would work for us as well.
What kind of reply is “Abercrombie and Fitch?” to what I said? My God Croatians are stupid. I suppose that’s an “educated” reply? Does Abercrombie and Fitch sell those black dresses they you make wear on graduation day? Is that what you were trying to say? I feel like I’m talking to the mentally handicapped on this site.
Anonymous I agree! Looks like Modric found a nice paying bench job…
Luka should have gone to PSG – Mourinho sucks. Must have not seen Luka dominate against Spain in the EC.
@Croatia vs Antwerp
“But I agree, the main point is he called him “moj bosanac.” I just hopes he picks Croatia.”
I hope he does as well!
Did you see who one of the the first to congratulate Halilovic after he scored? You got it!
@ Anonymous
You’re case is different, those were your cousins and family members you were hanging out with. And Halilovic can meet nice Croatian girls through Kolo, he doesn’t need Alisphaic for that.
But I agree, the main point is he called him “moj bosanac.” I just hopes he picks Croatia.
@Anonymous
“how much did they charge you for that Precious “university degree”? Did you get it framed? What percentage of what they told you to memorized in college could you have memorized from buying $10 books and an internet account? Did you know that countless illiterates have have gotten “university degrees”? At least most of these people didn’t pay for it, the tax payers did.”
Abercrombie and Fitch?
@Anonymous, how much did they charge you for that Precious “university degree”? Did you get it framed? What percentage of what they told you to memorized in college could you have memorized from buying $10 books and an internet account? Did you know that countless illiterates have have gotten “university degrees”? At least most of these people didn’t pay for it, the tax payers did.
@Colin O’Haravić
“Stimac, call him up.”
Exactly!
Colin O’Haravić je kralj!
Ok, whoever said they won’t be bitter if Halilovic doesn’t play for the repka needs to watch him more. I agreed at first, but watching him play 5 minutes with Dinamo today and then scoring a great goal made me change my mind. This kid is for real. Fast as hell, cool and calm, and just chipped the keeper to score his first goal after playing a collective 7 minutes between two games. Can’t wait to see him play more. Legit as shit. Stimac, call him up.
Halilovic with a goal!!!!
@Croatia vs Antwerp
That is not really the point but since it keeps coming up. Why is it creepy?
At that age I used to hang out with my cousins who were the same age difference which led to clubs, partying, and women and I managed to find the time to get a university degree out of the deal shortly thereafter. They were watching out for me and if anything it made me grow up faster and wiser and I was more mature as a result.
The point is the “moj bosanac” comment which speaks quite loudly as well as the other comments that Halilovic used in the interview.
@croatia vs antwerp
why would picking croatia over bih be the sane decision?
http://www.thefirstrow.eu/watch/145545/1/watch-fc-barcelona-vs-real-madrid.html
Any link for Barcelona-Real Madrid?
@ Anonymous
I agree with IvicA, what the hell is a 24 year old dude hanging out with a 16 year old–it’s creepy. Halilovic is better off getting involved in Croatian Kolo and reading books on King Kresimir at his age.
Anyway, I hope he makes a sane decision and chooses Croatia.
jm said “@ anonymous i was saying croatia needs to maximize the croatian talent pool of people with croatian lineage. croatia is already at huge disadvantages due to a smaller population and the fewer resources that go with a smaller, less productive economy. to let quality players get away who are croatian would only make the task that much tougher”
What is “Croatian lineage”? Sounds like ethnic purity to me. Since “Croatians” will continue to leave for more affluent countries and those kids will play for those countries, why not bring in cheaper populations like from Brazil, Mexico and Africa and have these kids play for Croatia? Surely, many of these kids will have the PASSION to be part of the Croatian National. You can’t say race is just skin color while at the same time put such emphasis on “Croatian blood”, that’s retarded AND still racist. You sound like a white supremacist who thinks there’s something special about “white blood” that’s worth preserving, except you’ve narrowed it down to “Croatian blood”. Why would you be against having more Brazilian, or African, or Mexican, or Chinese born Hrvats and their offspring on Croatia’s National team?
@Croatia vs Antwerp
He says this in the interview as well.
“ipak se druzim s alispahicem, jer je on moj bosanac”
If it was as easy as you say than why did he not just come out and say that he would like to play for Hrvatska? If I was born and raised in the country and asked where I was going to dedicate my national team service would it not make sense that I should say Hrvatska? But for some reason Halilvoc did not say that. This could be posturing or it could be because he knows the decision already?
Our fathers have massive influence on our decisions in life. The choices that I make in my life and my thinking patterns are greatly reflected and geared towards what moj otac taught me in life. I am not saying this applies to everyone but I know that most Croatian males would probably say the same thing. Generally speaking of course.
My friend, as I said previously we can speculate on this subject matter all day long and I hope you’re right and I hope that he decides to play with us. What I am saying, in more specific terms, is that if I had to place a wager on it right now I would put my money on him playing with BiH as I believe that he is leaning towards playing with them but I hope that I am wrong.
croatia world cup 2014 line up
pletikosa
lorven strinic pamic srna
modric kranjcar sammir
olic eduardo mandzukic
@ Anonymous
I can’t imagine why Halilovic would want to play for BiH. He was born and raised in Croatia, his mom is Croatian, and his home is there.
It would be ridiculous for the kid to pick Bosnia just because his Tata tells him too. What has Bosnia given him? The kid should choose Croatia, because he is a Croatian.
@AZ
The HSV fans love him and he has been solid since his arrival!
MIlan Badelj….man of the match last night
@Dukić
“but why is he playing for cro youth teams if he wants to play for BiH.
– Born and lives in Croatia
– Better youth system than BiH
– Convenience?
– Better/more high end exposure to the big clubs playing in the Cro youth system
http://is.gd/JgQcAV
“obviously some politics going on.”
Absolutely!
If he wanted to play for us he would have said so. Unless…… and this is grasping at straws once again.
Unless his answer was given in order to not offend the BiH and his father and when the time comes he picks Hrvatska?? In the back of his mind I believe Halilovic has already made a decision.
It is early in this game and we can speculate on this topic all day long but at the end of the day I don’t believe when the time comes that he will choose us. But I really hope that he does or that we can do something to make him see the light so to speak.
@IvicA @T.O.Cro
We have to strike while the iron’s hot.
@ Dukic,
In the interview he said he was asked by Croatia, maybe he wasn’t recruited by BiH? Convenience?
Or just as Anonymous pointed out with Raketa, perhaps he was an unknown commodity to BiH at the time???
@IvicA,
Good thinking. Croatia has to be on top of things. Apparently, same could apply with Hrgota at B.Mochengldback/Sweden. They say he’s quite the talented striker…
but why is he playing for cro youth teams if he wants to play for BiH. obviously some politics going on.
@IvicA
The writing is on the wall.
“I wanted to play for the BiH junior team.”
Grasping at straws theory.
When he states that he initially wanted to play for the BiH junior team he could have meant he felt that way initially, as in prior to playing at any junior level but considering where he was born and raised I still think that statement is a huge win for his BiH consideration.
“I will make the decision when the time comes.”
The second quote is a duplicate of what Rakitic was telling the Swiss sports media when asked if he would represent the Swiss or Hrvatska. If Halilovic wanted to play for us he would have stated so.
Translated = Halilovic will play for BiH and his father will get him there.
However, I agree wholeheartedly with you and will join you in your belief/crusade of giving this a good try in order to maybe change/influence the decision. Call him up soon! That way we will know the answer for sure.
Awesome video!
http://is.gd/YbnHXU
Yea. Once Drmic gave that interview, the Swiss wisely put him on the spot and called him up for their next qualifiers. Drmic probably didn’t want the negative flak that would come with turning down a callup.
Croatia should do the same with Halilovic. Worst case is he turns us down, but at least we tried. Alen plays in Zagreb, and his entire family lives there. Alen might just end up receiving the callup, rather than being public enemy number one in his own hometown.
If I’m Stimac, I’d call up both Kovacic, Halilovic, and maybe some other youngster. Message it to the media as some sort of initiative where he’d like to develop young upcoming talent using the last 2-3 spots on the team (when in reality, it’s just a ploy to cap young talents).
Halilovic said in the interview that he wanted to play for BiH juniors. It seems pretty obvious that he wants to play for BiH, which would be a shame ‘coz he’s quite the talent. That said, Drmic made it known he wanted to play for HRV, but ended up being capped by the Swiss…
I hate the way the HNS is run but Idemo nasi next week Everyone in good for expect a very tough game in Skople and a win in Osijek My team Pletikosa Srna Joe Carli Strinic Rakitic Modric Badelj Perisic Mandzo Jelavic Subs Eduardo Vukojevic Kalinic Scifo Vida.
Armada made me laugh today. +1
@ Elvis
Edin Dzeko seems to be a big Croatia fan 🙂
You know what this is what happens when countries are at war and people migrate aground the world look at Swiss team they have like 6 Albanians from kosovo on team and if kosovo get recognized they all leave swiss for their muslim allah garbage, also rakitic and petric choose croatia over swiss, just examples and croatian and bosnian citizenship is easy to get one or the other usually all you need is an id card osobnda izkaznica to enter bosnia anyway. Heres alist http://hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategorija:Hrvatski_nogometa%C5%A1i_iz_BiH
SOME OF YOU ARE WAY TO TOLERATE TOWARDS BOSNA. IF THE KID WANTS TO BE A TURK LOVER HE CAN GO TO THE TURKISH SYSTEM AND GET OUT OF MY COUNTRY. REMEMBER WHO THEY CHEERED FOR IN EURO 2008. REMEMBER THEM FOR THE SHIT THAT THEY ARE. JUST LIKE ZLATEN THEY ARE TAUGHT BY THEIR MUSLIM FATHERS TO HATE CROATIA.
@ anonymous i was saying croatia needs to maximize the croatian talent pool of people with croatian lineage. croatia is already at huge disadvantages due to a smaller population and the fewer resources that go with a smaller, less productive economy. to let quality players get away who are croatian would only make the task that much tougher
Forgot to mention:
4 way tie (all at 18 points) now for 3rd place and those teams are only one point back of Slaven (19 points)
and my bathroom just flooded
that is all
2-1 Rijeka over Istra at Kantrida
was all Rijeka, especially in the 2nd half – Datkovic with a winner off a header in the 90th minute
I feel like Kantrida has one of the best atmospheres for games this year in the HNL, not to mention, games vs. Dinamo, Istra and Hajduk are sellouts, or real close to sellouts, which is nice to see.
for people who never got into the HNL, this year has been fun to watch so far and the table is tighter than in previous years.
http://www.sportska-tv.com/
The above site is a good site to catch most HNL streams – not the best quality, but it does the job. Attach the laptop to the flat screen, run the stream, plop on the couch, call Ziva’s mom send me over some of those killer sarme – what more could you ask for haha
Anyway, why would you think I was Haet when Haet always says things that are irrelevant to Croatia and Croatian soccer? It seems like a no-brainer to me, Croatia is already at a huge disadvantage because of its tiny population that’s getting even smaller, why would anybody be against having more Eduardos on the team?
What are you talking about? Maybe you have your I.P. addresses mixed up? I said the exact opposite of what Haet believes.
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@jm, why don’t more Croatian clubs recruit players from Brazil, Mexico, Africa, and other poor countries where you know they’ll jump at the chance to live and play in Croatia, and then make them citizens so they can eventually play for the National team just like Eduardo? As long as they have the PASSION to play for Croatia like Eduardo, what difference does it make where Our players are from or what skin color they are? After all, big countries like France, Germany and England have all increased their talent pool with non-European immigration, so why wouldn’t a tiny country like Croatia do the same?
not a good thing if croatia keeps losing talented youngsters that could play for it to other sides. the drmic example comes to mind recently. i suggest the hns pull a switzerland. after they sell sammir, they drop sammir in the next friendly and use the spot on halilovic. play him 2 minutes. and all debates are done with. would you actually reject a call up to the national side? i would think bosnia would have a similar strategy. potentially first to act wins
@Mr. Black
Yes, you’re absolutely right that if a player wants some serious exposure to top European clubs, he should choose Croatia over BiH. Croatia has made a name for itself in football, with scouts from major European teams regularly attending HNL games to snag themselves the next Croatian talent. And it’s not limited to Dinamo and Hajduk only. You’ve got teams like Udinese buying players from Slaven Belupo, and Juve buying youngsters from Rijeka, etc. I remember reading an Italian article last year saying how Croatian players are becoming too expensive for Serie A clubs (due to the rise in interest from English clubs) and they’ve resorted to looking in Slovenia for cheaper prospects instead.
BUT…
I don’t agree with Bosna being some second rate team well below Croatia. Yes, they are not as good as us, but they are definitely a tournament-caliber team on the rise. They were screwed out of top spot in their Euro2008 qualifying group during that last game in France (with that phantom penalty), and were unfortunately drawn with Portugal in the playoff. IMO, they should have qualified. No doubt Alen and his father were watching Bosna’s qualifying campaign and became big fans of their run. Heck, I even became a fan. Couple this with BiH’s solid start to this WC2014 campaign (in a very winnable group with Greece and Slovakia as the top teams), along with Euro2016 being expanded to 24 teams, and I don’t think Alen and his father will feel that playing for BiH means sacrificing tournament play from Alen’s career.
Alen is already getting the benefits from being born and raised in Croatia anyway, with teams like ManU already scouting him. He gets his cake and eats it too by playing for Dinamo and holding that “Croatian prospect” tag that gives him a lot of value to the top Euro scouts, while being able to represent BiH in the future.
This is why I think it’s almost a guarantee that he picks BiH over Cro. The best thing that can happen for Cro is that BiH royally chokes in this qualifying campaign and misses out on Brazil 2014, with Croatia qualifying. This would probably sway his decision, and a callup to the national team would be too good to turn down (assuming Bosna hasn’t called him up before then).
jelavic scores in 2-2 tie with wigan. back on form. good to see
I think Halilovic(father and son) will play it smart. They will wait a while to see what kind of lever he will reach. Will he end up to be a player of the level Badelj, he will choose for Bosnia because then he will play much more often in the Bosnian team than in the Croatian team. If Halilovic becomes the new Luka Modric, he will play for Croatia because then he will play more major tournaments.
i know it doesnt matter but he played for cros youth teams. and i have a feeling mamic will make this kid play for croatia.
Jarac made a really good point. Losing Halilovic is almost a disaster, but Croatia has never been the team that relies solely around a players talent and ability. Leave that to the Spanish, although they win tournaments they play with absolutely no heart or pride, I’l take the Vatreni over them anyday. This is one of the reasons people don’t want Sammir in the repka, not coz he’s black or crap at Dinamo, but because he shows absolutely no desire or heart to play for us. This will kill our repka before a lack of skill does. Skill we have, we can develop, but passion is something different. Halilovic won’t get anywhere with Bosna anyway, he’l be stuck coming 3rd or scraping an unsuccessful play-off spot with BiH as usual anyway, he’l ultimately regret it. Stimac should just rock the boat and see what a call up does, would be really interesting, can’t imagine it’d hurt Mamic either.
I think Halilovic is similar to Srna’s situation. Srna was born in Croatia to a Muslim/Bosnian father and a Croatian mother just like Alen, but the difference is that for one reason or another Srna not only chose to play for Croatia, but with pride. Nobody on the field since the Kovac bros play with more passion and vatreno srce than him, that’s why he’s our captain.
hey if he identifies himself as more bosnia cause his father is, well then let the guy go, i don’t want him on the team if he doesnt want to be there
Halilovic’s mom is Croatian. He’s born and raised in Cro, and was developed in our system. It’s going to piss people off regardless, especially since he is probably one of Europe’s biggest talents.
Yes, we’ve poached BiH players before, but those were full Croats who were raised in Cro and were developed in Cro’s system (Lovren, Corluka).
Halilovic’s dad is closely knit within the Bosnjak Zagreb community and his 16-year old son hanging out with 24-year old Bosnian international Mehmed Alispahic is a tad suspicious (what 24-year olds hang out with 16-year old kids anyway?).
I think Halilovic would play for Cro, but his father is in his ear. We’ve probably already lost him to BiH. If I’m Stimac, I’d be a dick and call him up for the next round of games. Put him on the spot and make him decide now, so they have no time for damage control later.
i hope Kaka and Ozil dont start over Luka on sunday.Kaka looked great against ajax.
those are croatian blood players, halilovic’s dad is bosnian what is his mom? so makes sense if he wants to pick bosnia
I just an interview with Halilovic on Index and he was asked the question of which national team he will select when its time. He basically avoided the question and said he would make the decision when the time comes. I already mentioned the comments his father made a few years that his kid would play for BiH. I know the BiH media has been all over this story for the last few weeks and they think he will end up playing for BiH.
Honestly, I cant really blame the kid or be mad if he does select BiH. Hrvatska has poached players away from Australia, Germany and Swiss…..We are in no positition to bitch if we get poached in the same manner.
Bog,Hrvati,i Hajduk !!!