The European football season has returned! Use this post throughout the weekend to comment on all football happenings around the continent. Croatians Around Europe will begin its fifth season here on CroatianSports.com when the German Bundesliga kicks off on August 24th.
Headlines
- Mladen Petrić bags two goals in his Premiership debut as Fulham crush Norwich City 5-0
- Ivica Olić starts the season with a hat trick as Wolfsburg demolish FC Schonberg 95 in the first round of the German Cup (DFB Pokal)
- Ivan Perišić scores in Dortmund’s 3-0 win over Oberneuland in the DFB Pokal
- Ivan Rakitić assists in Sevilla’s 2-1 victory over Getafe
- Dario Krešić, Vedran Ćorluka help post shutout in Lokomotiv Moscow’s 2-0 win over Volga Nyzhnyi to help Slaven Bilić start the season with 10 points from first five games
- Nikica Jelavić and Everton open up season vs. Manchester United on Monday
- Danijel Pranjić to make Portuguese debut with Sporting Lisbon on sunday
Videos
Perišić finishes from a tight angle
Rakitić involved in both Sevilla goals
@ELVIS
agreed. Ur dead on about splicanke!
Can we all just agree that we are Croatian Nationalists who would prefer to keep Croatians ethnic make up as it is currently constructed and a return of our Historical lands in Bosnia. We favor policies that will increase our own birth rates and shun the importing of foreign labor and the girls in Split are the best looking by far.
@Denis, are kidding me by comparing fighting white genocide with worrying about soccer?
Also, how many times to I have to make this point b4 it sinks in to your thick Croatian skull?: the reason Croatia exists today is b/c certain Croatians had the moral courage to speak out for our people and didn’t listen to people like you who said “they were just ‘complaining”.
My race becoming an ever decreasing percentage of the world’s population, becoming minorities every where we exist (and worse) can not be good for my race – how much simpler of explanation do you need? It’s no “conspiracy” that the policies of pouring hundreds of millions of third worlders into EVERY and ONLY white countries and forcing integration/”assimilation” is the cause of said genocide. 2 + 2 = 4, you see? Imagine if every Croat had said “I don’t care” – you think the Croatian nation would even exist, let alone have an Independent State?
My people being called “raaaciss” and told how horrible we’ve been to the world every day of our lives for the past 60 years is okay; now you see me saying anti-racist is a code word for anti-white, and you accuse me of being a “broken record”???
@Poglavnik, so what? the Indians would kill me if I said white children have a right to have what all non-white children have (their own countries and communities)? the Indians would kill me for speaking on the behalf of my race?
You have probably heard of the Mohawk Indian Nation? they wiped out another Indian Nation/people called the Hurons – the Mohawks scalped them alive, then “baptized” their scalped heads with boiling water, then “adorned” them with fire branded “necklaces”.
The white man has never committed a sin other races have not committed. It is the good things he has done that are unique.
@HAET
I live in East Vancouver.
All of British Columbia is First Nations land and it’s pretty obvious if you live here.
Jarac: “Once again, Elvis dont worry about Bosna, if they become a large terrorist harboring nation, the US will bomb the shit out of em.”
Yea right, keep counting on Big Daddy Police for your security; and next they’ll be bombing Croatia b/c of “harboring” racistnaziustase! NATO/the establishment will not last much longer.
Poglavnik: “You wouldnt last 2 minutes spewing your BS in my neighborhood!”
A white man saying white children have a right to have what all non-white children have (there own countries and communities) would get me killed in “your neighborhood”??? Do you live in a psychiatric ward?
@ Ziva.
Not aware but working for the choosen it would not surprise me.
@Elvis………interesting article you posted. Curious if you know anything about the author. Bardos is a hard core cetnik apologist.
@Ziva Istina
“Seeing the Brazilian-born hvrat back in the EPL would be great. Think about it for a second, we could then see his other ankle explose thanks to a typical English goon.”
Exactly and no thank you!
Colin O’Haravić for President!
@ Elvis
Once again, Elvis dont worry about Bosna, if they become a large terrorist harboring nation, the US will bomb the shit out of em.
http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-EdContributors/Article.aspx?id=281948
@Anonymous
http://www.hercegbosna.org
From what I have read in the public and in their own sources the Croats in Bosnia want to merge with Croatia Proper.
There are cells of Islamic insurgents in Bosnia and their influence is growing. The RS has held out for such a long time. They are a very very stubborn people. Bosnia is dysfunctional and only survives because the international community holds it up. We need to be ready to act when the shit hits the fan and we need to make sure our future footballers there are protected. I fear the E.U. will neuter us.
@Denis Svirčić
What should we expect? This is the climate that the Republician party has created in this country.
Seeing the Brazilian-born hvrat back in the EPL would be great. Think about it for a second, we could then see his other ankle explose thanks to a typical English goon.
@jarac…….u right. Can’t help myslef. I love the social engagement. Damn Ipad is to blame. Just to easy to use and take with you everywhere.
Maro,
I dont buy any of those rumors. Croatian media makes up so many rumors. It would be nice though to see both of them in the EPL.
Also, Sunderland is showing interest in Ivan Strinic. Nice to see rumors of EPL teams showing interest in Croatian players.
Just read this: Fulham are lining up a £7m bid for Shakhtar Donetsk’s former Arsenal striker Eduardo as a replacement for Clint Dempsey, who wants to leave.
It would be nice to see Eduardo back in EPL.
Ziva,
Get a job already man, time to move out of the basement! Ur on here too much.
you know what I am concerned about??????
if my mom will get off her ass and bring me some food down here in my fortified basement. You can’t type when you are hungry.
Do you guys see how everyone has their own concerns. Some are concerned about “anti-white” some are concerned about “terrorists in bosna”, some are concerned that Dinamo will never be Hajduk, some are concerned that CS.com is turning into hajduksoccerreport.com, some are concerned that “croatia will be a part of the EU”, etc etc.
Take a chill pill guys, the world is not that bad of a place. Croatia is independent and people are still concerned. The fact of the matter is that nothing is perfect. People are so different and all of us cant be satisfied.
I dont have time to worry about any of that stuff and I’m not one to complain. Croatians are notorious for complaining. Lets look on the bright side. How many medals did Croatia get in London? How many countries in the world can say that they have water like Croatia? For those of you looking to invest long term, invest into croatian water. There will be a water war in the next 20-30 years. I dont even want to mention the fresh organic food and gorgeous women all over Croatia. Still not enough for us Croatians.
@ elvis or whoever
I tend to ignore most of the political speak but I found the talks on bosnia interesting. Did some internet searching and did find several things regarding a potential failed state :
http://www.balkans.com/open-news.php?uniquenumber=154022
With continued ethnic division in the country and Europe in for a decade of econoimc pain which often results in war (think WWII germany great depression, think the recession that hit the balkans/world in the early 90’s), I do wonder if there is the potential for another conflict. I go to Croatia pretty much every year, but I prefer to keep myself on the beautiful coastline. For those of you who do venture inland toward the Croat parts of Bosna, I’m curious for some inside info. Do people actually rumble there about another potential conflict? Is there desire for them to break off and join Croatia as unfeasable as that would (or unallowed by NATO etc)?
@Elvis
Are you really concerned about Bosna, haha they won’t do shit to Croatia and if they did, well lets just say history does repeat itself.
I would love to hear what all the First Nations in my neighborhood would have to say about some of these comments. Particularily here in British Columbia.
@Ziva LOL
@HAET
Currently, the Bosnian security minister estimates there are 3,000 potential terrorists in Bosnia alone. Hundreds of others can be found in Kosovo, Macedonia and the Sandzak. This is probably an understatement. You need to focus on your country Croatia. The riots in France are their own problem. These people just put communists back in power for Gods sake. They are shit. We need to focus on real threat which is the Muja’s right next to us. Bosnian is failing and when the time is right these Muslims will make their move. What will some of you say when terriost bombs go off in Split and Dubrovnik ruining the tourist season. Some of you might not like this but we need to come to an understanding with the Serbs. No fucking way do the both of us allow an Islamist uprising to occur on our border. Wake up!
That’s tough guy talk right there…love it.
In my neighborhood none of you would last 2 minutes as well. First, the security guard would stop you from entering the compound and even if we did get by, my mom would block the entrance to my fortified basement.
@HAET
“Don’t say anything on the internet that you wouldn’t say to my face, tough guys.”
You wouldnt last 2 minutes spewing your BS in my neighborhood!
I’m disappointed. I was like his 3rd follower and he tweeted i think twice and I think it was about the color of a car…
Jelavic wasn’t bad today, but he was quiet. he had a few chances, like when he tried to chip the keep and boinked the post. He’s going to do well this year, as well as the whole everton team.
@Ziva:
You are trying too hard to get Twitter followers.
@ Denis
Jelavic did not provide anything significant to the offense of Everton in the first half. He managed to force two corners. He was pulled down after Everton’s first corner by Valencia, but the referee did not call the penalty. He was a bit heavy with possession, and I believe he slipped at one point after continuous pressure (not sure if it was raining before).
How great it is to watch MANU at the bottom of the table after week one.
I didnt get a chance to watch the first half, how did Jelavic play? Nikica was super excited to beat MANU.
Ok, you guys all make some good points. Bottom line is, no one is “forced” to assimilate. Why are nonwhites moving to white countries? Because of a better life. “Africans for Africans” Are you serious? I feel bad for all of my friends that are waiting for their visas to be approved to move and live in Africa. It doesnt happen.
Like Zach said, people have a choice. That girl that married Eduardo had a choice. She was ok with having Brazilian children.
@Jarac,
Yes, I got sucked in a little too. A good argument is good for the soul. Anyways, enough of this “anti-white” topic.
Fellaini is a beast. Jelavic was a punching bag for most of the game; he did force and clear several corners.
I was smiling when ManU lost, boy oh boy.
Anytime Man Utd loses, its a great day. Fellani is going to be a handful though when Croatia plays Belgium. Vukojevic better be ready to run around that game.
Lol
DaSilva, Sammir, Luis Ibanez
How long before we see these three start on the NT?
@Jelic
Agreed! They sound eerily similar to the Sikh shooter.
Everton looked great in the first half. Pretty quiet from Jelavic
Isn’t there some neo-nazi website you idiots can visit to get some like-minded approval? Go away already.
Everton v Man U tied 0-0 at halftime. Apparently Everton unlucky to not be leading…..come on Nikica!
@Zach, is an albino negro the same race as our Misura??? “It’s just skin color” – LOL! Deer God bro, lay off the political correctness Kool-aid. White children deserve the right to have what non-whites have – THEIR OWN COUNTRIES AND COMMUNITIES!
@Black Zodiac, those names you list have EVERYTHING to do with the points you anti-whites make, get it?
I love how anti-whites JUSTIFY genocide (OF THEIR OWN RACE TO BOOT!) with “freedom of association”, when the fact is that it is whites who have been denied “freedom of association”.
@Zach, exactly whites immigrating to other white countries doesn’t result in white children becoming an ever decreasing percentage of the world’s population with no end in site, get it?
Again: AFRICA FOR THE AFRICANS, ASIA FOR THE ASIANS, WHITE COUNTRIES FOR EVERYBODY?
@Jelic
Lets just say that I was sporting a number one crop long before HAET. Trust me I have done enough.
@Zach
The issue always seems to be around black people and Muslims. The muslims have behaved very badly in Western Europe. Look up the rape stories concerning them raping western women. Also blacks will always drag down an area.
…..and what exactly is your resistance Elvis? Posting drivel on a Croatian Sports website? Courageous.
@Haet
See its just like in the book camp of the saints. No resistance from them.
But the people in the white countries are not required to associate with the “other” races. Also, why is skin color what matters? It’s ok for Norwegian people to move to France but not Moroccans?
@HAET
“It’s very telling how you anti-whites have to resort to name calling over the internet,”
Pavlovs dog, Mommy professor, anti-white, race traitor, multiCultist, etc.. You are quite the hypocrite now aren’t you?
“Your name calling says NOTHING about the points I make”
What points? I’ve had a schizophrenia attack before myself.
“we are not pure Slavic, we have Germanic as well as Latin (Roman) blood as well”
Top three Genetic make up:
Illyrian, Slav & Celtic are the top three make up’s of Croatian genetic make up, get your facts else ware. Why do you always link us with zee Germans, must be a storm front thing.
@Zach, it’s only white people who are forced to live and congregate with foreign races in own countries. You sick anti-white multiCULTists are forcing your will, your genocide us. Only white children are becoming an ever decreasing % of the world’s populace with no end in site, why is that??? Duhh, hundreds of millions of third worlders into EVERY and ONLY white countries, plus forced integration (they forced white kids AT GUNPOINT into black schools in the 60’s!). Why are ‘Whites only signs’ outlawed? Why can’t we have Whites only towns, schools and businesses??? Is that what you call “freedom of association”???
@Zach
I don’t think they want to impose. They want the right to live in their own ways removed from say a multiracial one. They want that freedom but it is denied to them.
@Zach, I already addressed the “freedom of association” question, remember?
Go pour hundreds of millions of Chinese into Black countries, force integration and “assimilation”, incessantly promote miscegenation and ban any sane black man who protests this obvious program of genocide against the black race, and then go tell the sane black man, “stop complaining, what’s wrong with a free society where anyone can marry who they want”.
What don’t you get about AFRICA FOR THE AFRICANS, ASIA FOR THE ASIANS, WHITE COUNTRIES FOR EVERYBODY? It’s genocide. Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.
@HAET
Thats right be an immortal.
@Elvis
Sure they do, but they can’t impose their will on others
“Define white”, it’s the people and the ONLY people who forced to accept “diversity” EVERYWHERE and ANYWHERE they live and congregate on this planet. A White country are those countries that are forced to accept millions of third worlders and “assimilate” with them, you know them very well.
It’s very telling how you anti-whites have to resort to name calling over the internet, LOL! Your name calling says NOTHING about the points I make, but it tells us EVERYTHING about YOU.
Also, if you know anything about Croatian history, we are not pure Slavic, we have Germanic as well as Latin (Roman) blood as well. We did not grow out of ground in Croatia. The common denominator is we’re all white. It’s simple, take a look in the mirror, look at your family, are you and your family negros? Are you and your family Oriental? Why do you justify a world with less and less people that look like you and your family and the horrible things that come with that? Are you psychotic?
Have a nice day traitors. Don’t say anything on the internet you wouldn’t say to my face tough guys.
@Zach
Some people want to maintain their race or culture. They have that right as well no?
Mandzukic just scored a tap in the cup
What’s wrong with a free society where people marry whoever they want?
@Ziva Istina
Don’t bother with the basement mold.
@ Jarac
Ej, prikoci malo……………..
@Ziva
You are wrong. That Chinese person can never be a Croat ever.
@Jarac…………you are correct. I got sucked in.
@slavoserb. I never said I was for opening up our borders to anyone and everyone. I was presented with a hypothetical situation about a random Chinese person coming to Cro. So, hypotheticaly, I would consider an indivisual from another country who came and settled down in Cro and decided to immerse himself in the culture and identity of Croatia as a hrvat more so than someone who can’t speak the langauge or knows nothing about lijepa nasa.
Now, you can go an spin that anyway you want.
If you say so…..you know what they say about history, it’s biased by those who wrote it.
@Jelic
You have indeed been studying a sheltered version of history.
@Jarac
HAET is just mislead by Germanic B.S. He needs to ne more Pro-Croat.
Amen. Svaka ti cast Jarac.
@Ziva and Denis,
I’m disappointed in you guys for engaging with HAET, the kid is a retard and states the same thing over and over. Man your like a broken record, what don’t u get this isn’t some white redneck fckin website for u to post about white genocide. If you want to marry white, then so be it, if someone else doesn’t leave em the fck alone. Get it u backward thinking uneducated fruitcake. Let me ask u one questions HAET, how old are u? And a second questions, due to ur conversation I can tell that u lack education, did u finish the eighth grade? And finally slusaj peder jednog, nisi ti hrvat nego si najveci govno na svijetu, odjebi, jel to shvacas?
great pass from Rakitic
Common knowledge? Never heard of it, and I majored in History in University. Learn something new every day……not always particularly useful, but something new every day.
Man, I really hate allowing myself to get pulled down this rabbit hole.
@Jelic
Lol come on man. Its is common knowledge that when people say the West they are referring to Germanic Europe. You know the ones that call us inferior.
@HAET
Have you read any of the comments from Vladimir Dvornikovid on the Dinaric Superman?
Slavoserb says:
@HAET
Can you define white?
I dont hate them I just seem Western people as a weak race.
I never knew “Western People” were a race?!? Can you kindly define their “borders, history, etc.?”
@Slavo
Yes thats what I try to tell HAET. To many Westerners are just pussies. UberSlav is the new term for today lol.
HAET, have google a dude named Csanad Szegedi, Hungarian ultra-right winger from Hungary and what he recently found out about his recent ancestry.
You no doubt are like all of us and can’t conclusively determine more than 2-3 generations back. Careful what you protest so vehemently, might bite you in the proverbial guzica.
Can we get back to sports, specifically nogomet for God sakes?!?!?
P.S. Yeah I know, I’ll try not to encourage this stuff but all the race relations B.S. just got to be a little too much. Oprostite.
@Haet
Camp of the Saints is happening to the west in a much slower rate unlike the book when it was a huge invasion.
The key is with the East. Lets focus our efforts with us because when the Wests falls we will move in and clean it out and take it over for ourselves. The UberSlav has spoken.
@HAET
Can you define white?
I dont hate them I just seem Western people as a weak race.
@Ziva Shame on you with the Chinese comment. You will regret saying that once the E.U. opens our borders. We have every right to control our borders and to deflect migrants. We have every right to only allow compatible people if we choose to. Look at what Israel is doing to it’s African Migrants.
@Elvis, do you hate white western women?
Denis: “How many women get married to a paycheck? How many dudes get married to a trophy? These are all the same as a black dude wanting a white wife for the reasons that you wrote.”
No Denis, it’s not the same. A white women marrying a rich white guy produces white babies. A white dude marrying a good looking white women produces good looking white babies (we cant have that now- cuz it’s “raaaciss”!)
A white having a non-white baby is a negative force-multiplier against our race – not only is the white not producing white babies, they are producing non-white babies. Miscegenation is genocide.
@HAET
Blackmen date and disrespect white women because basically they can. This is true in the West. Us here from the east would not tolerate it. Western men have become totally wimpy. Do you want to be a part of them?
@Jelic, you’re not going to justify white genocide with the “we’re all from Africa” bullshit, are you? Nobody is pouring hundreds of millions of foreign races into ANY (NOT ONE) non-white country, forcing integration/”assimilation”, incessantly promoting a “melting pot”, while demonizing and even criminalizing anyone who objects to this obvious program of genocide, and saying “stop complaining, we’re all from Africa!” And even if they were, I could care less what non-whites do with themselves, I want to preserve my race, the white race – that’s my concern. It’s easy being a psychopath – i.e. caring only about yourself.
HAET, just curious where did your ancestors come from?
@Denis Svirčić
“Croatians are really sensitive people. You cant tell a Croatian that his father is a drunk bastard if his father is really a drunk bastard. Ok, a little extreme, but you get my point.”
You don’t do that to anyone that’s close, regardless if I’m Half Croat or not or if someone’s a Serb, etc.
“This might be true. I dont get it. But it might be true. So what if he is?”
In regards to his “one mans opinion statement”.
HAET,
You could be right. People get married for the “wrong reasons”. Reasons, that I think are wrong like money, power, and looks. How many women get married to a paycheck? How many dudes get married to a trophy? These are all the same as a black dude wanting a white wife for the reasons that you wrote.
We are really getting off topic. You have my email. Shoot me an email and we will continue this conversation later. Off to work, I be back in a couple of hours. (Dalmatinci only work 2 hour days).
@Ziva Istina
“The reason this website has so many or so few followers (depending on how you look at it) has nothing to do with me.”
” In fact, I think I force more comments than anyone.”
Most defiantly you do but pissing everyone off isn’t going to get us Croatians, full, half or quarter together. I see this a lot amongst diaspora Croats who claim (not all) that were a small community and need to bring up our numbers in our population. Yet they segregate Croats.
” The reason this website will not attract a greater following is because it is a specific website geared for a specific population.”
It’ll get much smaller when you look down & write off your half Croat counterparts.
” Just how many diaspora hrvati who love and follow sports do you think are out there. the # is not that high. ”
Soccer is arguably the number 1 sport for majority of Croats, & this site is one of its kind..
BlackZodiac,
Croatians are really sensitive people. You cant tell a Croatian that his father is a drunk bastard if his father is really a drunk bastard. Ok, a little extreme, but you get my point.
Ziva istina says anything negative about your town, your family, your team, and people go ape shit.
I remember Ziva saying “Sibenik is just a poop stop in between Split and Zadar.” in most cases its probably true. I got a good chuckle out of it. Am I trying to set up a hit on Ziva Istina? 1) I’m not that sensitive. 2) I dont go ape shit.
“You are one of the most hated on this site”
This might be true. I dont get it. But it might be true. So what if he is?
@Denis, a non-white male who marries a female white prefers white women to women who look like the mulatto daughters their miscegenation would produce. That’s evil, they never think about their children, only themselves – this is literally psychotic. This miscegenation is ONLY happening on a grand scale in most white countries, that’s why ONLY white children are becoming a smaller percentage of the world’s population with no end in site. Assimilation is genocide, ask the famous aboriginal leader Mick Dodson. When do whites get to say no to mass foreign race immigration and “assimilation” like all non-white populations do? When we’re 5% of the world’s population? 1%? 0.1%?
@Ziva, so you’re a multiCULTist? You are loyal to language over blood? You are a wordist, no? You are loyal to a passport/paper over blood? That’s especially funny coming from a guy who doesn’t even live in Croatia! LOL!
Since Croatia currently has low birth rates and is projected to lose over 1 million in population over the next few decades, let’s bring in 2 million Africans and Asians and teach them the language and Croatian history! – because according to you, these new immigrants would be “REAL” Croatians!
It’s funny how you tell people to learn from U – Your way of thinking is actually destructive for Croatians, no?
@Black Zodiac…….am I the most hated on the website? maybe, I don’t get it. am I the most liked on this website, maybe, and I still don’t get it.
The reason this website has so many or so few followers (depending on how you look at it) has nothing to do with me. In fact, I think I force more comments than anyone. The reason this website will not attract a greater following is because it is a specific website geared for a specific population. Just how many diaspora hrvati who love and follow sports do you think are out there. the # is not that high.
Appaluds to the guys who run this. I enjoy it, I enjoy the debates and the back-and-forth nature of it.
HAET,
You make a good point. A chinaman or Eduardo will never be seen as a Croatian. They dont have croatian blood. Eduardo is Brazilian and will always be brazilian first. However, we call him croatian for what he has done for the country and how he has adopted the culture. Eduardo’s wife is 100% croatian(from what I know) and his children will be 50% ethnic croatian.
In the end, the argument here is that blood is not that important in society if you cant speak the language, know the history, sing the songs, know the culture. A typical Croatian living in Croatia would rather hang out with an eduardo than an american with 100% croatian blood that cant speak croatian
HAET…….i think you answered your own questions. I don’t care for any of that. My only comment was about hrvati and what in my opinion I think is a hrvat and if i think someone who doesn’t speak the langauge is or is not a hrvat.
That was all.
I have no plans to make this a discussion about the things you mentioned. You can. It’s a valid topic, but one that does not interest me today.
@HAET
It happens to everyone, myself just recently. You alarmists take the small things to a different level.
@Zeljko
” I don’t I der stand why you and and ante kiss zivas ass.”
Rumor has it, Ziva is “famous”.
“This clown is setting a bad example for kids on the site by continuously ridiculing fellow Croatians on multiple occasions. Think that’s setting a good example for Croatian youth? And what gives Ziva istina the right to claim that the parents of croatian youth have “failed them” if they can’t speak croatian. This clown had only failed himself and is a disgrace.”
Agreed & that is why this site will have a low cap of frequent posters and viewers.
@Ziva Istina
“relax sine. it’s one man’s opinion.”
One mans opinion… You are one of the most hated on this site.. The hate went so far as to Dukic looking to find you and I’m sure it wasn’t to reach out to your vast nirvana of soccer knowledge either.
You do get a rise out of many people on here, I’ll give you that. It’s entertaining to see and I congratulate you on it.
Ziva, how many full blooded Croatians living in Croatia know anything significant about Croatian history. I live in America, and the vast majority of the population actually believes America is a “melting pot”. Meanwhile, back on planet earth, there is NOTHING in the constitution about any “melting pot”; the Statue of Liberty has nothing to do with immigration other than some immigrants seeing it when they got to America. A Sephardic Jewess who’s father was a big time slave trader wrote some fucking poem about the Statue of Liberty which has the phrase “melting pot” in it, and somehow thanks to incessant anti-white propaganda, the masses take this bullshit as being “America” over the Constitution (written and signed by white guys) which states that America is for OURSELVES and OUR POSTERITY. Not to mention the first immigration act since this country was born in 1776 which stated that the U.S. was for “free whites of good moral character”.
Zeljko,
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion on this website. Ziva Istina shares his own personal views. Do I agree with everything? no. Do I agree with most of what he has to say? Yes. Does that make me look as if I am kissing his ass? Depending on who you ask. I can see why people would think that I am kissing Ziva’s ass.
Profanity is unacceptable!
CroatianSports.com hasn’t made me any $$$, or made me famous. Along with Ante, we dont have a boss over our heads telling us what to do. There is no need for me to kiss Ziva’s ass. What do I get out of it? nothing. I’m not a kiss ass person in general. Quit a few jobs in the past because kissing ass all of a sudden became part of my job description.
I think Ziva Istina brings a lot to the table, day in day out. You might not agree with him, thats fine. All we ask is that you refrain from using bad language.
As far as the Croatian topic. You are Croatian by blood, even if you dont speak, read, or write croatian. However, so many people call themselves croatian, grbs tatooed all over their bodies, bashing serbs, etc etc and the only croatian they can speak is “daj mi pivo”. Put in some effort. Learn the language, learn the history, learn the culture, visit croatia in the off season.
Who “failed” who didn’t doesnt matter to me. Do something about it. I just returned from San Francisco where I visited Ivo Miljanovich, a Peruvian-Croatian. Ivo’s grandpa was born in Croatia. Ivo knows a little bit about croatian history, knows about where his name came from, and is learning Croatian through books and language tapes at home. I applaud him.
There is no excuse for anyone out there. You fail yourself if you choose not to learn the language, history, and culture of croatia.
So many people complain that the locals dont see them as croatian. “They dont like us.” I hear this in American culture all the time. Just like how the arabs “dont like us.” Why dont they like Americans? Americans should stop and ask themselves this question. Everything is for a reason.
Anyways, long rant. I wrote too much.
Well, since you ask……….
Sure, in that situation. If a Chinaman comes to Croatia, begins to learn, speak and understand the language and culture, and plans to live and call Croatia home…..then yes, I would consider him/her more of a croat than some random american who calls himslef a hrvat but cant speak the language and has no clue about his background due tio the failuers of his family.
Isn’t this the Da Silva siutation. Remove Chinaman and insert Brazilian.
Ziva Istina: “If one wants to call himself a hrvat that person – in my opinion – should be able to know the culture and history, speak, write and understand the language.”
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Ziva, I’ve asked this question several times on this site and never get a straight answer: If a Chinaman immigrates to Croatia, gets his “papers”, becomes fluent in Croatian and becomes a professor of Croatian history, you are saying said Chinaman is Croatian? You are saying said Chinaman is more Croatian than someone with 100% Croatian blood who doesn’t speak Croatian?
Denis…your new hair cut is beautiful
I never said I was the biggest or best hrvat. just a hrvat.
If one wants to call himself a hrvat that person – in my opinion – should be able to know the culture and history, speak, write and understand the language. That is all. Has nothing to do with political or social beliefs.
Either way, this is way off the topic.
For life tips people should follow me on twitter @ziva_istina, but only after I fully embrace twitter.
Moji roditelji su mi uvjek pricali da oni ljudi koji se predstaviju kao naj veci Hrvati su obicno Udba!
Just sayin’
Where can I get my Sammy bobble head?
“Ziva Istina…..a role model for all hrvati to unite behind.”
lololol
Crvena zvezda cut Prosinečki loose
http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/news/newsid=1848070.html
Rather have him on the staff of the national team over Jurcic and Tudor.
Štimac: Sammira ću zvati kada se sredi, vraćaju se Petrić i Šimunić
http://www.nogometni-magazin.com/newspro/coranto/viewnews.cgi?id=EFuVuyVVVAdYyJMxCV&tmpl=coranto_sp2014
@Zeljko………..relax sine. it’s one man’s opinion. Get over it. Here is my thinking: if people want to claim they are croatian (actual croatian and not just “american-croatian” or “a person of croatian bloodline”) then in my opinion they should be able to speak, read and write croatian. Following croatian sports and croatian soccer does not make someone croatian. As if putting on a checkerboard jersey is enough (hey look everyone, i am croatian because I wear the $80 Nike Croatian jersey.)
And yes, if you or your kids don’t speak croatian, then you have failed them or your parents have failed you. What the hell is so radical with that type of thinking.
I realize admitting failure is not easy for many people.
Unlike your claim, I am the one setting the example here. Follow my lead and teach your kids, relatives, friends how to speak, read and write croatian. Take them to church and teach them our history. Saying your a fan of (Luka Modric or some other player) does not make one a hrvat. It could make one a jock-sniffer, but not a hrvat.
Ziva Istina…..a role model for all hrvati to unite behind.
@ Dennis exactly we have kids on this site. I don’t I der stand why you and and ante kiss zivas ass. This clown is setting a bad example for kids on the site by continuously ridiculing fellow Croatians on multiple occasions. Think that’s setting a good example for Croatian youth? And what gives Ziva istina the right to claim that the parents of croatian youth have “failed them” if they can’t speak croatian. This clown had only failed himself and is a disgrace.
@Ante Kvartuc, remember when you told me you erased my comments because they were “jibberish”? And I pointed out that if my comments were “jibberish”, you wouldn’t erase them. Remember?
This has been proven over and over and over again on this site. Are the beastiality links still up? The Worst thing in the world, the ONLY thing you ban is anything explicitly pro-white. And I’m the nut?
It’s just a well deserved response to the dumb ass hajdukovci who were celebrating being at the top due to goal difference.
@Zeljko,
We have kids on the site.
@Ante B,
I was waiting for you to chime in on Hajduk’s stumble.
@Denis Svirčić
“Its been a long time since I’ve seen BS likes this from a team(Tottenham).”
It was a done deal but Levy tried to squeeze another £2 out of the Spanish club at the last minute.
Anything to declare?
Yeah. Don’t go to England.
@Zeljko……Ok, so what is a fuckwit? And how can I be worse than a serb?? I may make you sick (go to Walgreens, they have all sorts of items to help you), but at the same time I also enlighten and educate you. Stick around, you’ll enjoy it.
Just got back form Cleveland which was incredible. Too much negativity.
Also saw that Dinamo is now in first place. Can a hajdukovac please confirm that?
@ Ziva my comment was altered by the administrators. I called you a fuckwit and worse than a Serb you kretan. You make me sick
@jm,
thanks for the suggestion, but I’m a little confused. Posts to be numbered or dated? All of our articles are in order by date posted.
Also, if you havent done so, sign in under “forums”. Here you can sign into our system and have access to:
1) All comments in order by date/time
2) All articles in a 20 articles per page list.
3) Your own avatar/picture
@Ziva,
fair enough
@Denis…….i don’t have much time for fantasy. I m in one league that is enough for me. More consumed with fantasy football once that gets going. I follow the EPL like the other big leagues, but I don’t have a favorite team. I enjoy watching the games and having the stars play, but I can’t really say that I have a rooting interest in any team.
@Zeljko…….what’s your problem? and what is a fu*kwit???? Do tell.
@ denis
I’d like to make the suggestion again that posts can be numbered or time stamped. not sure if this is tough to do. It makes it easier to follow and see which posts you’ve seen already and which you haven’t yet etc
Ziva istina your such a fu*kwit honestly.
Štimac se javno ispričava, a unutar četiri zida se – obračunava. Kranjčara i Mandžukića optužio za poraz
http://www.jutarnji.hr/stimac-se-javno-ispricava–a-unutar-cetiri-zida-se—obracunava–kranjcara-i-mandzukica-optuzio-za-poraz/1048407/
Klasnic will most likely sign for Dinamo if they make the CL
@Ziva Istina,
Your thoughts on fantasy football? Have you ever played? Interested in our league?
Do you follow an EPL team?
@Shinobi,
Niiiiiiiiice avatar. Very creative. I stopped following the Modric transfer rumors about a month ago. CS wont report anything until Modric signs the dotted line. Its been a long time since I’ve seen BS likes this from a team(Tottenham).
@Jelic,
no clue about Klasnic.
@Corey and nicks are the same 12-year-old person
@Zach,
“The “Are you watching Clint Dempsey?” chants were hilarious”
thats funny. Fulham fans are awesome.
@Jack V,
You cant pick a fantasy team based on how it would look in real life because its fantasy. They dont play together. Its ok to have 2 LB starting or Gerrard and Lampard starting even though in real life it hasn’t worked for England.
You are right about Man City and some of the other deep squads. They have players to rotate, especially when champs league rolls around. This is why I avoided Manu and Man City players.
@Jelic
It’s rumored that he might go to Dinamo, but right now he’s a free agent and training on his own in Germany
Modric deal on verge of collapse.
Levy the tight arse apparenty wants another 2 million.
Jose is sick of the shit and wants to pull the plug on the deal.
http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/909008-luka-modrics-spurs-to-real-madrid-transfer-on-verge-of-collapse
Does anyone know btw if Klasnic has landed anywhere?
This is really setting up for a disaster and it will be a great comedy show for us to watch. Which is good news because Hrvatska lacks croatian-produced comedy shows on HRT, NOVA or RTL, but this will more than make up for it.
By all accounts wanne-be Brazilian-born Hrvat Sammir had a good game yesterday against Zadar (or Bjezigrad to some of you). Let the justification begin for his inclusion to the repka.
The savez better get the specijalci ready for the home match against Macedonia because if the result does not go our way things may get really ugly. But, it will be great TV for us to watch.
Stimac will release the list of players for our games with Macedonia and Belgium on Wednesday….
Srna doesn’t think Sammir is good enough…some comments from the captain, I have a feeling if he gets called up some Stimac will lose the locker room
@corey
maybe you should learn how to spell croatians first you uneducated prick. Stay off this website idiot.
This week the Modric saga comes to end. Well played by both parties. Modric gets his wish and Levy gets the money he wants.
What is worse? Being an inbred fag or being named Corey?
seems like croatia is going to win the world cup magic. (cardgame)
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Events.aspx
i wish the worst on cro soccer oooooooooohhhhhhhhh wait there already shitttt
croasians are all inbred fags
Just caught all the highlights , Perisic , beautiluf goal , what do you call that a snap wrist shot wow , beautifull none the ssel
Petrić nice start , got lucky on the goals but Played descent.
Lilywhite fans and AVB I’m gonna start feeling sorry for you right now , because your top 4 finishes are done
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@BlackZodiac
Yes exactly. It was pretty much expected by everyone that Levy would pull something like this. If Modric returns to Tottenham im interested to see how he plays. the fans are against him now for wanting out!
@Zach Gilfix
Tottenham played with a lot of speed from what I’ve noticed. Though you can see Modric was missed on the pitch today.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4494641/Luka-Modric-fears-his-move-to-Real-Madrid-could-collapse.html
lol and this is a prime example of why everyone thinks levy is a greedy snake. Typical BS
Martin Jol said Dempsey heard Liverpool bid for him and then demanded a move but it turned out Liverpool never bid for him and now he’s waiting for a deal I think. TBH, I don’t see Liverpool finishing more than a couple spots ahead of Fulham anyways.
The “Are you watching Clint Dempsey?” chants were hilarious
@Zach:
Thanks for the info. I wouldn’t say I was a Spurs fan, but I was interested in watching the 2-4 Hrvati on the team. Now, the team is dead to me.
I can’t see this coach lasting that long at Tottenham. Liverpool won’t suck forever and Champion’s League is going to get harder to come by for Spurs.
They should have pulled the trigger a little sooner on Modric and signed a respectable striker and central defenseman.
Siggurdson is a solid player. Lets face it, any foreign player in the EPL is going to be good. All the hacks are from the UK.
What do you think about the Dempsey saga?
IMHO it is different than Modric because Modric has had multiple legit offers since last summer. Dempsey wants to play in the Champion’s League, but Liverpool is a gamble.
If he really wanted to play in the Champion’s League he would wait for his contract to expire at the end of the season and move to a “lesser” league.
@JackV
Tottenham actually played really well all things considered. They outplayed Newcastle @ St. James Park without Modric or his replacement, without Scott Parker, and with Defoe as their only striker. They were really unlucky not to get at least a point. Siggurdson looks like quite the player as well
@Allen:
I didn’t catch the Spurs game. How did they do without Modric?
Some people don’t see what Modric brings to the table, but his through balls and passing really help that team.
@ Denis:
The last two years I chose a squad that would actually work (in real life) as a real team and then ignored it the whole season.
This fantasy team allows you to pick no left backs etc. In real life that would be a disaster.
I agree about the Dempsey and Parker picks, I was thinking about changing them. Both players, like Modric would play 90 minutes every week if they were healthy and staying with their teams.
Parker will play regularly when he comes back from injury. I think Dempsey isn’t going anywhere and is going to have another great year at Fulham just like Modric did at Tottenham last season.
I like many Man City players, but that squad is so deep that many don’t get consistent playing time.
@Dinko Dog:
I wouldn’t call Kalinic a bomb. I watched almost all of his games at Blackburn.
He was ALONE up on top when Big Sam was manager. It was brutal long balls straight to him with his back to goal and multiple defenders breathing down his neck.
Even so, he managed to score a few nice goals. He made Tim Howard look really bad in a match against Everton.
@Poglavnik
Balaban,, Mornar, Zivkovic, Kalinic to name a few ….
So unfortunately you’re wrong
@Poglavnik,
I have two words for you:
BOSKO BALABAN
rated the worst transfer in the history of the EPL
@Jack,
You can change your formation every week. Also, you have the option of one free transfer per week. You have a good squad. But why draft Scott Parker when he is gone for another 3 weeks or so. Also, I like Dempsey, but it looks like he might struggle this year because, like Modric, he was looking for a transfer to a champs league club. Nice Petric pick. Dude will continue to start and get 60-90 minutes every week.
bbb. smece od purgera.
Has there ever been a Croatian bust in the Premier League? I think not! From Asanovic, to Stimac, to Bilic, to Suker, Prosinecki, Kranjcar, Eduardo, (even Biscan), Modric, Corluka, Klasnic, and Petric. We seem to play pretty well over there. Hopefully Kovacic can get developed over there.
3-4-3. Although I should be able to win if I could implement a 3-5-3
I agree about Klasnic and the NT.
Jelavic is tough, hard working and hungry.
Although IMHO he doesn’t have the finesse of Klasnic/Petric, but he will continue to score his one touch strikes with an occasional stunner.
If Dempsey stays at Fulham and I change my formation to a 3-5-3, I think may have a shot at the CSR fantasy pool.
@Jack,
Jelavic is more of a battler for position in the box and is good at positioning himself for an easy strike. Jelavic had a few nice goals from dificult positions but nothing like Klasnic and Petric in their prime. Jelavic has the potential to be a great striker, but he doesnt have the talent of a Klasnic and/or Petric. Klasnic isn’t dubbed “killer” for nothing and Petric has multiple career highlight videos(mostly with goals for Dortmund and HSV),
Klasnic is just about done and never got the proper service playing in the checkers, while Petric still has something to offer the national team, however, Stimac has to fit him in the right system for him to be effective.
I remember the Bremen coach commenting in ’04 I believe on how Baric or Cico Kranjcar failed to use klasnic correctly. He said something like, “Croatia has a ferrari(Klasnic) in the garage, but they dont know how to drive stick”
@Denis:
I agree, the three old guard strikers you mentioned are smart and skilled.
All three pick out other players runs and are capable of a nice pass or through ball.
Who will score from an overhead kick 1st? Jelavic or Petric?
If Petric was a few years younger I would put my money on him.
Jack,
I was always a big fan of Mladen Petric and Ivan Klasnic. Along with Eduardo, they are the only Croatian strikers once capable of scoring a Wundergol. Petric has sucked for the national team and Klasnic hasn’t had a great impact wearing the checkers. Both players have a nose for the goal and can score from odd angles. It all depends what kind of service these players get. You will rarely see these players miss like Olic and Mandzukic. However, Klasnic and Petric are useless without the proper service. Just like Davor Suker was useless at Arsenal without the proper service.
I’m loving Petric at Fulham. Been a fan of Fulham since ’04. Great low key club with a rich history and awesome fans. I will never forget the experience catching Fulham-Southampton in freezing conditions during winter of ’04.
As far as my hair, not a big deal. I had it long for the last 6 years or so. No more hair in my face, no more hair in my girlfriend’s face, no more long showers, no more boo shit.
Mladen got repeatedly man handled today by the goons of Norwich City.
To his credit he took it well, but it is going to be a long season.
I have to give Fulham credit. They change players and/or managers and are always entertaining.
They never have superstars but they are all comfortable on the ball, know how to pass and usually stay on their feet.
@Denis:
Is your new hair cut a tribute to Petric?
shit, I guess I should change my avatar after going clean cut now. Denis.Svircic.2.0 coming up.
Nice goals from Petric. However, lets not get crazy about Mladen yet. I will take the 13 fantasy points though. What a cheap pick up for 6.0.
@JP,
thanks for the heads up on Justin Hamilton. Team CS is on top of it.
Ziva,
Dude I’m in downtown Cleveland right now and this place is pretty sick all things considered. Im hitting up Horseshoe Casino tomorrow to cure my soon to be hangover. I assume it’s not cool in the winter. Fuck the weather is better here than in San Jose
I wish I picked him. Rakitic played great for Sevilla for the first time in a LONG time
I thought Petric looked tired at Hamburg last season. Maybe a change of scenery will do him some good.
Did anyone else pick Petric for their fantasy team?
Pertric can still contribute to the NT. Maybe Martin Jol just knows how to get the best out of Petric, because Petric had his best seasons at Hamburg with Jol on the side line. Right now I would take Petric over Kalinic.
2 goals for Olic in the first half against a 5th division team in the German Cup
Miami Heat and Croatia doing business? Ah I like it, the champs will give you a young player for everyone to enjoy.
Spurs game was really bland. Nothing much too note, AVB is going to feel the heat already.
Nice to see Kresic playing, I think that could be a huge plus for us. Great to see Mladen get off to a great start in the EPL too!
A little off topic but maybe CSR wants to get a hold of this guy for an interview…. He’s a fellow diasporite.
http://www.croatiantimes.com/news/Sports/2012-08-16/29016/Miami_Heat_NBA_player_wants_to_play_for_Croatia
Most people here thought Petric would do reasonably well in the EPL, and they were right. But I wouldn’t be so quick on the trigger to call him up regularly for the repka.
Unlike years in the past, Croatia actually has some depth in the forward position today. This actually proved to be a bit of a problem for Bilic in the last qualifying term because none of them were top-tier world class strikers, but all of them were pretty good…so it was hard to choose a tandem for the national team.
Unfortunately, he seemed to experiment by rotating all of them and none actually played consistently enough to develop any chemistry with one another. He luckily made the right call with Mandzo in the Euros, but we still don’t know if a Jelavic-Mandzo tandem will work since those two STILL haven’t played much together.
I’ve held off on judging Stimac just yet, but I really don’t want to see a rotation of Jelavic, Mandzukic, Petric, Olic, Vukusic, Perisic, Klasnic, Kalinic, and Eduardo in the forward positions during these qualifiers.
I just hope he pairs the two most talented and in-form strikers (most likely Mandzo and Jelavic) and starts them for at least three games, relying on any other in-form strikers as backups if the tandem struggles during these first three games. I just wish he used the Swiss friendly to test out Mandzo/Jela for the first half, before going against Macedonia and Belgium early next month.
Petric is not starting 11 Croatia caliber anymore, maybe the 4th-5th striker but the guy rarely showed up against decent opposition
@Allen Steven
” This is how you do it similar to how Klasnic did.”
If not better than Klasnic. Mladen Petric is the only striker for Croatia in who scores brilliant goals from outside the box regularly.
Kresic started last week for Loko as well.
This is nothing new with Petric. We have seen him perform very well at the club level before and not much with the repka. I’m sure he will get another chance with Stimac, but I wont expect much from him based of his history with the repka.
I don’t know if it’s too late now or not, but if I was the savez I would change the location for the first qualifier. Play in Osijek, not ZG. The atmosphere in ZG and in Maksimir will resemble Split and be bad for that game. There is a growing resentment against the trifecta of Stimac, Mamic and Puppet Suker
Two goals and a magical assist. Excellent job Mladen
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Petric wants back on the national team apparently. This is how you do it similar to how Klasnic did.
@Zach, missed your post and I’m watching on Tivo so I haven’t seen the second goal yet.
Anyone watching the Fulham game? Petric is playing awesome. Great passing and he just scored a goal. He’s looking awesome. I’m very happy for him.
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Make that two goals for Petric on his debut! Shot from 30 yards out and got a huge deflection
Also, Kresic is starting for Loko today. Would rather see him than Subasic or Kelava as the backup
COYS!!! Pranjic is covered cause he’s still nt quality. We’ll see what he can do at Lisbon.
Petric looked very good in the first half against Norwich. Had a couple good chances, nearly got an assist and scored off a corner. Has to be called up next month if he establishes himself as a regular at Fulham. Not sure what would happen if Dempsey stays
Lets go Spurs! Regardless of a Croatless team, I still support. Pranjic is garbage, I have no idea why he’s still covered. He hasn’t been good since 2008.
He signed for Pescara for 4M Euros?
Vukusic leaving hakduk? find that out and more the WEEKLY HNL REPORT! Coming on Sunday night! I know you’re all excited.
Everton plays on Monday.