Scottish shock in Zagreb, Croatia lose 1-0

warm up in a tourney?????? That is what the friendlies leading in are for. First match requires max effort.

Cock blocker?????/ what are you talking/referring about?

I disagree with Dob’s. They look much better with cropped ears. Who was the guy that owned Enzo?

Ziva must be a monk.

don’t listen to ziva!

there is some fantastic va-jay-jay there !!!!

@dennis
Correct we need wingers. Amusing how people on this site won’t give up saying he is world class. Too many homer glasses.

my prediction for tonight game

if Lovren doesnt play we LOST 3-0

if Lovren plays we draw 2-2

u fuckers are all forgetting about the champion DEJAN LOVREN

look for him to score a brace tonight against some wankers

@Poglavnik

“Cropping your animals body parts is like chopping off your foreskin. It’s not normal.”

My female Doberman got into a fight with a male Rottweiler a month back, sometime during the fight he had gotten her ear pretty good. Though I am against dog fights I was proud of her when she was tearing at the back of the Rottweilers neck.

Were getting her a male dobe (ears cropped) in a few months to help her with her aggressive behavior.

@Mishko

How much does your dog weigh?

as for the Portugal game it’ll be a b-team, nobody carfes about i reckon we’ll lose 3-0

@ziva, I agree with what you say about the savez and how they run the HNS. But if you hate the HNS and the monkey playing for Cro, than my question to you is why don’t you take your own advice on boycotting the national team? You talk smack about if Sammir plays for Cro you don’t even give two shits on the outcome of the game? Why are you not boycotting? And by boycotting I mean not even watch any of the games and not follow the team! Don’t even post any comments regarding players coaches and management

@Bobby V:

I agree about the shooting.

Perisic can shoot, but had a bad game and I am surprised that Srna did not cut in and shoot given how much space was given up in midfield.

Modric can shoot,but obviously he doesn’t apply in this case.

I agree about Kranjcar’s shooting.

Maybe the diaspora can work on producing another shooting striker.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMINEkzC4-w

@Ziva:

I agree that Dzeko is more comfortable with the ball at his feet than SMM or Gomez.

However, he does not routinely beat defenders 1v1. He is more like SMM than Ibra or RVP.

I would rate him over SMM as well. This is just a casual half ass observation on my part, but Dzeko seems less resilient than SMM.

I have caught some ManCity games where Dzeko looked down after being roughed up or not getting a call. For me SMM does not suffer from that as much. For instance, he was fouled by the Juventus defender this CL campaign. SMM got up and then scored on the subsequent play.

It could be that SMM’s attitude would sour a little bit too if he was routinely gooned up in the EPL.

For some it means nothing.I have a personal reason for a win.

Ziva bro,this not a friendly to me!!! I NEED our boyz to win tomorrow!!!…

lineup for Portugal will look something like this:

Subašić, Srna, Ćorluka, Vida, Strinić – Rakitić, Modrić, Kovačić, Perišić – Olić, Kalinić

there’s a world class cock down my pants

@ Ziva and Denis

Again it depends on your definition of world class. My definition is that you play at the highest level and can contribute to even the best teams. Mine is obviously much more lax. Dzecko for instance, rides the bench at Man City, but when you look at the teams that would love to have him (including juventus and dortmund) and what he did at wolfsburg, you can’t ignore that quality.

I don’t want you to think that I look at SMM as just a Croatian fan, but pretty objectively. Being a forward is more than scoring goals. Sure you have forwards like Aguero and Suarez that will create chances for themselves and will and can score from anywhere around the 18. Then you have forwards that play the loan striker role to a T. Any long ball played to them will be trapped and played off. Plays well with his back to the goal. And more and more have a ton of defensive responsibilities as well. The last part in my opinion is becoming more and more an important part of the game. Cherry pickers, per say, aren’t going to be around in ten years (Gomez). So yea, 90% of strikers that are in form will score at Munich, but not all will give the attack an outlet the way Mandzo does. There’s a 100 different things to look at when analyzing a forward, one and probably most important of which is scoring goals, but others are also very important. Good runs, using space well, great touch, great finishing, playing with his back to the goal, passing off to on running players, dribbling etc. A lot of these create your own chances strikers also waste a ton of shots that will go 50 yards over the goal when maybe a pass was better had. Is mandzukic top 10 in Europe, we can probably argue that all day, but does he have real quality and is he better than a lot of strikers that play at top clubs, definitely.

@Igor thanks brother. He’s gotten a lot better since then.

I know this is a sports forum and Schutzhund is huge in Europe and the point that I was trying to make is that the politicians will do what ever it takes to line their pockets by getting us under the hammer of the EU debt machine.

What Stimac did was NOT in the interest of winning the game, it was to line his own pockets. I wouldn’t be surprised if some anonymous people placed some large bets against Croatia.

@Mishko

Thanks for the link on the laws.

Impressive demonstration. Enzo must make you proud.

I don’t care either way, but other similar sized/shaped dogs don’t get their ears routinely cropped and they look “normal”.

German Short Haired Pointers
Weimaraners
Dalmatians

@ cousin Bilo haha actually I read some statement about that in a Croatian newspaper when I was in Split. I’m sure Alen did not say that and who cares we all need to support each other to qualify. Its too bad we cant all be together and demolish but fuck it boys not our fault.

@Mate Cleveland,

I agree with you on Strinic. I wouldn’t say that he’s all that bad. Like you said, we dont have a replacement.

Here is where I think Mandzukic is overrated by Croatian fans….. When “Super Mario” was not in the Bayern lineup, Bayern strikers would still score. You can insert Bosko Balaban on Bayern and he would score.

It really just depends on your definition of world class. I always thought it meant you were a top tier player, not that you were top five in the world in your position.

Denis, take tevez off your list and you might have something.

My whole point with that post above was that people were being overly critical and tearing their hair out. We have a good set of players. Still think is the best generation since that of 98, which I don’t know how much that really says when looking at the quality we put together during the in between time.

And to make everyone feel better, most teams struggle at the LB position. Very few teams have a good one. Alaba is strong, Patrice evra back in the day and I don’t know who else. Strinic isn’t that poor in the position. How many people can really recall a teams LB without looking it up

@Igor Rukovic. No rules at all here in the U.S.

Here’s the list for Europe.

http://www.dobermann-review.com/info_library/Misc/Cropping_and_docking/index.php

Igor here’s my boy. He’s training in Schutzhund.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeBwIDdYXeU

@ziva istina

Offcourse I would rather miss the WC, and have a clean out. Then rather qualify and keep these fuckwits at the helm.

But like you said that won’t happen either way.

Mamic and co. should be line up and shot for what their doing.

” one can dream”

I stand by my comments, I will not support the repka any longer. They are dead to me! And it has nothing to do with this Scottish result as someone mentioned above, @elyctro or rather.
This has been building for a long while and I’m full. Yesterday was just the straw that broke the camels back.

I will not support side with sammir type players on it, I might aswell follow Mongolia.

Strinic isn’t that bad and we are thin at that position.

I’m still behind Stimac. He will have to make more than one mistake before I start to question him. However, I don’t understand why Vida didn’t start right back and Srna on the right, giving Rakitic a more favourable role in the centre/left area. Eduardo should’ve also started ahead of Olic. I’d have preferred to see Kranjcar over Sammir, I know Kranjcar isn’t up to much these days but he was the our top goalscorer in the EURO qualifying campaign.

If the Scots never got their lucky break, we would’ve probably won 2-0 in the end however that wasn’t to be.

As I have kept stressing, WHERE IS THE CLEAR CUT CHANCES? No one on ones, quick counter attacks, nothing. Just corners and free kicks with the occasional Mandzukic/Olic tap in.

P.S. I hate Strinic

@Denis
I’d add Suarez and Ibra to that list and probably take Rooney off of it.
As far as best headers of the ball, I’ve always liked Miro Klose and Christian Vieri.

A suker comes around only once every 40 years.

Starters supposedly injured. Its the offseason. players dont give a shit about a friendly.

What happened to our starters for portugal?

@LikaJoey,

For Portugal we will be missing half of our starting 11. I’m not sure how Portugal will treat this friendly. Also, its just a friendly.

I’m not worried. We will qualify for the playoffs, get a top 4 seed and face a team like Ukraine. An injury to Luka Modric and we are done.

@Denis soccer is 80 percent skill and 20 percent luck.Belgium was lucky not to be 2 down @ the first half against serbia in the first game.I agree about the concern about the mind set of the team.Maybe they will comeback stronger.We will see on monday against the porkchops…cro 2 por 1..

@Jack,

lol

I agree with you on the SMM Dzeko comparison.

@Lika Joey,

Its not just one shity game. Its one shitty result. The other games have been shitty too but we got the result.

How good is VP without service? VP is top 5 striker in the world. Dude scores from outside the box. He can create off the dribble and pass.

Mandzo is a freak in the air. I agree.

I’m more worried about the state of the team more so than the result. Before yesterday’s game, we got the results but without playing well and a lot of luck on our side.

Despite what everyone says that this is a difficult group, there is not one world class striker in the group.

@Denis:

Your comments are pretty solid, you should start your own Croatian sports site.

@Denis:

I agree about your assessment of SMM. He is like Dzeko or Mario Gomez. None are going to blow past defenders like Suarez.

SMM is a great #9, but at Bayern he has Kroos or Mueller behind him which we do not have. If we played like Bayern, I guess Eduardo or Kranjcar could approximate that role.

It is a shame that Eduardo’s career was compromised because he had that little spark. You can still see a glimpse of it when he has the ball at his feet.

Everyone on this site shits on Jelavic , but IMHO he has very similar attributes to SMM. His chosen team and league are not as flattering to him. I would love to see him in the Bundesliga at a team like Hamburg or Wolfburg.

For me Srna is world class, although he is aging. I would love to see him as right midfielder when Corluka is playing.

@JM,

I think only Modric is world class. A world class striker in my opinion can create his own shot. Just like in basketball. Open, set shooters in basketball are useless without service.

You mentioned the select players as replaceable, but Croatia doesn’t have many options.

Modric makes everyone around him better. Its like having Shaq on the lakers. All of a sudden you have players like Samaki Walker that look like all stars.

Please jm. Enough with your crap.

Just when you think you’ve hit rock bottom it can always get worse. Montenegro is in first place right now. In a few months they will finish third. Huge home loss to Ukraine. I have England topping the group with Ukraine finishing in second.

How about another Croatia-Ukraine playoff?

How many times even in the other qualifying games have we given up possession for a useless long ball. Who are we trying to be the english? We are pretty boring to watch I must admit. We had good times with Bilic in the Euro 2008 campaign and during Euro 2012, other than that we have been shit

Unbiased Scot, you are a gentleman!
I like the Scottish, Irish, and Welsh.
Even though we struggle with most British teams.
Why cant you guys play like the Italians?

Just how bad were things yesterday…….Even Mandza couldn’t score an Ivica Olic-type of goal, he even missed that.

We’ll see what happens with Portugal. I can’t imagine they will be up for the game either.

Prediction from me……I know how some of you love that FIFA ranking system…..BiH will above us in the FIFA rankings within the next 9 months.

This is all I have to say about Sammir….

http://i.minus.com/ib04xhnqH54QQM.gif

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@Unbiased Scot thank you for the kind words. Most of us are so pissed off right now it’s hard to think straight and for me personally it has NOTHING to do with Scotland. Your team played us brilliantly, the same way we played Spain.

The problem for me is Stimac from running his mouth, and making poor decisions based on money. I’ve played sports my entire life and some at a professional level. One thing you never did, especially against a team that on paper you should beat was run your mouth, because all that does is bring out the final 10% and bring out a pissed off attitude from your competitors. And the things that Stimac said pissed off the Scots, and to their credit they said fuck you and gave Croatia a game. To that I say GOOD FOR THEM.

Stimac and the Mamic mafia need to go. I’d beg Bilic to come back at this point.

In other exciting news, Croatia sucks the EU shlong and outlaws docking and cropping of dogs. I’ve been considering moving back and taking my working line dobermanns with me and starting up a dog kennel. Now I can’t even make my dogs look like dobermanns, and why you might ask? MONEY. Croatian politicians are so damn corrupt that they’d do anything to enter the EU to stand on the EU Titanic and sink Croatia for their own benefit.

@Mate:

I thought Perisic had a poor game. Although he has huge potential.

I still haven’t seen much from Sammir.

I ran off with my mouth this week.I’m paying the price now!I can’t even go to my gym in torornto today with out hearing it.Scott the scot,brother congrats! Let’s not get carried away!Belgium is a great squad…there defense and goalie is better than ours…our midfield and attack is on the same level or maybe better…a motivated croatia is a force you can’t and don’t want to fuck with.I hope we get england in a playoff…turkey was sweet! That would be even better!!

Damn, this is a good example of ye of little faith. Relax, have a coffee, smoke a cigarette. Should put some of you guys on suicide watch.

We lost one game we should have won, it happens. If we beat Belgium you guys will be back on the Croatia being one of the best in the world bit. Nothing’s changed, played poorly and lost, it happens. Does it suck, yea, but wait and see where this goes, I’m sure most of us still believe we ll qualify for the WC. As to our result there, we ll have to solidify our game quite a bit to do some damage, but it’s possible.

Ziva, I generally like your comments, but just realize its easy to be negative and talk shit, much harder to think of something really constructive. With that said, continue, generally you say some funny shit

Ignore my fellow compatriot “Scott the Scot” – he’s an idiot.

The only way it was possible for us to beat Croatia was for you to play terribly and us score on the counter or by fluke – which happened.

Whilst I am elated at the result, I am also aware we lack the ability to consistently perform at a high level which is purely down to the fact we have no talent. This is a period of transformation for Scotland.

I’ve always had a soft spot for Croatia and I hope you qualify. We seem to take points from teams when we are underdogs so who knows, we Belgium may slip up at hampden. You just never know in football.

Things I learned yesterday:

1. Never assume anything in the world of sports.

2. Americans can’t hold their liquor, and they will piss on the floor if they are too drunk to aim for the toilet.

3. Croats can generally hold their liquor, but ending the night by killing a bottle of sljivovica in one round of shots because everyone is still pissed about the game is not a good idea.

I read the comments and 90 per cent of them are too emotional. I’m sure you’ll think diffenrently in a few day.

Ziva had the time of his life. This time it was Sammir and the savez. If they’re gone, he’ll find something new to shit on.

Comment of the day was Iggy’s “Im sad”. That says it all.

Consider:

Sports – Croatia is in lock-step with the rest of the globalized world that places money ahead of all things that really matter. Values.

Politics – the Croats are a decimated people that survive biologically by the skin of their teeth. They are on the edge of extinction. Croatia is a polygon for foreign espionage, psychological warfare and 5th column occupation. We were fools to think that a people that suffered genocide, democide and culturecide perpetrated for 45 years by Tito’s Yugoslav partizans could overcome such adversity. It’s simply not possible. And the short episode of political and military brilliance in the 90s was an aberration.

Nothing short of a miracle can help that nation survive. Why are contemporary Croats so corruptible, so inclined to destroy eachother and so hell-bent on hating their identity?

The answer? Negative selection, and a nation with people that had the inconvenience of turning Croatian practically overnight. Credit to Dr. Tom Sunic. He couldn’t have said it better.

“Slucajni Hrvati.” The paradoxical and absurd nation, of which football is simply a reflection.

To say Scotland played better than Croatia is taking it a step too far, Scotland played better than they were expected to, but not better than Croatia. Having said that, Croatia played awful. 1 shot on target?! This is something I have repeatedly highlighted, Croatia DO NOT make any clear cut chances! The last clear cut chance I remember was against Israel after they had a player sent off.

I now understand why Perisic was sold and why he isn’t one of the top players at Wolfsburg. I’ve also had enough of Strinic, we need to experiment with new left backs. Sammir is a donkey, he wouldn’t have played had Modric been around anyway. Olic’s time is up, he should never have started against Scotland, this was not supposed to be a game for fighters and work-horses, this was supposed to be a game of pure control and one way traffic, Eduardo needed to start. I have been a critic of Rakitic from way back. I just don’t see what he does for the team apart from his top quality set piece taking, however his corners yesterday were appalling.

The problem with chance creation is not a new problem, it was there with Bilic and it has continued with Stimac. We just can’t create clear cut chances. I’m slightly concerned that we may not win any of our final three games. Still a long time away, who knows what the new season will hold. At any rate, we should be comfortable in a play-off situation if that is our fate.

@Ziva:

The Church is not a museum for saints, but rather a hospital for the wounded. I do not know what remorse Stimac has in his heart.

Matthew 7:3

I don’t him expect him to be divine or a saint. I expect him to lead the HNS to victory.

Your logic is flawed. Essentially you said we need to let them talk smack and drink or else they will be partying with hookers.

Set expectations and enforce them.

I follow both the HNS and the USMNT and they both infuriate me in different ways. The Americans are hard working and tenacious, but lack true quality.

The HNS seems to mail in some of their performances.

The FIFA ranking is a formula – a formula which is the same for all countries. It is heavily weighted on the most current results and strength of opponent.

It s not someone’s opinion on how a team is playing nor does at look at who has won or did well in major tournaments in history.

So, how can anyone criticize Croatia’s 4th place ranking?

This is Croatia’s first loss in qualifying. The following countries have one or more losses in qualifying:

Serbia, Wales, Macedonia, Scotland, Czech Republic, Denmark, Armenia, Malta, Austria, Sweden, Ireland, Kazakhstan, Faroe Islands, Hungary, Romania, Turkey, Estonia, Andorra, Iceland, Albania, Norway, Cyprus, Slovenia, Russia, Israel, Portugal, Northern Ireland, Azerbaijan, Luxembourgh, Greece, Slovakia, Lithuania, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Montenegro, Poland, Ukraine, Moldova, SanMarino, France, Georgia, Belarus and Finland.

There is no extra prize for being the best team in qualification. Really does not matter how you qualify.

@capitals55……jelavic did not come in because he was injured, plus he cant produce. Kalinic outplayed him by a wide range in training.

Anyone else find it comical Stimac walks around with a rosary? This from a man who cheated on his wife, fathered a bastard child and has been involved in numerous suspicious activities from the moment he stopped playing.

Plus, I wonder how many text messages the half mujo Halilovic has received from members of the BiH national team telling him its not too late to change his mind if he wants a reserved ticket on Air Bosna to Brazil.

@Toni…….little do you know….

OK, let me throw this out to you guys…..All of you know my stance on Mamic and Puppet Suker. If it would guarantee cleaning up the savez, would you guys be OK with missing out on the World Cup if it somehow led to the removal of Mamic and Puppet Sukker from the scene. I know this all hypothetical, but I would be more than willing to miss out on the WC if it would lead to new leadership, get rid of the criminal element and more transparency with HNS.

I love Hrvatska so much that I would be willing to miss out on the WC to rid these fools. Now, I know this wont happen because Mamic aint leaving the scene short of death.

After sleeping on this debacle, we once again played down to our opponents. I thought Kovacic was invisible and played to deep for us. Rakitic and Srna’s set pieces and crosses were off the mark all day and thats something we depend on for much of our offense, especially when modric is not playing. I dont understand Stimac’s last two subs. Ill take an out of form Jelavic over a red hot Kalinic any day. Than taking off Mandzukic with a few minutes to go, when hes our only hope at winning a cross or corner just doesnt make sense. Give credit to Eduardo, whenever he gets a chance to play he seems to make good things happen. Also did anyone notice that Olic was the only one that seemed to be in a hurry that second half whenever there was a throw in or dead ball. Everyone else just seemed to be strolling out there.
Lastly, im surprised that Belgium and us havent dropped more points. This has been our toughest qualifying group and we’ve had groups with Italy and England twice. There is no Andorra or San Marino to beat on. The minnows of our group are Scotland and Wales. Wales have what i believe is hands down the best all around player in the world and the Scots have a rich history of football with many that play in premier league. Still no excuse, we should beat Scotland on our own turf. It is looking like a playoff and we will probably get a seed with france, russia, and greece/sweden. Do not want any part of those countries. I can see us drawing Montenegro (who fucked up big time yesterday) in a playoff to add to the Balkan nail biters we have been part of.

@Jarac…..I never said they would lose this game. I have been against the savez.

I see meltdown mode is still going on….

So, now we have people claiming the team was partying leading up to the game…..hey, newsflash…..drinking a beer or two 6 nights before a game is not partying. Would you prefer the team stays in their room for 6 straight nights and does nothing. Fine, then they will be brining in hookers/prostitutes (because that does take place) nd partying with them all night.

We have way too many generals after the battle over here……now we have people complaining about too much parying, too much being said in the media before the match (comical) and every other excuse they can find.

If he was a decent prospect a Bundesliga club would have snatched him up by now.

We lost this. Scotland did not win this.

Stimac is the puppet.

Sammir is not good enough to be on the national team.

Frankly, I don’t think he is good enough for most national teams.

There is a bright side. Only 2 more Caps for Sammir before he has the required 5 for a sale to England.

Things I did not like about the game:

1. shit talking (although Bilic did it too)

2. drinking, partying and carousing before the game

3. Sammir playing at all. Ignoring the question if he is Croatian enough, it is clear that he is not NT calibre and his involvement is driven by organized crime.

4. Even without Luka, Corluka and Lovren we have a decent squad. This result was squandered. With all due respect to Scotland, there NT and “style” of play is shit.

5. Can’t help but think Mamic was betting against Croatia in some Asian betting parlor and forced Sammir in for another cap. It is a win-win for him.

Ziva ur full of shit, u didnt predict a loss. Noone saw this loss coming, u know why. Cause scotland fuckin sucks period. they suck. Croatia just sucked more, for reasons that should not have happened and that blame is put on HN$

I am enjoying the meltdown by the good many of you. Remeber, it was Ziva Istina (opps there I go again with the third person) and a few select others who warned you and keep warning you about the savez…..

This only goes to prove that Stimac is an idiot and the team has never improved since Bilic was managing.

Pretty sure 96% of you people are handicapped….

Croatia is a small proud nation that has outperformed based on population size. So has Scotland on many occassions in the past.

What small nations thrive on is when people say ” your not good enough – you’re cannon fodder – you’re weak etc”

Physically we are not weak – technically we are – but our hearts will never be weak. Learn some respect for you’re fellow small nations.

Ivan the Red, it is comical how you turn on the team after one bad result. Give me a break.

Nice going stimac, how was showcasing sammir to british TV work out for you?
Didn’t go as planned I suspect.

The Savez makes me sick to my stomach! Self interests and more concerned with the paycheck they will recieve, instead of the interest of the nation and fielding the best possible lineup to win.

How can we as supporters of the repka just throw our support and loyalalty towards slimy, crooked, self serving bastards that run it.

Well I for one am not going to blindly follow this corrupted Savez any longer, effective immediately.

Even if they manage to qualify, I will no longer follow the national team, until there is a major clean up, “I’m not holding my breath” heads should have rolled long ago, and they haven’t, things have just got worse.

No more I say.

Sammir go back to the ghetto, halilovic go play for bosna where you belong.

Croatian national team should be for Croatian players, not for transfer moves from D grade foreigners.

Savez I’m cutting you off like an infected limb.

Signed: Ivan the Red

We scots will take 3 more points of Croatia is what I’m feeling.

Belgium is a great team, and will be hard to stop, but anything is possible.

Belgium will cruise past you lot next time.

And I think your bitter rivals the Serbs might make a statement when they play in Belgrade against you guys.

Looks like 3 loses is in the cards for a team that was pretty arrogant a couple of days ago.

But hey look at the bright side Croatia atleast you know where you stand now. And who knows you might even be in the playoffs in November. Not that it will matter much. Atleast you can say we finished above ex-yugo buddy turned enemy Serbia.

Come on Scotland!

i could only watch the espn game cast but i knew there was something wrong when after 25 minutes, scotland had 60 percent possession. either a failure in tactics or lack of quality players possessing the midfield i would guess. didn’t see the game but would guess sammir falls in that category

hey scott, well done mate, you beat the pants of a cocky croatia, your gaffa had a tactically sound team today, if scotland can display a somewhat similar performance & actually play with pride V belgium, & possibly get the result, i will take my fu@” Hat of to scotland as a footballing nation,

Otherwise it’s just a flash in the pan performance against 1 arrogant squad, come on you scotts, grow some fu$@ balls & crush belgium

@mate
Our coach said Scotland would not cross over in our half and had no chance at victory. That is arrogance, that is stupidity. Just once I wish they would shut up and play to win. Fuck talk all you want after the game.

Still don’t think we were really being arrogant, this is one of the worst Scottish sides in recent memory, missing 11 players as well.

I know we re destined for second regardless, but smashing a truly arrogant team seems fitting. I say they’re arrogant bc one of the players said that only Spain and Germany have more quality than they do. Does that seem true in any stretch of reality?

Actually pretty strong tactics on Scotland’s side. Pack the middle and play to their strength in the air. Only two or three times in the game that we played it long to mandzo and he was able to control and play off to someone. The only strength British sides really have is in the air.

We had to break them down on the ground and couldn’t to our own fault

Nothing to do with arrogance, Scotland had a shit campaign until now, people called it like it was. We couldn’t get it going today especially with chances ON goal. Never got the attack horribly organized, introducing a fourth striker with three attacking midfielders didn’t help that. Again, no balance. Better off starting Eduardo or kranjcar behind mandzo, with badelj and Mateo completing the box in front of the central defenders. Mateo is an attacking midfielder. Started the game with two forwards, four attacking midfielders, two line to line outside defenders.

Fuck that reference to Tito, black zodiac post all those jugos.

Not gonna lie …

I am laughing it up with the comments on Stimac’s fb page.

https://www.facebook.com/igor.stimac.officialpage

Lol.

LOL how do you know a jew. They never answer a question and they try and have strawman arguments. You’re an idiot.

All you dikheads saying relax its good, we’ll be in the w.c.
Bullshit relax. we’ve been using up our luck too much. this is the reality. whos to blame. stimac. What is his coaching exp?
Fukn nill. You all dont see it. you guys are the band playing on the titanic. sack stimac and get an experienced coach before its too late. we are not playing to our full potential.

@ Mishko
Ok, thanks for the invitation. Post your address.
Oh, & by the way, it’s Crna Legija, not Crna Legion, but not surprisingly you got the “Crna” part right.

@Anonymous,
Actually, my family killed all the jews in our village (in Croatia, where I WAS BORN) but we won’t get into that. Quite frankly, I don’t know who or what you’re talking about because the repka is so pathetically boring that I stopped watching them back in ’98. Yea, yea ‘LONG LIVE CROATIA’–with all thanks to the likes of you, majmune.

@ Stipe

I played/coached basketball my whole life. I enjoy watching soccer, especially the repka.

I saw us get roughed up today against Scotland.

Stimac needs to put out the players he feels are going to compete for the flag and have us beat the Scottish minor league team.

1st place on the line and we lay an egg at home ?

In game adjustments are throwing out strikers and hope we score?

It seems that the captain band is meaningful in nogomet.

Srna looks tired. His time as a field general are over. The captain needs to bring the team together.

Modric and Corluka are 1-2 in my book as potential captains.

Rakitic looked like sranje today. On a day we need him to step up, he falls off.

Please make wholesale changes for Portugal.

You do realize if Tito and his party did not exist the league of nations would have appointed the Chetnik party as the successors of the Yugoslav region.

I applaud this man for protecting Croats from Chetniks, Italians who would have divided up our country and Germans who saw us as the slightly acceptable puppet slave.

Yugoslavia protected all the Balkans after the war from being over run by foreign powers. The downfall was the civil war 11 years after Tito’s death.

He was a hero of his time, just like Ante Gotovina was a hero during our civil war. Two individuals I highly respect.

………………………………………………………..

Black Zodiac you are a joke and always a good laugh. 🙂

Well if scotland finishes last at least the loss wont count for the 2nd place table!

Belgium has Wales, Us, and Scotland.

nvm, that one is updated….did not realize games against last place are dropped.

Please enough all you know it alls. Like jm, ivica etc. Sure we are going to humiliate them, score a bunch of goals. Suddenly everyone is quiet. This is what happens when the players are lazy and think they have the win before the game starts.

The best party is seeing Stimac with a rosary in his hand. Like Gospa cares who wins. Plus Stimac is the least guy who should be holding a rosary. Dude needs a year of confession.

So as it stands among 2nd place teams:

Croatia: 16 pts (from 7 games)
Russia: 12 pts (from 5 games)
England: 12 pts (from 6 games)
Hungary: 11 pts (from 6 games)
———
France: 10 pts (from 5 games)
Greece: 10 pts (from 5 games)
Bulgaria: 10 pts (from 6 games)
Albania: 10 pts (from 6 games)
———-
Austria: 8 pts (from 5 games)

Now lets assume that all teams are at 7 games. And that they have won all the games up to the 7th game.

Sweden 17 pts (overtakes Austria for 2nd)
Croatia: 16 pts
Greece: 16 pts
France: 16 pts
————
England: 15 pts
Portugal (Russia would be 1st): 14 pts
Hungary: 14 pts
————-
Bulgaria: 13pts/Albania 13pts

I believe the top four have a random draw against the bottom four, with the worst second place team eliminated? I don’t like how it looks, no easy playoff!

Ja sam rođen kao pobjednik i iz ove priče ću izaći kao kurac.

-Igor Stimac

I predicted a 3-0 win a day before I saw the starting lineup with Sammir in central midfield. If I knew that he would start I would have called a draw. Our passing was awful, we relied too much on Srna on the right flank for too many attacks. Kovacic pulled the trigger when he should have threaded the ball a la Modric. Mandzu was unlucky on the bounce of that Olic cross. Kalinic was brought in to further flatten some grass blades. The Scots put in as bad of a performance to get 3 points as I have ever seen.More than a few Croats were slipping like they were on ice. No metal studs on their cleats?

Chachatvoj hahaha

Almost as good as google translate.

Fucking Yankees.

Well….Italy can’t beat us, and we can’t beat Scotland. Everyone has that team that has their number.

http://www.vecernji.hr/sport/vijesti/rakitic-ovakav-poraz-nam-se-nikad-vise-ne-smije-dogoditi-clanak-566385

Rakitić: Ovakav poraz nam se nikad više ne smije dogoditi.

No shit sherlock.

Hats off to the scot’s, they did their job, and they did it well

I think I prefer losing against the Scots. They seem like a stand up bunch. They fought honorably and didn’t waste time like a bunch of pussies crawling on the field. I’m sure the Scots and Croats are having a good time partying together, now in Zagreb.

Look let’s not single out Sammir here. Every player played bad. Ok Sammir shouldn’t have started, but even with him on the pitch we should have beaten the Scots.

We got cocky, we were lethargic, we didn’t have any fire, we didn’t have any bite, what did you expect would happen?

guys fucking relax……we lost, thats the game lol….. all you “analysts” out there on this site…relax man…..i played nogomet all my life, its fuckin human nature to not put ur all in against a team who is bottom of the group, Belgium could lost point to Scotland, its possible, everyone relax, go get laid tonight….Croatia will be in the WC next summer, its all good,,,,even if we dont win the group, which we prolly wont, we go to the play-offs, and we will win….thats that

Worst time to play a friendly now as well. What’s the point of playing Portugal on Monday?

hey, at least Dinamo won the title again!!!

maybe one day I’ll be captain too…

We don’t deserve a top 10 ranking and we don’t deserve to be in the world cup at this point.

Couldn’t beat Scotland and struggled against Wales and Macedonia and had two gifted goals by the serbs to give us a 2-0 win over them. Seems to me we are very overated and over valued as a team. Best result so far was the tie in Belgium. Looking back at that, that was a great result for us.

Ziva,

Ziva,

Ziva,
You have the time of your life, haven’t you? Well, please do enjoy it.

I don’t worry. We still have 50 per cent to make it to Brazil in the play off system. Even if with 3 points today, I didn’t see us beat the Belgians in Zagreb anyway.

For everybody that thought Croatia would win by multiple goals – shame on you.

When is the last time that Croatia has skunked an opponent? Weren’t they trailing to Malta at halftime in the last qualifying campaign?

I will say this. Today’s match was completely unprofessional. From going out drinking, talking so confidently in the press and then doing nothing to back up their words. When will Croatia learn that there is no such thing as a guaranteed win. Whether you are playing a depleted Scottish team, travelling to Georgia or scoring in 119 minute vs. Turkey. What you do – put your head down and keep playing until the final whistle.

Finally – Sammir does not work. Here’s an interesting statistic. Croatia has conceded two goals and scored none while Sammir is on the field in competitive matches. They were down 1-0 to Wales until he was removed and they promptly scored 2 goals. Today – well you guys know the story.

Guys, relax, its all good. We are still in the top 10 of the FIFA rankings (well, maybe not after this loss).

Maybe our mujo neighbors from BiH will send us a postcard from Brazil.

@nepoznat ….huh?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9ZTuI39SBc

Don’t base how good he is by his league play. The guy fits in perfectly and finished more often than not, which is what we needed in this game. Kalinic is govno compared to jelavic, Without that win vs macedonia we wouldn’t even be behind Bulgaria in the standings.

The lost one game, chillax it is a long qualifying campaign and they can still qualify for the WC.

Beyond that, I have no specific international conspiracy theories to offer that you so brilliantly cared to share with everyone.

My point simply was in responding to your rant, that any person in 2013 that judges a man solely on the basis of the colour of his skin is of low intellect. I stand by my assertion.

Now go ahead and tell me what a great Croatian you are for your commentary.

@dannyj……..cap halilovic for what reason??????? so he is tied up to Cro forever. Stimac did the right thing by not playing him. Kid is not ready to play. if he was, he would have played. Stimac showed balls in starting Kovacic and Radosevic already in big games, so the evidence is there to suggest he will play a kid if he warrants playing.

And now people are crying about the team being in Hercegovina last week. Funny, I don’t recall anyone complaining last week. Seems like everyone had no issue with them being up there. And lets stop with the “see, they were drinking beer in hercegovina”. It was a week before the game and its not like they were pounding beer.

Sometimes games like this happen. And they are easier to stomach when you have no rooting intertest in the outcome (thanks again Sammir).

@Sude Mi, what brilliance do you have to offer comrade?

This as in i agree with everything Ziva Istina said, guy tells it like it is.

Mishko says:
@Sudi Mi, I’ve been alive for over 48 years you silly bitch. I’ve lived through Yugo life, Amerikwan life and see what’s going on globally via politics and forced integration especially Europe and and the Kwa. This whole bullshit with the negro playing 90 minutes, especially since he was a pile of shit within the first 15 minutes just showed that this game was a fix, both politically and financially. If I was involved with Croatian Soccer and could do. i would shoot both Stimac and Mamic in the morning before the sun comes up. Hell make it look like a suicide like the do in the U.S. 2 in the back of the head.

Thank you for further demonstrating your limited intellect.

Carry on.

Without the duo (chor)luka’s we are nothing. Our repka needs a new coach.

@ziva Istina

this.

@Sudi Mi, I’ve been alive for over 48 years you silly bitch. I’ve lived through Yugo life, Amerikwan life and see what’s going on globally via politics and forced integration especially Europe and and the Kwa. This whole bullshit with the negro playing 90 minutes, especially since he was a pile of shit within the first 15 minutes just showed that this game was a fix, both politically and financially. If I was involved with Croatian Soccer and could do. i would shoot both Stimac and Mamic in the morning before the sun comes up. Hell make it look like a suicide like the do in the U.S. 2 in the back of the head.

halilovic is thinking i wish i were bosnian… oh wait i am, jump ship

fuckin pizdarija, anyone who is (or was) a sammir fan needs to rethink their life and their morals.

Velika Sramota.

Good bye Brazil.

Who knows, maybe Belgium will drop some points against Scotland in September. Strachan is doing a good job and coming off this win the Scots will be really motivated.

Scots were being too physical and scrapy. We should have had a bona-fide defensive mid like Badelj or Vukojevic in there to fight with the Scots.

Rakitic, Kovacic, Badelj/Vukojevic, Perisic would have been better. Sammir starting was too offensive for a scrapy physical opponent.

We have to swallow this loss and just look forward. We’ll need to take a few points from the next two games in order to make it to the play-offs as one of the top 8 second placed teams. At least we’ll have a chance to qualify. Ajde Hrvatska!!!

Kalinic coming in was a joke right? This team doesn’t deserve second place with the way they’ve been playing. But we can’t be surprised. This has been the typical storyline since forever: win a big game and get disappointed against an inferior opponent. We should’ve lost the Wales game. This was just a disaster in the making.

Igor made a mistake putting in so much attack. We didnt have enough control in the midfield. Sammir tried and did nothing well. Strinic was terrible, Vida should play LB. Kovacic played well but wasn’t able to create anything.

Major mistake was adding more attack during the second half.
Should have played a 4-2-3-1 or a 3-5-2 to keep a strong midfield.

WHY IS NOOONE FUCKING SHOOTING EVER!!!

that was attrocious. sammir…………. speechless….
kalinic…… you got to be fucking kidding me.
that was pathetic..

So much for making up goal difference. Even if we win the rest of our games, we are AT LEAST 5 goals behind belgium.

Croatia have not learn yet how to play against bunker teams another fucking bad result.

If the team is going to play as shit as today better don’t get a spot in the WC, this slow possesion ball style sucks.

Say goodbye to the hope of get the first place.

VOLITE MAMICA
VOLITE STIMACA
VOLITE SUKERA
HOCETE SAMMIRA
A MI DAMIRA!!!

JEBO VAS MAMIC I HN$

Sammir played awful in the 1st half, but actually was one of our better attack minded players in the 2nd half. With that said, why the fuck did he start in the first place?

Either way, what a fucking debacle.

Everyone was downplaying the Scots in the media. We got what we deserved.

@ Double D, don’t be like that, maybe he’s make a commission from Mamic for trying to sell the pet.

Fuck stimac. bilic wldnt have played like this.

Looks like the Stimac honeymoon is over.

This Scotland loss is only the second ever that Croatia has ever lost at home in a competitive match.

Couple this with the prior game against Wales, and with those very tight Macedonia wins…and the media will start to openly question Stimac’s results.

We should be back where we belong in those FIFA ranking real soon..

lol cousinbilo, was thinking the same

Lol watch Halilovic be like “ummm, nevermind. I think I’ll go play with the guys who are actually gonna qualify”

We should have played bunker today since without Luka we are shit.

For scotland this is like winning the world cup.

GARBAGE

10 guys behind the ball for scotland. and we cannot pass to save our fucking lives. not going to score today.

Disgrace

The reffing’s been shit!
For both teams.

AHAHAHAHA number 4 in the world is getting worked like a rib in Compton.

No fucking Allen today?

we’ll still have a chance through the playoff, we’ll play a better squad and hopefully show up and play to that level

Same old shit. When you play bums like Olic and Sammir, this is what happens.

Wow we will miss another WC.

#1 rule for corners. Get it over the 1st fucking defender

the scots are showing what you can do with average talent and playing and sticking to a system
never pretty but that kind of shit works

we are showing its going to be confident but never to be cocky

Even Mando misses. WTF. To much drinking, fucking and shit talking this week.

Mishko says:
@Sude Mi go fuck yourself

Mouth breathers unite…rock on brother. LOL

Jesus, they all have bricks for feet.

You know what the best thing about banging your head against the wall is? When you stop.

Give it a rest with the Sammir complaining, it is what it is……

Finally, we need someone with some fucking finesse.

Fourth in the World? GTFO.

all our crosses in today have been shit

FUCK!

Oh hey….lets all fucking pass the ball to scotland!

How long before we pull the goalie.

REALLY…I HAVE TO WATCH MORE OF SAMMIR.

someone give me some numbers, what happens if the unthinkable happens, we come out with a loss and belgium win

guess we would be completely screwed even beating belgium cause they would most certainly have better goal differential

Kompany bleeding all over the place. Lets hope for a broken nose.

Thats what I also noticed CousinBilo, i thought i was watching ice hockey…

At least Serbia and Belgium play the ball to each others feet. Croatia looks like the are playing on ice. Out of control

@Mishko- True

Srna has a Scottish girlfriend

Hey at least the Serbians don’t have niggers on their team.

> THE GOD OF HALILOVIC <
sammir out ,,, Halilovic (our God) in !!

The sunset looks nice. And that should be the last picture of Croatia once it joins the EU. FINISHED.

Ahahahaha, I hate this but I love it at the same time;

The mafia pushing their boy for money on the backs of the national team.

We have not won one cross in their box, time to try something new.

Fucking pilsbury dough boy sammir

See my little monkey run!?!?!

@Mainzfeldski true but no one has sucked more than your pet.

Even with Sammir, nearly every Cro player hasn’t impressed me.

Simunic and Schildenfeld could have been separated at birth…

just look so lost without modric
also i believe the way scotland plays very hard to get flow… kind of like neutral zone trap in hockey

but fuck me, if we don’t score soon, im going to shit my pants

seriously though, we don’t need any more of that sammir. i have old underwear with more use then him

Perisic….enough with the 40 yard strikes

BREAKING NEWS – Stimac makes Sammir the captain of the Croatian NT. Believe it bitches.

I dont understand. we cant keep the ball on the ground? every pass we make is bouncing to the player’s knees. fucking garbage! everything is so out of control.

DAMN IT, I’m watching on ESPN3 via xbox and there’s a delay. This negro is horrible.

After that, Sammir won’t start another game right? When will this comedy show end, I’m sick of it.

LMMFAO, nice open goal Sammir

WHY THE FUCK IS SAMMIR PLAYING
terrible

OH MY GOD. PLEASE FOR GODS SAKE TAKE HIM OUT.

@Anonymous

Stop being such a pussy.

Now we need to score two to win. And so much for trying to make up on the goal differential.

Shut up Black Zodiac. You are the biggest jugo on this site. Go away.

Yeah Pleti is done

Actually it was SRNA with the great pass

Time for Kevela lol!

nvm that was Srna.

I swear watching Croatia WC qualifiers is like watching a bunch of 35 year olds playing a game at a park. So dull and no fire in the team.

Scotland is missing how many key players?

Did Sammir knock that ball on to the scottish guy?

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

ALL OF THAT BECAUSE SAMMIR CANNOT WIN A TACKLE

@ nije

i can’t see us getting fined for that chant… and if we do, it would make me sick to my stomach

wait let me guess, we can’t chant “u boj u boj za naord svoj” either…

This is the cult of the multicultural shit heads. However, in France there is one less of them.

Is the crowd saying “Jebi Scotland”

Maybe Sammir is a Black Scot, like Black Irish. LMAO

JESUS FUCK SAMMIR

Sammir has no business on this team at all.

@Mishko at least there is one less antifa in the world 😉

Sammir is a terrible soccer player. We’re currently down a man with him on the field

Watching Sammir play is like watching 2 fat chicks try to fuck.

Can anyone tell me why Joe isn’t playing for a EPL team? The man has always been a rock.

The same guy that wouldn’t go to a free game with 20,000 die hard supporters!

Looks like a good crowd turnout. Who was the dumbass saying there were only 6k tickets sold.

@Joe, or he does a back flip and snaps his head right off. We can hope.

@CousinBilo
I know right!?
Olic, and Kovacic suck?
That man knows nothing about our team.

Kovacic keeping Luka’s #10 nice and warm for him.

@nepoznat, oh ok. But did you see Badelj play for the NT last time. It was ugly. He’s been out of form longer than Jelavic.

BTW – You never mentioned Badelj in you original comment so I’m not sure where anyone reading would have gotten the impression that you were saying that you would put him in over both of them.

Who knows maybe I’m just a nationalist that can’t read. (Puts on flame suit for the antifa brainwashed Croats)

@ corupt . i agree. i think its a pretty risky move. next year will be a historic draft class potentially unlike this year which is relatively weak. saric will likely even see his fellow countryman hezonja get drafted ahead of him next year. if he wants to stay in croatia and hone his skills, he can still do that if he gets drafted. that would actually be perfect for the macs who draft 13th and are really high on saric but want him to stay overseas for a year so that it doesn’t go against their cap to sign howard

FYI for the people working from home today or have access to XBOX you can get the ESPN3 app and watch the game on your televitz.

WOW, what a goal BIH. Fuckin golaso

Ziva Istina says:
“@ Double D…..Kranjcar is healthy. he needed some stiches a few days ago to head, but he is fine. only problem with him are the two cheeseburgers and can of Coke he was eating on the way into the stadium”

Was it a diet coke??

Perišić will score today. Hrvatska 3-1. Mandzo and Rakitic the other scorers

i wanna see The God of Halilovic show up !

Sammir should not be playing

Brett Favre does.

As ziva mi pichka said. Some stitches that’s all.

@ Double D…..Kranjcar is healthy. he needed some stiches a few days ago to head, but he is fine. only problem with him are the two cheeseburgers and can of Coke he was eating on the way into the stadium

Great line-up! Other than the black guy…

@Double D, my understand is that he could play from what I read yesterday.

Sammir is an avg player, shouldn’t even be on the bench. Does anyone know Kranjcar’s status?

Any chance on the Scottish Line up?

WHO IS SAMMIR?

Lineup announced: Hrvatska 4-4-2: Pletikosa – Srna, Schildenfeld, Šimunić, Strinić – Rakitić, Kovačić, Sammir, Perišić – Mandžukić, Olić

bur argh Aleksandar Holiga wrote it.

@Aussie

Shoot us a few pics through Twitter or something. Gotta see the view i’ll be missing out on for yet another summer. =(

In croatia for the summer going to a local cafic right on the beach to watch the game! Ajmo vatreni, uvijek vjerni!

“Herceg 6” Bitches

HRVATSKAAAAAAA!!!