Photo: DragoSopta/CROPIX
BBB outside Maksimir
Hated Dinamo Zagreb general manager, Zdravko Mamić, stated earlier this week that as of April 12th, 2011, he will no longer be the executive vice president of the club and would like to extend the managerial hierarchy at Dinamo. As over 1,000 Bad Blue Boys peacefully camped outside of Maksimir, Mamić shared the news, extended his thanks to the supporters and released Dinamo’s financial numbers for 2010. Mamić explained that the club made a profit of 29,022,434 Kuna, approximately $5.7 million.
To top things off, Dinamo also received a name change this week.
Earlier this year, club management increasingly began claiming that Dinamo is the direct descendant of Građanski (which had been founded in 1911) and finally decided to append the adjective “Građanski” to the club’s official name this week, turning it into the present-day GNK Dinamo Zagreb (Građanski nogometni klub Dinamo Zagreb or Dinamo Zagreb Citizens’ Football Club) and announced a grand celebration of the club’s centennial.
Građanski Zagreb (sometimes spelled Gradjanski or Gradanski), also known as 1. HŠK Građanski or fully Prvi hrvatski građanski športski klub (English: First Croatian Citizens’ Sports Club) was a Croatian football club established in Zagreb in 1911 and dissolved in 1945. The club was a huge influence on the development of football in Croatia and Kingdom of Yugoslavia and achieved greatest success in the period between the two World Wars.
In 1911, when Croatia was still part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, Građanski was founded in Zagreb by Andrija Mutafelija and a few of his friends in response to rumors that a football club that was meant to play in the Hungarian football league (as opposed to the Croatian Sports Union) was about to be established. Građanski was therefore founded as a multi-sports club with a distinctly Croatian identity intended to cater to citizens of Zagreb, with sections dedicated to football, handball and cycling. At first they used grounds in Zagreb’s neighbourhoods of Tuškanac, Martinovka and Kanal, until they built their own stadium at Koturaška street, which was officially opened in 1924 by Stjepan Radić, a prominent Croatian politician.
GRAĐANSKI LOGO
The club lost their first game to city rivals HAŠK (5-1) but it soon became very popular and widely supported by the Zagreb’s working class (in contrast to HAŠK, which was an academic sports club and was seen as an upper class club affiliated with the University of Zagreb and its students). In following years, a healthy rivalry developed between the two city clubs, and after the Kingdom of Yugoslavia First League was launched on a national level in 1923, Građanski’s greatest rivals outside Zagreb soon became BSK Belgrade and Hajduk Split. During the 1920s and 1930s Građanski became the most popular club in Zagreb as they won five Yugoslav championship titles (1923, 1926, 1928, 1937, 1940 and were runner-ups in 1925 and 1939).
Dinamo Zagreb was founded on 9 June 1945 in order to replace the three very popular Zagreb football clubs (HAŠK, Građanski and Concordia) which had been disbanded by the Yugoslav Communist Party following the end of World War II. Dinamo then entered the Yugoslav First League in its inaugural 1946–47 season, finishing as runners-up. In their second season in Yugoslav top flight in 1947–48 they finished as Yugoslav champions which was their first major trophy. The club won three more league titles and seven Yugoslav Cups before they left the Yugoslav league in 1991 amid the breakup of Yugoslavia and formation of the Croatian football league system. Dinamo are the only Croatian football club who have ever won European silverware, having won the 1966–67 Inter-Cities Fairs Cup by defeating Leeds United in the final. They have also finished runners-up in the same competition in 1963 when they lost to Valencia.
Amid political turmoil in the early 1990s the club began claiming direct lineage to pre-WWII clubs Građanski Zagreb and HAŠK. In order to reflect this in June 1991 it was renamed HAŠK Građanski and in February 1993 it was renamed again and became Croatia Zagreb. In February 2000 it reverted back to Dinamo.
Text taken from Wikipedia pages: Građanski and Dinamo Zagreb.
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You are my inhalation, I have few web logs and rarely run out from brand :). “He who controls the past commands the future. He who commands the future conquers the past.” by George Orwell.
Chicago Mark on the board! Thank you sir! You are #3, however, we will never treat you as a number here on CSR 🙂
Where are all the rest of you?
Toronto Rob on the board! Thank you sir! You are #2, however, we will never treat you as a number here on CSR 🙂
i agree, this is just the another way for dinamo, to crash the true 100 year anniversary of hajduk. They cannot stand that hajduk took away some of the limelight of 2011, dinamo think its their god given right to be the centre of attention at all times.
And yes its a damm shame, when a defender of croatias freedom gets 24 years for defending whats rightfully croatias land. Gotovina should be adimired and treated as a hero by the free world, not a war criminal, as these schmucks want people to believe, He shall always be a inspiratian to true Hrvavti every where. Pravi Heroj..
@ Denis – sorry but Ante B took the words right outta my mouth. I was waiting til this morning to give you the response you were looking for…last night i could only drop a line as i have 2 small kids and didn't have time to make a full response to your question!
I'm good with you being a Hajduk fan…I actually think its great…but it is very clear you and Ante K have a huge negative bias….nema veze, svako voli svoje…jeli tako?
regarding your comments about "Im sorry, I cant root for dinamo. That would be like a Lakers fan rooting for the Celtics. A dodgers fan rooting for the Giants. A Ducks fan rooting for the Kings. Ask a Barcelona fan if they root for Madrid" here's how I look at this…I may be very different than most! I live here in Canada and don't have as much exposure to daily life anymore in Croatia…so if I want to know something I have to call my family who live there, read online…or now, come to this site! So whenever I get news about Croatia or see someone that may be Croatian I immediately google it or try to find out more about the topic. I never care if the guy/girl/team is from Slavonija or wherever…I just wanna know if its related to Croatia. if so, I normally feel a little proud! you know…approximately 4.5 million people, great soccer, ok basketball, great water polo, handball, skiiers, tennis… shit, even high jump…at the end of the day I cheer for the Croatian…to je nas…on je Hrvat…you see…you see…Croatia is such a small country but has amazing athletes and accomplishments! THATS MY ONLY POINT Denis! I can wish the best for and cheer for Hajduk…Hajduk is a Croatian team with Hrvati…so I immediately like them…as a Croatian/Canadian I honestly don't ever have negative feelings about Hajduk! of course, if there was a derby I cheer for Dinamo, and would be pissed if we lose BUT I can handle it. My best friend it from Zadar…he's a HUGE Hajduk fan…its amazing just how much him and his family relate everything to Dalmacija and we razz each other all the time…sometimes it can get crazy but it never changes how I feel…as a Canadian, living here, I just wish the best for all our athletes and teams regardless of what part of Croatia they are from!
on another note, I think today is a sad day for Croatia…Ante Gotovina got 24 years! thats more important than our banter here…he was a true hero and its a shame! I'm speechless!
Denis,
"First, I would like to say that Ante and I are NOT biased for Hajduk."
-If Slavonac from Canada can see your bias towards Hajduk, then you know it's clearly evident. You guys are both bias for Hajduk. The mere fact and action of creating this wiki tragedy of an article proves it; sometimes it's the intent and not the content. Would you ever write an article on hajduk by copy and pasting wiki? Not a chance and neither would I as a dinamovac. I would do the research.
"For the most part, I think we covered Dinamo pretty well through Champions League qualification, Europa League and the HNL. Do we agree?"
-Agreed because WE all did it! You had a Hajduk guy write on Hajduk in Tom and me writing for Dinamo. Judging by the comments before they turned nasty in each of our articles, they are obviously well received.
"My only complain about this story was the timing. Why now? I have no problem for Dinamo turning 100. The official date is later this month I believe. Sure, lets write 3 posts celebrating Dinamo's 100."
-This is the second or third time you've complained about the timing of something. Brate it's not a space shuttle launch. You're an editor, do something about it. You also have a say in things. Don't be a lazy dalmatinac, I know it's in your genes 😉
"I can't root for Dinamo"
-Nobody said you had to in the first place but having a site called CroatianSoccerReport implies that the editors are authorities on the subject. Clearly you and Kvartuc are not and at least you're admitting it.
You guys are both bias towards Hajduk, to se vidi iz aviona. It's time to grasp it once and for all.
Someguy on the board! Thank you sir! You are #1, however, we will never treat you as a number here on CSR 🙂
@ Denis – thanks Denis…i just may do that!
I'm compiling a list of all Prva generacija and Druga generacija members. If all of you would be so kind and shoot me an email at:
Paluka81@yahoo.com
with:
1) Name on the site
2) City where you are writing us from
3) Prva generacija/Druga generacija/neither
4) Real name(optional)
Once we get the new website up and running, we will have a page for all the members on CSR. I understand that some of you would like to stay anonymous and that is fine. All we ask is that you pick a name and stick to it.
Ultimately, we want to eliminate this:
"I was in S Cal last month on business and tried to find a croatian restaurant… no luck"
~Slavonac from Canada
As our motto says:
"uniting Croatians around the world"
@Slavonac,
Dude, contact us next time you are in LA. Ante and I will show you around LA. Shoot me an email: paluka81@yahoo.com
Lastly, I want to say that I told Kvartuc, "I want no part in this article," because I am not an expert in Dinamo Zagreb history. As a matter of fact, I'm not an expert in Hajduk Split history as well.
We had some miscommunication with Ante B but rest assured that Ante B will continue to be our writer for anything Dinamo related.
First, I would like to say that Ante and I are NOT biased for Hajduk.
For the most part, I think we covered Dinamo pretty well through Champions League qualification, Europa League and the HNL. Do we agree?
Its easy for me to separate my love for Hajduk and write about Dinamo or something against Hajduk. If someone emailed us a story about Hajduk, bashing Hajduk, we would post it.
Some of you guys bring up Stimac and Hajduk…. that was years ago..
As far as, "Maybe Dinamo will light flares around Velesajam :)" That was a joke, confirmed by the " :)". does that make me biased?
My only complain about this story was the timing. Why now? I have no problem for Dinamo turning 100. The official date is later this month I believe. Sure, lets write 3 posts celebrating Dinamo's 100.
I dont even think I'm biased on Croatia. How many times have I bashed them on this site? How many times have some of you gone off on me for bashing them? For the most part, I say how it is.
I interviewed Igor Stimac a few years back and asked all the questions from both Hajduk and Dinamo fans here on the website.
I am a Hajduk fan. check. Does that mean we are Hajduksoccerreport.com? I really hope all of you dont see it that way. We went through this last year.
@Slavonac from Canada
"your little pot shots are laughable!"
"I take some of your jabs offensive."
"as much as you claim to be objective you are far from it!"
"you rightfully have to find reason to poke something at dinamo???"
I apologize if you found anything that I said offensive. Please do tell. what did I say?
Like I said before, I think the timing is off for Dinamo. Months after Hajduk turns 100? It just looks bad for Dinamo. Thats all I'm saying. If Dinamo did this 10 years ago, I wouldnt say anything. Was this an insult to hajduk? no. Was I offended as a Hajduk supporter? no.
"the community shouldn't be divided because of our regions and our love of regions and teams"
I agree.
1) when I used to watch Croatian games at Croatia Hall, "dalmatinci" "hajduk fans" would go off on croatian players because they play for Dinamo or are from zagreb.
2) On the Croatian fan bus going from Zagreb to Klagenfurt, Dalmatinci singing hajduk songs in the bus almost escalating into a fight.
3) Hajduk and Dinamo fans fighting at Croatia games.
No excuse for that.
" I'm not saying i am not guilty but i try not to be anti hajduk or anti anything croatian. "
Im sorry, I cant root for dinamo. That would be like a Lakers fan rooting for the Celtics. A dodgers fan rooting for the Giants. A Ducks fan rooting for the Kings. Ask a Barcelona fan if they root for Madrid. I wish all the best for the Croatian players on Dinamo and welcome them on Croatia. Even if Croatia was 100% Dinamo, I wouldnt complain.
@ziva istina
" If you want more credibility on dinamo and hajduk articles, I would suggest having writers, if possible, that have no rooting interest in either club. "
I agree. However, at the same time, I think that Ante B and Tom do an excellent job covering Hajduk and Dinamo.
my bad… i saw the spelling error…it said potajno but i should have guessed it was pojatno. we still have friends there …one of them came to Canada with my parents and then moved back there 15 years ago. he took me to a restaurant i cant exactly remember what town it was in (i believe in zagorje but not sure) but it looked like the wild west with a huge fence and lookout forts… the inside was amazing…out of a western movie…he said the beef was from alberta but i cant verify that!
i stayed in a hotel close to LAX…went to see customers in Gardena, Mira Loma, Ontario, Compton and several surrounding areas…i have to travel there for business so i dont always get the free time to do what i would like.
Um, dude, did you not read what I wrote? I have family in Pojatno and was there about a year ago! I have family in the next selo over, Bregovljani. Small world.
What part of So Cal are you in? In terms of restaurants, only place I know of down there is in San Pedro. Pavich Pizza and Ante's.
my parents lived in Pojatno…not sure if you've heard of it! and although i was born in Canada (the only one in my family) i was registered (upisen?)in Veliko Trgovisce.
I was in S Cal last month on business and tried to find a croatian restaurant… no luck…i also asked around for a Croatian Dom but nobody seemed to know if there was one and i didnt have much time to search around.
you mentioned Dakovo…i remember going there in 1991 just before the war started…i saw bullet holes at the church and there was a cafe owned by a Serb that was completely torched…croatian flags everywhere and the atmosphere was soo different from what i had remembered…it was great… i knew then hrvatska was on its way to freedom!
So the week or two weeks after the Dinamo-Hajduk game in Split, I made the trip to Gradski Vrt in Osijek to watch Dinamo-Osijek. Everything was great until I met the acquaintance of the policija there which didn't end up quite so nicely for yours truly. We went through Dakovo and stopped for some janjetina in a place called Nasice and spent some time with the BBB there, all solid guys.
In terms of Zagorje, very well aware. Some of my family lives up there in places like Veliko Trgovisce, Bregovljani, Potajno, etc. Every time we pass Kumrovec, we spit for obvious reasons. 5% of my time is in Zagorje and 95%in Zagreb. In terms of food, nobody in Croatia can match up to the slasticarne in Zagreb. Sidenote: best janjetina I had was in Slavonija and best svinjetina I had was in Perusic in Lika.
you ever been to Slavonija? we have great kulen. my parents lived in zagorje and my bro was born in zapresic…they say the best years of their lives were spent there…so i go to zagorje every time i go back…you know much about zagorje?
No debate from me on that. I'm sure the ratio of Hajduk to Dinamo fans in Dubrovnik is 99.9% for Hajduk. Just wanted to know if the Slavonce you lined you used is actually used in Slavonija. All good.
Ante B – i copied and pasted it…ooops! i'm not sure about Dubrovnik's fan base for Dinamo although i know there are many Hajduk fans there…i played in a town close to Dubrovnik several years ago against a team called Leotar (the town was Trebinje…a Serb town…i think its about 14 kms from Dubrovnik) and they were definitely Hajduk fans…Hajduk was everywhere, there was graffiti all over the walls supporting Hajduk! during that time i didnt think much of it but now lookning back i find it strange that a Serb town would cheer for Hajduk!
@Slavonac,
Regarding this line:
"Nek se pale baklje sve, za sve nas,za SLAVONCE…"
It's funny you bring up this line. Since you're obviously from Slavonija, do they actually sing this line there or did you just make it up? The reason I ask is because I have a friend from Dubrovnik who is a major Dinamo supporter. Weird, I know but Dubrovnik apparently has its fair share of dinamovci according to him. He was telling me that when he sings Dinamo Ja Volim, he substitues 'za sve nas, za Gaspare' in for Purgeri like you do with Slavonci…which is great and I have no problems with, even with my folks being from Zagreb. I just wanted to know if that was an authentic line that's actually sung in Slavonija or if you just came up with it. Let me know, hvala!
I JA BIT CU SA TOBOM I U NEBO KAD UDEM, JA DINAMO VOLIM JER ON MI JE SUDEN!
for every Hajduk fan on this site:
Popevke sam slagao i rozice brao,
I svu svoju mladost,sam tebi ja dao.
Hej, hej, hej…..
Navi,navijaj.Srusit ce se stadion.
Nek je nered,nek je lom .Ja te volim Dinamo.
Dinamooo.
I znaj da Bog,zna zasveto ime to,
Sveto ime Dinamo.
I u nebo s njim ,i u pakao ,
Bad Blue Boys-i i Dinamo.
Nek se pale baklje sve, za sve nas,
za Slavonce,
Jer na barjaku modrom,pise samo Dinamo.
Dinamoooo
I think this website is very good and I do appreciate the weekly updates from all leagues…no complaints…in fact i praise the organizers of this website for the info provided.
with regards to writing certain articles: I think a Hajduk fan will always do better at writing a Hajduk article…and a Hajduk fan (and not such a Dinamo supporter) who has little passion should stay away from the attempts and visa versa of writing a Dinamo article/story…although Ante K seems like a nice person its clear he has a hard time finding any positives in Dinamo and the organization! writing a story and then commenting on it with bias is not having much "journalistic integrity" as Ante B put it…how much effort was put into fact finding and how much effort would be put into fact finding for a Hajduk story?
nevertheless, this site has many good features and I like it…
"Dinamo ja volim"
I'll add this, and its a general statement. If you want more credibility on dinamo and hajduk articles, I would suggest having writers, if possible, that have no rooting interest in either club. When it comes to sports that I follow, I always get the best insight from reporters/columnist that can keep their rooting interest from appearing in what is written and reported.
For a website like this I know that is not possible because you are not paying people for content. At the end of the day the online viewers will determine if they like a product based on the number of page views and return visits.
I'm rootin for Schalke! Any one know the odds on them winning the CL? I bet you could have gotten great odds even after the final 16 were established.
Ya think Spurs woulda given Real a better tie had they signed Rakitic and Dzeko in the winter-transfer-window?
Did you see Jelevic's goal today? If that was Rooney, you'd see the highlight every other day for the next 8 months! I don't care if Rangers were playing St. Mary's of the Poor – that was a great fckn goal.
MAŠALA ANTE BBB MAŠALA
This obviously was not newsworthy to me or to most Dinamo supporters, especially to whose who consider themselves BBB. It was a prefix change equivalent to Hajduk;s š.d.d suffix. It was a FOOTNOTE, just like the protest yesterday and the strengthening of Mamic's power.
You didn't have to copy anything from Wiki since you had the history of Dinamo, HASK and Gradanski in my previous article.
That's not journalistic integrity.
Please do not write any more articles on Dinamo. If you say I'm the Dinamo writer then contact me or at least let me know. You've already did a disastrous job with a previous Dinamo article and this one is no exception. Please stop for the sake of me and the genuine dinamovci on CSR. We highly appreciate it.
@ Ante BBB,
I am not here to fight. Remember that I said that. We've hung out plenty of times and I enjoy your company, I hope this doesn't change and that we don't let our opinions on soccer separate that. But I only ask one thing from you. Please separate my administrative duties at CSR with my personal perception of Croatian soccer.
I re-read the above article just to make sure I didn't put any subjective claim in it- and I did not. The only time you see Hajduk in the article is when they mention that Hajduk and Belgrade were the main rivals, that's it!
What I put in the comments section is me being a follower of soccer and my personal opionion. I thought this was understood already. Apparently it was not.
Isn't it sad that this conversation will be the highlight of the HNL season, for me at least? We, as CSR Nation, have more spirit, pride and drive than the HNL does. Once again, don't respect the league in its current state.
Like I said before, I copied the entire Wiki verbage because I don't know enough to comment on Dinamo history by myself. The main reason for this: no Dinamo supporter on CSR took the initiative to write on the name change. I was under the impression that you, Ante BBB, would write Dinamo related articles for CSR. Is this not the case anymore? Please let me know. Also, what information in the above article is incorrect? I hear complaints but I do not hear corrections.
Also, during European play, I root for Dinamo. I root for Hajduk. I also root for Cibalia and Sibenik etc when they play in Europa League. Why? Because they are Croatian teams and anything that helps Croatian soccer I am for. Svircic gives be shit when I root for Dinamo in Europa, but it makes more sense to root for them than some team for Romania. Just as I am sure you root for Hajduk in the same situation 🙂
No harm, no foul. I get it. Sometimes I call a person a yugo to see their reaction without knowing their personal history. Most of the time it's their reaction to being called a yugo when you know they accept it or not. All in all, I'm all good. I accept your apology and offer my own. There are too little dinamovci on this site and of those, we shouldn't be fighting.
@ Ante Kvartuc…I dont wanna carry on soo much but i just wanaa tell you that yes, you do care..its evident in your comments. by the way…I love Zadar…its one of my favorite places in all of Hrvatska but there's something about those people there regarding their feelings towards Dinamo…its true!
the community shouldn't be divided because of our regions and our love of regions and teams…its when there is a lack of respect for the other that things become out of control. I'm not saying i am not guilty but i try not to be anti hajduk or anti anything croatian. i love every part of our culture including the differences in our dialects and regions…division is something that happens when one has a lack of respect for the other…dont you agree?
@ Ante B…my previous comments on this site may not have been respectful in the past but everyone has a breaking point. I have always felt that 2 croatians who are complete strangers have something in common. we could meet anywhere in the world and if we are the only 2 in a room full of others we can usually have a drink together unless of course one of us is an idiot! that said, i dont like some of the ways people get attacked on this site…i too am anti yugo and hate what that stands for…but i also hate when people make false claims especially when they don't know the person and their family history…it can be a very hard thing to swallow! i know from reading your posts you are a croatian…and so am i…and my family too…i have integrity as a croatian and i'm sure you do as well…the worst comes out of me when people call me a yugo if they dont know me or what i stand for…i do publicly apologize for what i said to you about your mother, it was embarassing to me and i should never have said the things i did…its not my character…accept my apology!
Not a chance you're going to hear a rebuttal coming from me with this wiki tragedy of an article and your blatant hajduk bias (in a DINAMO article) that is completely ostracising Dinamo supporters from taking this website remotely seriously. It is no wonder why I personally want less and less to do with CSR. I understand that the majority of readers are hajdukovci but you are only pandering to them now. I don't know if my favorite part is you asking what Hajduk supporters think in a Dinamo article or how many times the word Hajduk is brought up. We've talked about it before but hajduksoccerreport.com or, better yet INDEX-WEST.YU is coming really far. Please do us a favor and not let a hajdukovac, especially you Kvartuc, write an article about Dinamo. Reading this article and the comments is something akin to watching you attempt to pole vault at the Special Olympics. You know its retarded and you know you're gonna laugh when it's over.
Slavonac,
Your takes today were on par and dare I say actually correct. You've gained some respect that you lost from your previous comments in other posts.
@ Ziva,
I was ready for the Wiki criticism. However, I don't know nearly enough about Dinamo history to post it on my own. As everything on CSR, if there's something you don't like or disagree with, then it's up for debate. What's not accurate in the Wiki articles?
Where is Ante BBB on this one?
@ Slavonac,
Dude, I'm trying to tell you. I don't care! The only thing I find funny and worth talking about this season is how sensitive Dinamo/Hajduk supporters are about their clubs.
I have my administrative duties on CSR and then I have my fan perspective when I comment. "but it's hard to keep track when Dinamo changes their name every 3 years." Yes it's funny. Because it's true.
You think it's just coincidence that Dinamo change their name to Gradanski and link themselves to a club from 1911 the same year Hajduk turns 100? C'mon man! It's a power struggle, just like it is amongst other Croatian business men. It's not business, it's personal. They would take your last pair of underwear if they could. It's an Alpha dog thing…with no remorse.
I can go into this more….but why do you think the Croatian community is so divided in the states? Same story.
But don't worry, CSR to the rescue!
@ anonymous – bolje za koga? cigan!
Ne seri te ljudi bolje je bio dinamo kad je bila jugoslavija i hrvatska je nikad immala drzavu
@ ziva…for instance, why is the topic of dinamo celebrating 100 years such a coincidence??? denis's question was "How come this wasnt done 10 years ago?" followed up with a sarcastic "Maybe Dinamo will light flares around Velesajam :)" so now it just happens to have a direct relation to hajduk's celebration? (based on the flares comment this is what i understood…hajduk made a huge show for their celebration)
Ante's comment: "Dinamo changes their name every 3 years." well, i know the name has been changed but if i recall..not every 3 years which just confirms this as a sarcastic jab!…and then the comment about "But with that, how can Dinamo defend this so-called 100 year anniversary now that they are GNK?" defend what? i dont understand why this is about dinamo having to justify anything and how is this directly related to hajduk? "Is Dinamo trying to steal Hajduk's thunder?" i'm not so sure about that…dates are dates and if what's written in the article is factual this has nothing to due with hajduk. its just about the history of one of croatias most successful clubs.
i guess i can be perceived as weird but first and firemost i love croatia and soccer a lot! i of course have my favorites but from a 60,000 ft view i hope the best for all croatian teams to have some success…whether it be from a player development level or league and european success…even if the league sucks i like to read and see players do well and become successful regardless of a dinamo, hajduk or any other team player!
about mamic…i recently heard he has found loopholes in the system to legally not have to pay taxes…im not sure if its true, the guy that told me is is from zagreb, dislike mamic a lot but used to work for vecernji list! mamic definitely has a lot of influence over there…im not sure how but apparently its true!
@slavonac…..I'm not saying you are right or wrong. But, show some examples.
You might be dinamo fan and don't like what they are saying. Just like there are hajduk fans on this site that get pissed anytime they feel hajduk is being ripped.
Again, just show some eaxamples of what you think is a bias. Should they not report/comment about Mamic?
My criticsm of the dinamo report is using wikipedia as a source of info.
As for hajduk and Stimac…..the two are no longer affiliated. I'm Stimac's biggest critic and have said so on this site, but for the time being Stimac does not have a say in what is going on with hajduk. He funneled enough money from the Srna/Pletikosa sale to Ukraine.
Ziva, I was thinking the same thing.
@ Ante and denis:
I think you guys make your point loud and clear…you are dalmatinci, you support Hajduk and you have the conch…yes, you as moderators (owners or whatever) of this web page soo often try to appear unbiased but once something regarding Dinamo pops into question you show your colors! your little pot shots are laughable!
I take some of your jabs offensive. its very clear you have your favorites but i think you have gone out of your way to be petty, in fact i think its not much different than someone saying Licani are this and Slavonci are that…something i was criticized for a couple of months back!
as much as you claim to be objective you are far from it! i love Dinamo…but i will always like Hajduk, Osijek, Rijeka… you guys think because your parents are dalmatinci you rightfully have to find reason to poke something at dinamo??? lets talk about hajduk…about the organization…about stimac and his criminal ways.
Mamic actually increased his power with the club's name change and the way the new board is designed. If was a fan of that club I would continue to be pissed with his hold on power. I know a majority of the fans want a change, but there is no alternative opposition who has the political will and power to challenge Mamic.
Ante K, to answer your question about the 6 million dollar profit, if it is indeed a 6 million profit than that is a good business on dinamo's part. But, I seriously doubt those numbers are legit. It's not like Mamic is required to hire an independent accounting firm to audit the club's books. When you are the alpha and omega of the club, you are free to doctor the books.
Dinamo does not have a big sponsor, did not play in the Champions League and actually spent their own money to bring fans to the games. The revenue from HRT is minimal. So, unless I am forgetting about a player they sold last year, that 6 million is not legit. How he came u with the 6 million is a mystery to me. But, that is not the big news from yesterday. Mamic tightened his control yesterday.
It's official "Gypsy Nogometni Klub"… what a glorious day.
– Klokan
Denis,
I think they were Gradanski before, I dont know when, but it's hard to keep track when Dinamo changes their name every 3 years.
Let me preface what I'm about to say about Dinamo's centennial with this. Yes, my family is from Zadar and I was a raised to support Hajduk as a Dalmatinac, however, I DO NOT have respect for the league until it becomes watchable again and gets cleaned up. I report on the HNL because I have to, as a CSR administrator, it's not by choice.
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I can't wait to see what the Hajduk supporters on CSR think about this move. Poor Ante BBB got so much lip from everyone for writing the Dinamo article right after 'Hajduk's 100th' weekend. Even if you were completely against the timing of the article, let's find it in our Croatian hearts to give the guy some slack.
But with that, how can Dinamo defend this so-called 100 year anniversary now that they are GNK?
Is Dinamo trying to steal Hajduk's thunder? The obvious answer is yes! Stevie Wonder can see that.
Now, Dinamo banking just under $6 million. I can't really tell if that's something or nothing for the club. No fans at games, little national TV ad revenue and a chairman who is obviously pocketing money. How much could the 6 Europa League games got Dinamo?
Why would Mamic go out publicly like that and reveal the figure with so much pride?
Ziva I'm looking at you on this one. Even if it was a legit 6 mill, is that something Dinamo should be proud of?
I understand that "Dinamo is the direct descendant of Građanski" but what I dont understand is why Dinamo waited a month after Hajduk turned 100? How come this wasnt done 10 years ago? Maybe Dinamo will light flares around Velesajam 🙂