Written By Ivan Malilug
This is my first report so please don’t be hard on me; and my mistakes in English.
7:30PM: I go down to the tram at the Stade de France station. There are lots of policeman at the station and they are looking for Croatian supporters. One of them saw my Croatian jersey under my jacket, then three policeman quickly go on me. I explain that I live in France and am a Croatian supporter- but not part of BBB or Torcida.
CROATIAN FANS HEAD TO THE STADIUM UNDER ESCORT
Near the stadium there are two pubs: one with French supporters and one with Croatians. Only Vatreni are singing! After a pivo, I go to my place in the stadium.
Croatians players are presented by speaker; and French supporters only know to whistle…
CROATIAN FLARES LIGHT UP EARLY IN THE 2ND HALF
At halftime, French DJ Martin Solveig debuted his new video clip, with the new French Jersey. Pivo Time.
Good game for me, I was really surprised by Pletikosa, after two years without playing. He’s still good!
I think we did good on attack but France was saved by goalie Lloris. I’m disappointed about Srna, he made too many mistakes. It’s a game to forget.
Anyway thank you for reading me, sorry again for my English language.
A NICE COLD BEER TO END THE DAY
Ante B, back in the mix. "Alright, alright, alright…"
Edit the first sentence to:
Zagreb is NOT a great birthplace of soccer players?
Zagreb is NOT the birthplace of great soccer players? Try again. Out of the old velika cetvorka (minus zvezda), one of each team's legend is from Zagreb. Which you may ask? Too many to count for Dinamo, Bernard Vukas for Hajduk and Stjepan Bobek for Partizan. I won't dispute that Zagreb doesn't have the money today because it does but definitely not back in the old yugo days. Dalmacija also has its great soccer legends as well (honorable mention to Split, Zadar and Sibenik).
Interesting political battle going on.
The only thing that I have to say is this:
"Pavelic did not "sell" some coastal areas to Mussolini. It was a trade off for bringing all of Bosnia under Croatian overlordship;"
Sell? trade? same shit. As far as "expected" to get back Dalmacija…
Why dont you "sell" "trade" your girlfriend… lets see if you get her back…
Also, trusting the Italians? uff.. The Italians(Venetian empire, Sicilian Stallions, whatever you want to call them) have been sticking it to Dalmacija for hundreds of years… not to mention today. Last year an Italian politician said "Dalmatia is Italian, it needs to be returned."
I am not saying that Pavelic was a loser. Like Ante B said, one of the greatest Hrvat in history. However, he made a mistake in "selling" "trading" "lending" Dalmacija. Just my opinion. OK, enough politics for me.
Perisic to Dortmund? I dont like it. The kid will ride the bench. Perisic is read to start somewhere in the Bundesliga.
@ Ante B
“The only color battle I have is between blue and white…and blue wins all the time.”
Because Zagreb has the MONEY, NOT because Zagreb is the birthplace of great soccer players. Anyway, I understand that nothing will make you white and there is not a chance that I will not die white….And, I do not have a problem with that.
"In terms of Pavelic, he returned Dalmacija to Croatia right after he "sold" it."
That’s not true. He ‘sold’ it in 1941 and got it back from Hitler in 1943 after capitulation of Italy.
“there was no such thing as an Italian nation until about 150 years ago”
It wasn’t Italy as a country; it was Italians under different names (for example Venetian Republic).
I might've jumped the gun on that but once the whole white vs non-white that anonymous brought up is not my bag of tea etc.
The only color battle I have is between blue and white…and blue wins all the time.
@Ante B, I was agreeing with you about Pavelic with the first sentence. The rest of the post was responding to the last 'anonymous' statement about what would have happened if "it went Pavelic's (ie the Axis) way.
Ma boli me kurac when you bring up this white vs non-white. You're barking up the wrong tree with me on that one. Again, boli me kurac.
Ante B: "In terms of Pavelic, he returned Dalmacija to Croatia right after he "sold" it."
Which was exactly the plan. As for how WWII turned out, the "great victory" opened the gates of white countries and only white countries to hordes of third world/non-whites, and now white children are in danger of living in world with not ONE majority white country, let alone an ALL white country the way Japan, China & Korea are all Oriental. Talk about a pyrrhic victory.
@ last anonymous, there was no such thing as an Italian nation until about 150 years ago, just like there was no such thing as Yugoslavia until about 90 years ago. So I don't know where you get "centuries" from. Maybe you're thinking about our wars with the Turks when we were part of the Hapsburg and Austro-Hungarian Empires.
Ivane, you did a great job with this fan zone. I understand both sides of the equation and the unintentional stigma you brought up when you said you didn't want to sit with the BBB or Torcida; I know you didn't do this on purpose. I won't speak in terms of "well, I would have done…" because we're all different. For what was presented in your article, svaka cast. Should you have made more of an attempt to try sit with them…up to debate. I usually tend to go out of my way to sit with the said BBB and Torcida because they always provide the best atmosphere at any game, especially when Croatia is playing. If your argument is that you don't understand why they needed a police escort, that's understandable too. When we were at the Crottenham game in San Jose, I felt we (Hrvati) were singled out and had cops/security all around us just because we fit the profile of "hooligans" which is sranje.
In terms of Pavelic, he returned Dalmacija to Croatia right after he "sold" it. He made a lot of mistakes but his place should be among the greats in Croatian history. I don't care what your commie propaganda says otherwise. Pavelic was the first person to lead a Croatian nation in 1,000 years and after he left Croatia (one of my gripes), he still started HOP in the dijaspora. Without HOP and the dijaspora, there would be no Croatia today.
Call it however you want, but I’m afraid to think what would happen if it went his way. His idea of NDH was good, but he made to many mistakes trying to make it reality. Read “Treaty of Rome”. Part of history: leave it there. I am happy that Dalmacija is not part of Italy, and hoping it will never be. Italians were never good to Croatians (for centuries).
From what I know, Pavelic did not "sell" some coastal areas to Mussolini. It was a trade off for bringing all of Bosnia under Croatian overlordship; plus the Ustasha expected to get back said coastal areas after the would be axis victory.
"I would be writing for the Italian soccer report today"
Based on my following you on CSR, you would still write about Croatians around the world (with the assumption that you would still be Denis Svircic). Something to think about……………
"I hope travelling in Poland in 2012 for the Euro to support them again! ;)"
Still over a year away but a few of us here in LA are thinking about making the trip to Poland/Ukraine. Stay in touch with us. We would love to have you join us for the trip.(If Croatia qualify of course).
Also, we have your back here at CSR. You've proven yourself already with this post.
"gutless supporter" "scared"
and we wonder why croatians are not united?
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"and we wonder why croatians are not united?"
at least you could have signed in.
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Appreciate the history lesson. I agree, many of us here haven't learned Croatian history. I would be the first to admit.
I do know that Pavelic would have sold Dalmacija to the Digici. How history changes things. If it were up to Pavelic, I would be writing for the Italian soccer report today. The Blues? you might as well make me a Dinamo fan or a Jayhawk fan:
"'Cause I'm a Jay, Jay,
Jay, Jay, Jayhawk,
Up at Lawrence on the Kaw
'Cause I'm a Jay, Jay,
Jay, Jay, Jayhawk,
With a sis-boom, hip hoorah.
Got a bill that's big enough
To twist the Tiger's tail,
Rope some 'Horns and listen
To the Red Raider's wail.
'Cause I'm a Jay, Jay,
Jay, Jay, Jayhawk,
Riding on a Kansas gale."
A comment to follow from me later today. I acknowledge I haven't been posting as much lately but this needs to be addressed.
In advance, sretan Deseti Travanj svima koje ga slave!
Bog i Hrvati
Za Dom Spremni
@ pro ustasa
It is not zivio Torcida: it is Zivjela Torcida.
Based on that comment, you or yours are Dalmatinci. How you can be pro ustasa: Pavelic sold Dalmacija to Italy? If it was his way, you would be minority in Italy today. Pick up a book and do some reading.
@ pro ustasa and marko z
Get a life….
1941 was 70 years ago…
Enjoy the game…..
@ Pro utasa
Where did you read I was scared by the cop? I was surprised yes, because I didn't think Croatian need escort to go to the stadium.
Pro ustasa & Marko z
well said ustasa,supporters like that run when the going gets tuff in the stands,they see a that some nered might start,then their the first to get to the exit gates
long live bbb long the hard core cvrsto desnicari supporters
what a scared goose.im not bbb or torcida…what u scared the cops mite lock u up LOL..why didnt u say that u were torcida or bbb LOl..gutless supporter……fk living in france anyway..ZAP
Bravo Ivane i hvala.
You're welcome guys!
I know the ticket was expansive, but it was the first time I looked the Vatreni for "real".
I hope travelling in Poland in 2012 for the Euro to support them again! 😉
good stuff, thanks Ivan!
Great job! Appreciate the pregame report. I didnt think that the Croatian fans would get an escort. For the most part, I would think that the French could care less about Croatia.
I would like to see Vinko Coce in a French XXXXXXL shirt
Shit I paid 100 Euro on the Parisian black-market to watch Ivan Ljubicic face Ramírez Hidalgo 2006 Roland Garros fourth round. Ljubo was ranked 3rd in the world at that time.
I agree that 76 euro for a friendly is ridiculous.
I don't remember…what did a ticket for Brazil go for?
@Ivan….not bad. You English is much better than the Croatian of many hrvati first generation croats in N. American.
@ Ante….that is about the basic rate for friendlies of these big nations. Remember what Cro charged for the friendly with Brazil.
The french jersey is perfect for a ribarska noc.
Great job Ivan!
76 Euros for a friendly though; sitting 20 rows behind the corner flag…ouch!
Is that what the FFF are pulling from their countrymen these days? I guess when your kits get sponsored by the Abercrombie & Fitch summer collection, prices go up.