HOW WOULD MODRIĆ LOOK IN MANCHESTER RED?
Croatian star midfielder Luka Modrić has been the talk of the town so far in the summer transfer window as Premiership champions Manchester United and English runners-up Chelsea have both publicly said that Modrić is on their summer shopping list, with Chelsea already offering Tottenham £22 million for Modrić’s services.
Soccernet.com has been all over the Modrić transfer rumors during the past week. It seems the Croatian Magician would be willing to move from Tottenham and Chelsea is his first choice as he loves London and doesn’t want to move his family.
“I’m a Tottenham player and will be in London on July 7 to begin preparing for the season,” he said. “But I want to say that transfers could occur later. In England it is often the case they happen on the last day of the transfer period, August 31.”
-Luka Modric
WILL MODRIC & REDKNAPP WORK TOGETHER AGAIN?
Harry Redknapp has even said that “a number of ‘top, top clubs’ have enquired about Luka Modrić”, but believes the midfielder could stay at White Hart Lane for years to come.
No matter what Tottenham executives say at the moment, they only have one play: to raise the stock of Luka Modrić. It is way too early in the transfer window to even entertain offers. Soccer is a business after all. Tottenham could either stick to their guns and make another run at Champions League or sell Modrić while his stock is at an all-time high. There is no comprehensible way that Tottenham could even sell Modrić for less than £40 million.
Chelsea are said to have made an improved bid for Modrić after their initial £22 million offer was dismissed by Redknapp as “ridiculous”, and the player has confirmed that he is eager to move to Stamford Bridge as he seeks to return to the Champions League. Another rumor even has Chelsea’s Michael Essien going to Tottenham in a cash/player trade for Luka Modrić.
CSR NATION: What should Modrić do? Stick it out with Tottenham or force a transfer to a bigger club? If Modrić transfers, it could be the biggest move of the summer.
AN ODE TO MODRIĆ VIA THE CLASH
@ Ante B
my favorite is "ajde se ti lipo kupaj na jezero a ja cu u jadransko."
Raptore, first of all it's 'content', not 'contempt'. Second, if you re-read my post you will easily see that I did not question YOUR knowledge or assessment skills – I was making a point – obviously.
1st of all, Anon, why you got to be secretive & remain anonymous & I think it does, cause if your crazy about the sport & show as much passion for it as I do, you want to know & learn everything about the game, I was takeing notes of tactics at a young age when most kids my age back then where just contempt with making sure the ball went forward..
Raptore: "Andrej, i was watching football when you were being spoon fed baby food."
That in and of itself does not make your assessment skills superior to Andrej's. Eg: if person A reads 25 books on a subject and pereson B reads 2 on the same subject, A probably knows more about the subject, but it's entirely possible B can better apply the knowledge to the real world.
Andrej use your brain for a second buddy, Modric was basically unkown before he came to Tottenham, he didn't earn any respect from a world wide audience at Dinamo, for f*** sake, think man, Yes he had a good showing at the Euros & people saw a glimpse of him, But it was at Tottenham that people truly started to take notice of him, We all know Modric has up & down form, but yes of late he has been fairly consistent,
But Andrej whos not to say if he got signed by Valencia that he got onto a few bad starts & the coach lost faith in him, You cant guarantee form at every club is what im trying to say, He most def made his name at Tottenham & under Harry , not Ramos, don't even think of trying to school me Andrej, i was watching football when you were being spoon fed baby food..
@Slavonic, I was just making a point.
Dukicu,
One of my favorite lines to use on her when I'm trying to push her buttons (REMEMBER THAT THESE ARE ALL JOKES PEOPLE):
1) if Hercegovina is so awesome, why did you Hercegovci all move to Zagreb?
2) are you guys so tall so you can see Zagreb from Hercegovina?
3) does it make you mad when you realize Hercegovina isnt legally in Croatia?
4) Hercegovina? What's that?
5) Speak Croatian, not Turkish
Again, only use these when you know it's ok. I wouldn't use these in an actual fight. Only when it turns to (insert region) vs Hercegovina.
Again, these are JOKES 🙂
@ Ante B
my gf is a hercegovka. and yes i call her bosanka too and its a big mistake. they get pissed.
Lesson learned: one supporters group every move will be detailed and the other will get a blind eye, lovely.
Thanks HSR.
What the Torcida did in Tomislavgrad is stupid, but very small compared to what the BBB and Torcida have done in the past. On a scale of 1-10, this was a 2 or 3. Both sets of fans are idiots.
@Ante B,
"can we finally comment on the hooligan element of the Torcida in Tomislavgrad today? "
feel free to comment. Go for it. Doesn't look like anyone is interested. I think we did a pretty good job this season to squash the Hajduksoccerreport.com rumors. Just like Jelavic to ManU, it was just a rumor.
Kvartuc pretty much explained why we left out "Torcida in Tomislav grad."
"If the BBB did this, everybody would've been talking about it."
Yes, if the BBB did this, we would have BBB "ramadan" for a week straight.
No one in Croatian media has said more than a paragraph on the incident and only you have posted 4 comments about it.
However, if you feel there is a need to include this, write something up and shoot us an email.
@Wallace,
you crack me up man. "French idealist".. you need your own show.
"The concept of a nation is not geographic, but purely racial."
As a geographer, I agree with you on this. But with globalization, and Croatia entering the EU… I am afraid to see how the national team will look like in 2030
@to the rest of you,
"Can't we all just get along?"
We are here to unite, not divide the Croatian people. Lets help our brothers and sisters instead of bashing on them. I admit that I am at fault for being very uneducated on the history of Croatia. Pre- 19th century history has always been a snooze for me. I do have to brush up on this.
Eh moj Baricevicu,
Did you even read the story and see the pictures? It was two out of focus pictures with a few guys with their shirts off and some police not seen doing anything. A small paragraph saying that 3500 Torcida members crossed the Bosnian-Croatia border to watch the friendly with Hajduk and 3rd division team Tomislavgrad. They broke a few windows but nothing really crazy happened. Also no video.
The Dinamo-PAOK incident was:
1. During Europa League
2. The bus was carrying Greek dignitaries
3. Had a pretty hands on video (Look Below)
http://www.croatiansoccerreport.com/2010/12/paok-fans-welcome-to-hell.html
We reported when Torcida got their asses kicked in St. Petersburg during Europa but you still like to call us HajdukSoccerReport.com.
I don't get it. I think you just like the sound of HajdukSoccerReport.com…the 24/7 Hajduk network.
Maybe we'll do that after CroatianSports.com launches.
What part of "hey let's talk about the Torcida in Hercegovina" earlier today did you not understand? Note to self: Swahili is apparently your first language.
Somebody must've pissed in your Cherrios this morning.
Since you're the brains of the operation, please provide me/us with a link where you read Eduardo's roots are Croatian. I for one would love to know if that's actually true because it further validates my assumption that Eduardo SHOULD be on the team.
Remember, San Jose always sticks together.
WAR BlackZodiac always using CELTICS
Triple U – the guy on CSR who thinks he's on Rome
@ Ante B
"Question: you said Eduardo's parents or grandparents are Croatian, which one?"
I believe it was his mothers side, read it a while back. As you should know you cannot represent a country inherited by any great grandparents, Fifa regulations.
"In terms of this Bosanac vs Hercegovac battle, my soon to be wife is a Hercegovka and I called her a Bosanka to joke around…yeah…huge mistake."
As to where did I say a Croatian (Hercegovka) is Bosnian, you need to get off Dukics balls.
Since you cannot read likewise, I will spoon feed you also.
Dukic:
"eduardo aint croatian in my book ziva…"
My response:
"Eduardo – Brazil
Jelavic – Bosnia
Klasnic – Germany
Petric – Bosnia
Lovren – Bosnia
Corluka – Bosnia
Simunic – Australia
Rakitic – Switzerland
Ilicevic – Germany
Kranjcar has a Bosnian surname
Schildenfeld is German, born in Croatia.
What about this LIST, a lot of our team members were BORN OUTSIDE of CROATIA, like EDUARDO he shares CROATIAN HERITAGE JUST LIKE THESE PLAYERS."
Put in highlights to help you read a little better.
"So once this circle jerk between you and Dukic is over, can we finally comment on the hooligan element of the Torcida in Tomislavgrad today?"
Hop off Dukics balls and lead the way of discussion.
BlackZodia(CelticS),
Question: you said Eduardo's parents or grandparents are Croatian, which one? Do you have a link you can provide because I've never heard that one before.
In terms of this Bosanac vs Hercegovac battle, my soon to be wife is a Hercegovka and I called her a Bosanka to joke around…yeah…huge mistake.
So once this circle jerk between you and Dukic is over, can we finally comment on the hooligan element of the Torcida in Tomislavgrad today? Hell, hours after Dinamo fans attacked the PAOK boss in Zagreb, CSR put up an article about it.
Hajduksoccerreport.com.
End.
@ Dukic
"go find a hercegovac and call him a bosnian. i dare you."
Holding onto that like a life saver are we, you have literally backed down on everything but that, as I stated above, I'm tired of spoon feeding you, you have no good arguments nor debatable material, nothing more then pathetic claims and statements.
"you have no idea about the history of bosnia. you know whats wrong with their soccer federation?"
I know exactly what's wrong with their football federation, they only allow Bosnian's to represent their national team.
"you know nothing about croatia and history of our country. youre embarrassing yourself."
Easy to say from way over there in California arm-chair general. You have yet to prove any points, the only thing you have managed to do is: lose, twist words, make false claims and stupid statements.
You have shown me nothing, nothing at all that even persuades me to believe you know anything about Croatia, other then arguing over something that never was said due to your inability to read.
@ Allen19
"a war about being Croatian lovely….what a joke. We are supposed to be united, get a grip."
United yes, Dukic just doesn't like the fact of someone calling him out on his claims and statements. Otherwise it would be a debate not a "bitchfest" on his behalf.
@ Dukic
"all im saying is that you cant call a hercegovac bosnian. and if you dont know that then youre crazy."
Quote me on it, really now. As stated above, I put the list up to see what you would say about them, since they were not born in Croatia, why didn't you bitch about Australia, Germany or Switzerland? According to you're "Eduardo isn't Croat" I called you out on some of our national team members being BORN outside of CROATIA, never said "list" are all Bosnians, they are born in Bosnia. Learn to read, especially before you post your utter nonsense.
So before you make more of an dunce out of yourself, read before you post, troll.
And STILL no mention of the hooligans from Torcida wrecking havoc in Hercegovina today.
If the BBB did this, everybody would've been talking about it.
all im saying is that you cant call a hercegovac bosnian. and if you dont know that then youre crazy.
a war about being Croatian lovely….what a joke. We are supposed to be united, get a grip.
Kranjcar to Celtic would be great for the Croatian rivalry within the old firms. Niko would tear it up in the SPL and it would drive up his price.
PS. The whole Croatian-ness debate, once again, is pathetic. "My Croatian is bigger than your Croatian." How Croatian is Ivo Sanader? By most of your standards he's "100%" He sold the country down the river. By my standards he's a traitor.
@crnizodiak
go find a hercegovac and call him a bosnian. i dare you. you have no idea about the history of bosnia. you know whats wrong with their soccer federation? thats whats wrong with that country! theyre are divided! dont speak anymore. you know nothing about croatia and history of our country. youre embarrassing yourself.
@ NateStadamus
I agree everything with what you have stated above, it appears Dukic is just letting his emotions get in the way of a proper debate.
@ ziva istina
"what nonsesne are you talking about…..if u have croatian blood and can read, speak and write croatian…..then you are croatian."
Going by Dukics comment of "I don't consider Eduardo Croat" cause he wasn't born in Croatia, I threw a list for him to decipher and enlighten the situation on what he thinks/believes.
"Those who are third-generation and cant speak the lanaguage are not croatian in my book. We have a bunch of those type of half ass italian-americans here in the US. They claim they are italian but cant speak one word of italian.
Same theory applies to hrvati here in the US."
Couldn't agree more.
@ Dukic
"eduardo is not croatian in my book. he doesnt have a croatian heart"
Yet he resides in Croatia, speaks the language and his desires were for the HNS, and has Croat parent[s]/ grandparent[s]. You are entitled to your own opinions and beliefs, just don't get irrational when someone disagrees or calls you out on it.
"second of all. im not trying to offend you with you not being croatian. its just you said it yourself. you started watching soccer in 2006!!!!"
I have not said anything about you making claims on my ethnic background, nor did I ever claim watching football since 2006, you need to recite some of these things before you post.
"third of all. let me give you a lesson in croatian culture. dont EVER call a hercegovac a bosnian cause youll get stomped on real fast. they arent f'in bosnian. croatians. maybe you should read some history books."
First off, Bosna and Herzegovina are reconized by the international community as Bosnia, the region of Herzegovina is Bosnian. Like the Krajina in Croatia, it's our land peroid. Kosovo is Srpska but let's not discuss that.
"fourth of all. barcelona is the best team in the world"
Never stated it wasn't, don't know what you are trying to argue with this, as I stated before, empires fall and new ones rise, in this case Barcalona a Spanish club team.
"hercegovina je hrvatska buddy. so dont say bosnia. you sound like a fool.\'
Herzegovina is now Bosnian territory, don't put words into my mouth, I am going by your "rhetoric" comments such as "I don't consider Eduardo Croatian". There is a list I put up asking you of your "infinite wisdom" about these players who are born outside of Croatia, capiche?
@Hamilcar
Germans our traditional allies? Pre 1989 I don't think so, do you ever remember us being invaded by the Germans and being labeled a "puppet state"? Of course not.
Also with your over exaggerated comment, Croatia is the most non multicultural country in the world so what are you worried about a few legal immigrants moving to Croatia?
@Dukic,BlackZodiak,and anyone else weighing in on the "Is Someone Croatian" debate-
I love being Croatian but damn, why are we always subdividing and ranking everyone? If you embrace the culture, the traditions, the clubs, you own land there, you speak the language or make an attempt to learn it, or you choose to be Croatian, AND at least someone in your bloodline is Croatian then you are Croatian.
In the sports world, if you have Croatian blood and choose to represent Croatia instead of another country then you are Croatian. Doesn't matter where you were born.
Nope….at that point we are beyond the point of return with Croatia.
Edit:
Jelavic – croatian blood
Klasnic – croatian blood
Petric – croatian blood
Lovren – croatian blood
Corluka – croatian blood
Simunic – croatian blood
Rakitic – croatian blood
Ilicevic – croatian blood
Kranjcar – croatian blood
Schildenfeld – fellow indo-european, plus many croats have germanic blood, plus Germany & Austria (where they are mostly of German descent and speak German) are traditional Croatian allies.
@zivaistina
to je ziva istina.
@crnizodiak
eduardo is not croatian in my book. he doesnt have a croatian heart. yea he is good but he is still brazilian. i told myself if sammir plays for our national team then i wont root for them.
second of all. im not trying to offend you with you not being croatian. its just you said it yourself. you started watching soccer in 2006!!!! most guys on this blog live and breath soccer. you cant expect to win an argument with us.
third of all. let me give you a lesson in croatian culture. dont EVER call a hercegovac a bosnian cause youll get stomped on real fast. they arent f'in bosnian. croatians. maybe you should read some history books.
fourth of all. barcelona is the best team in the world cause of their midfield!! you know xavi and iniesta. not cause of their defense. their defense is mediocre. their gk is horrible. if you control the middle you win the game.
fifth of all. i said EPL was shit before foreigners. i enjoy watching it cause of the pace and the top teams cause they play better. i wont be waking up at 5 am to watch west brom and norwich city. thats for sure.
hercegovina je hrvatska buddy. so dont say bosnia. you sound like a fool. thats a god damn insult to people calling them bosnian. but of course you know everything.
what nonsesne are you talking about…..if u have croatian blood and can read, speak and write croatian…..then you are croatian.
Those who are third-generation and cant speak the lanaguage are not croatian in my book. We have a bunch of those type of half ass italian-americans here in the US. They claim they are italian but cant speak one word of italian.
Same theory applies to hrvati here in the US.
@ Dukic
"you just dug yourself in a bigger whole by comparing the EPL with HNL."
There was no comparison and there is none, when you call a nation & a franchise pretty much shit, when theirs is better then ours, it just goes to show the immaturity and really would have loved some English members see what you write utter nonsense.
"rio ferdinand? seriously? he always had a foreign center back helping him. overrated. he had laurent blanc his first season they won it. year after that he has john oshea they dont win it. first full year vidic is there boom they win it. get my point? same thing happened with john terry. no carvalho no silverware."
Look at Barcalona, all players are great, when you put the right ones together who work together you create an almost impregnable defense.
"argue stupidly with no logic."
England sucks and the EPL is shit, that's your logic and own stupidity.
"our country has 4 million people and money in soccer isnt nearly as close invested as england. not even the same ballpark."
You keep rambling on trying to prove what point? Simply you cannot call another league or country shit when ours is no better, period. I would love for you to go to England and do that, you'll get that mushroom cut stomped right off your scalp, keep it up.
"cool…..if you can speak, read and write croatian, then you are croatian."
That is almost one of the most ideological thing's I have ever heard in my life.
"eduardo aint croatian in my book ziva…"
Eduardo – Brazil
Jelavic – Bosnia
Klasnic – Germany
Petric – Bosnia
Lovren – Bosnia
Corluka – Bosnia
Simunic – Australia
Rakitic – Switzerland
Ilicevic – Germany
Kranjcar has a Bosnian surname
Schildenfeld is German, born in Croatia.
What about this list, a lot of our team members were born outside of Croatia, like Eduardo he shares Croatian heritage just like these players.
I really hate when basement mold offers ill informed opinions.
@ Wallace…i highly doubt ziva meant what you are implying…I'm pretty sure his comment was directed to Allen 19 and not the way you made it out!i dont think you should be questioning his loyalty to Croatia…you misinterpreted his comment!
just my opinion!
Like some sleezy French Idealist who's loyalty is to anyone who speaks french – they show more loyalty to a black who speaks french compared to a real italian – a fellow white-latin – that's traitorious, not the other way round.
"cool…..if you can speak, read and write croatian, then you are croatian."
Hahahahah, so if some aboriginal learns to speak, read & write croatian he is Croatian in your book? That is a disgusting, traitorious view. Your loyalty is to language? My loyalty is to blood, true nations aren't made from words – they are forged in blood.
"The origin of the word, “nation” is Latin “natus” meaning of the same birth origin or birth nature. The concept of a nation is not geographic, but purely racial. Before the 1900s, for all of white’s civilized history back thousands of years, the very concept of “nation” was hinged on racial and cultural homogeneity. The concept that a nation is just an economic system run by men with suits and ties, irrespective of the racial population, is a Jewish concept introduced to us recently. Whites absolutely are a nation, and a company of nations: “I will make thy seed become many nations….”
Looks like Torcida made themselves known in Tomislavgrad today. Anybody read about it? Or better yet, was anyone there?
"Celtics are a strong team"
"Celtics is decent club"
"Celtic's, Celtics, speaking of a group as a whole. Celtics F.C would be a little different my friend."
Boom. Winning.
eduardo aint croatian in my book ziva…
cool…..if you can speak, read and write croatian, then you are croatian.
I am going to Croatia July 5th to July 21st. My dad grew up in Zadar and while my mom was born in Australia, she went to Australia at age 14. I think that article for Croatian heritage night should certify me Croatian spending the night with so many Croatians. It's directed at me, there you go.
this is directed at nobody in particular, but watching croatian soccer does not make a person croatian.
carry on…
I hate when people question if I am Croatian, it makes me snap because I take it as a heavy insult. I watch just about every game they have played since World Cup 2006. I love this team to death, but I am in a good mood so no ranting. All I will say is that don't ever ask that again because if I wasn't Croatian, I think I wouldn't be on this site. I don't think I would have this much knowledge about the team.
I like England and I don't care what anyone thinks. Since I watch the EPL, I have gained a huge love for it. I hope for the best with them, just don't run into Croatia. But if you want to talk about hatred for England, get Croatia to play them and let me see Terry makes two back tackles and I will be cursing them out like a typical Croatian. Just don't question if I am Croatian or not, it's really offensive. It's just a huge belief that I think EPL is the best league in the world and nothing changes that.
@crnizodiak
you just dug yourself in a bigger whole by comparing the EPL with HNL.
rio ferdinand? seriously? he always had a foreign center back helping him. overrated. he had laurent blanc his first season they won it. year after that he has john oshea they dont win it. first full year vidic is there boom they win it. get my point? same thing happened with john terry. no carvalho no silverware. you know who zola is? one of the first foreigners that came to the epl and DOMINATED his position. the guy was magic.
our country has 4 million people and money in soccer isnt nearly as close invested as england. not even the same ballpark. kids dont play in cro cause they parents cant pay 200 kuna a month for training. just go to dinamo youth academy. half of those kids get picked up in bmws or benzes. and guess who pays for the poor players to play. those parents who are paying their kids to play who have no idea. you need to do your research. cant just come here and argue stupidly with no logic. croatians are known as brazilians of europe for their passing and technical skill. english are known for there long ball. they arent evolving their game. their academies consist of english kids who have no chance of making it pro because the little spaniards are getting bought because they are better. english football is crap. their academies are crap. foreign investors and foreign players created what the epl is today.
@ Dukic
"tell me what players on the english national team have the technical skill to play in spain or italy?"
Wayne Rooney, Joe Cole, Rio Ferdinand, Ashley Cole, all good proven players on the English squad, they would make it in Italy, possibly Spain.
"there is a reason their national team sucks! wake up."
With what you're going by our national team must be garbage.
"top 4 squads are foreigners!!! spurs arent gonna be top 4 if they keep on playing huddlestone. huddlestone is rated best english passer. seriously!?!"
You're really all over the place tonight aren't you. First off look at Barcalona and Real Madrid, two giants who have been spending a lot of money to get top quality to their club. Empires fall and new ones take their place, you can't always be at the top forever.
"is that a technically skilled nation. no way in hell."
So if England and the EPL sucks, where does that put us Croats.
"go watch english football before foreigners. they make mls look good. have you ever played or followed soccer or do you watch fox soccer channel to get your info?"
Seen quite a lot of football, not a whole lot on television, when my teams play I will watch when I can or catch the highlights, got the oppertunity to be at the Croatia vs Germany match for Euro 2008, also got to watch us loose to Turkey, few Dinamo Zagreb games and countless boring MLS/TFC games..
My info consists of what I watch/hear, which ever I catch on the multiple soccer channels I have at my disposal.
@crnizodiak
tell me what players on the english national team have the technical skill to play in spain or italy? honestly. lamps and stevie g. thats it. there is a reason their national team sucks! wake up. top 4 squads are foreigners!!! spurs arent gonna be top 4 if they keep on playing huddlestone. huddlestone is rated best english passer. seriously!?! is that a technically skilled nation. no way in hell. go watch english football before foreigners. they make mls look good. have you ever played or followed soccer or do you watch fox soccer channel to get your info?
@ Ante B
Celtic's, Celtics, speaking of a group as a whole. Celtics F.C would be a little different my friend.
@ Dukic
"cause croatians dont like english players cause they have no technical skill!"
I see them more as an enemy, no technical skill and them being the only team to crush us 5-1 at home? You're speaking nonsense right now.
Over rated? Yes, no technical skill, nonsense.
@ Andrej
"Kranjcar has reached top flight why would he go back down at the prime of his career…? Money?"
You're getting mixed up with where I would prefer him to go as to where he should go, not you, nor I will know until he has made the final decision. As I stated before I would prefer Kranjcar to go to Wolfsburg or Roma, Celtics is decent club and Kranjcars (*Kranjcar* sorry ante b)playing time on the pitch would be 100% and that's what he needs, even a loan to Celtic's for a few months isn't a bad idea. Look at Euro 2008, where were our players playing at that time, the team was at it's best since the mid 90s, majority were at lower to mid levels & getting starting positions.
Zodiac,
Are you purposely continously writing Celtics as a joke…or do you actually think the team from Glasgow is called Celtics? If so, that's epic.
@allen19
are you even croatian? cause croatians dont like english players cause they have no technical skill! thats not football run and go!
Walker is an animal, I don't care what anyone says. That guy is a star in the making, he is a bit under sized but he can be a huge success. I love Corluka, but he better step up some more. Henderson is so overrated, no idea how he got hyped. Smalling is decent needs more experience and Jones is a beast. Don't rip on England's defense, rip on guys in the midfield and also the strikers. Sturridge was a bit disappointment, but he still has a great future.
@crnazodiak
spl is horrible guys. if you dont realize that then you have issues. celtics and rangers player go to the championshit not the epl. do your research before you try to argue.
@zivaistina
if modric cant start in front of busquets in the starting 11 i will shoot myself.
@allen19
englands u21 suck! seriously kyle walker. cause he can run like a maniac up and down the line. do you realize they didnt win ONE game at the euros. you have phil jones, chris smalling, and jordan henderson worth 55 million pounds combined and they couldnt beat a czech team that majority play in the czech league. joke. but let me ask everybody else if you think kyle walker could play in any other league then epl. the answer is a big NO! corluka can and physically he is far from suited playing right back in the epl but thankfully he has brains.
BZ,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011%E2%80%9312_UEFA_Champions_League#Association_team_allocation
Last year was final season for there 2 teams in CL and from here on out unless they preform in european competitions they will stay where there at. Kranjcar has reached top flight why would he go back down at the prime of his career…? Money? The only reason I could see that otherwise CL isn't a promise…so there is fairly little incentive to go there…
@ Andrej
The SPL isn't in the greatest shape currently, though it's not the end of the SPL.
From current ranking and standards the SPL still has it's 2nd placement for it's CL & 3 for Europa league.
Celtics are a strong team and not a bad way to get back on your feet for not playing any pitch time for a year.
I would most prefer Kranjcar going to Wolfsburg or Roma but that isn't going to happen.
Ziva,
I don't think Modric would break into Barca but to be honest I don't think there is a player that can break into there side right now. Sure, Ronaldo and even then the style they play may not suit Ronaldos strengths. My personal feeling is Barca currently is just the best players in the world and they have grown together and now are just amazing! You can assemble a team of the worlds best 11 without touching Barca and I dont think you can make a better team than Barca…
Now that we can agree on my friend. How Jordan Henderson got 20 million is beyond me, the guy isn't very good and didn't do a damn thing. Daniel Sturridge is really special that's one guy other than Wilshere and I still think Walker is top notch. Welbeck has potential but other than that English people really overhype their players to much which is why I never get too crazy. I just found Walker better than average and someone to watch out.
Allen,
Kyle Walker is young but he didn't impress me in anything to do with defense still. Sure he put in a decent cross here and there and has loads of speed but he was caught out of place multiple times throughout all the games. Overall I doubt his performance during the tournament is anything to brag about and with how England looked was pathetic in it self.
Its an embarrassment the money that the English prospects are being bought for. All the talk that comes out about them and they still can't win a single match? Pathetic and I will not give them any sympathy you are going to be judged by your price tag and England youth outside of Wilshire is beyond average. Spain score may be a tie but the level of talent is a hundred time better in Spain than anything England has.
Mark…………you are a fool. Modric is not a top 10 player. However, he fits a need for teams like Chelsea and Man U. He couldn't make Barca's starting 11 right now.
I would say he is a top midfielder in the world.
By the way….nice showing by your hrvati in Chicago at the Gotovina rally last week. 30 people??? What an accomplishment.
All great debates and Andrej I agree with you except on one thing. What in the world were you watching this tournament. Kyle Walker was the best player for England and was incredible out there. Once again I have no idea where you come from but whatever. He is going to give Corluka a run for his money, but hey in January Corluka can move so I am not worried.
Kranjcar and Modric are two different people. Modric shouldn't step foot in Serie A, he's too good for that. Kranjcar isn't as good but still high quality. He can be a force to be reckon with. I am not a fan of La Liga at all, so I hope Niko doesn't go there. I didn't mind Rakitic going there because he's going to use that as a stepping stone for his next big move. Niko needs to take a club with good intentions. I also rule out the German league for him, he's too good for it.
Kranjcar should stay in england.
Celtic or Dynamo is a step down for him! Stay in england of go to Italy spain of Germany…Dummy!
SPL is FAR worse then Ukraine League. At least Russinan and Ukrainian teams are proving themselves in Europa and CL…something the SPL isnt doing. The SPL lost there 2nd seed for CL! Only Rangers or Celtics make it now into the 3rd round! Sorry but that is just a decline from what that league was.
Celtics and Rangers ARE Dinamo and Hajduk…hardly would consider them unbeatable. SPL SUCKS and it can be seen. Kranjcar can do what he wants for money but thats a retirement team move…
@ Dukic
"celtic? seriously. hes better off going to hajduk or dinamo"
-Celtics are a better club team then Hujduk & Dinamo.
"cause thats how the spl is."
-Explain this one..
"if he is leaving england it wont be for scotland!"
-Who ever offers more money, will most likely be the team club he'll be signing for.
@Anonymous
"Celtics don't have the money that top clubs can offer."
What "top teams" have offered Kranjcar a contract? Dynamo Kiev is the only team that has made the bid and I wouldn't consider them any better then Celtic F.C.
@ Allen19
"But if he does move, Serie A wouldn't be the worst move in the world. A move to Inter would have me really excited or Napoil. A move to Roma or Juventus would piss me off a bit because both teams are in disarray."
-Modric is linked with Serie A teams?
"It's Tottenham who have made Modric a household name?"
No disrespect to Tottenham but remind me of who they were and what they have achieved in the last two decades again…lets be realistic Modric leaves and they are back to the same ****show they were in for years. Harry is not Tottenham he is a coach and those feelings about players would be there regardless where he was coaching. Modric is respected at Tottenham but he was a player already Tottenham didn't make him he made them…
I am not trying to bash Tottenham but when players get better offers from more prestigious teams they leave! Take Berbatov for example…Tottenham fans may hate him now but he did everything correctly by leaving Tottenham and has achieved far more than he would ever have at Tottenham. Sorry bigger club and better money speaks for it self. Tottenham are and will be a feeder club for years to come still and if fans of them can't accept that then they can go and hate every player that goes there and leaves.
Most defintely not a top 10 but I do believe he would have a better chance of cracking the barcelona line up better then any other midfielder in the epl , and I believe modric is worth closer to 40 then what caroll is to 35, with out any doubt..
Dinamo Dennis I suggest you shut your mouth because it's Tottenham who have made modric a household name, Harry has spoken of the respect he has for Croatian players, & there's no hiding the fact redknapp has much knowledge when it comes to football, players can learn alot from the guy..show some respect buddy..
I honestly fear for Corluka though. Kyle Walker who is supposed to be a good prospect(didn't impress me watching him U-21) is coming to the team next year. We know damn well there is no rotation in that club and once Walker takes RB Corluka is only getting it if he gets injured. I just don't want to see him sit on the bench the entire year…
We know the the English go…if you are fast you are playing and thats all this kid has and we know Corluka runs like hes tugging a boat behind him. I still think Corluka is a good player not class and never will be but he has good qualities and shouldn't consider riding the bench.
Kranjcar should go where he will play but Celtics is a big club in a bad league. Not only that but there is only 1 CL position for that league in the coming years HNL quality? Yes…they have fans and they can afford to pay decent wages. The club is bigger and has a lot of history but don't see any reason outside of money to go there.
Dinamo Kiev would be a good move. Ukraine league isn't awful they are close to overtaking Russia for 3 CL spots. That being said the league may not be PL but those two teams have quality to compete with the big clubs. Shaktar won Europa couple years back…made it to semis this year in CL. When a man says "if kranjcar will come we will go buy him" its assuring to me they would get a deal done…no point of playing mid-table/bottom EPL with players who dont suit his game. Better make a move elsewhere…
I mentioned several months ago that Modric was a top 10 world player and some of you disagreed (Ziva of course). It seems as if the top clubs in the EPL agree.
If Tottenham can match what others are offering, then I think he should stay, show his loyalty. But Tottenham needs to acquire some more talent and support in order to get them back into the Champions League tier. With the extra money they would throw at Luka, there wouldn't be enough cheddar left to buy anyone else decent. That being said, I think he'll leave. Preferably Chelsea over Man U or City. It's too bad I hate all three of those teams. I would never root for Man U. They ill me. Good for you Luka!
I will help you out…
1. Olic is staying, no links to him of anything. He is going to fight for his spot and say if he can rediscover his unbelievable form at Munich from a year ago.
2. Kale I discussed already, but I didn't bring up teams. Aston Villa is interested but not sure if that's the greatest place for him. Bent is a top striker for the team and Villa plays a formation that contains mostly one striker. I do think the competition for 2nd striker if there one is easy with Emile Heskey being the joke that he is and Gabby Abgonlahor struggling to find his old form. Kale has a shot if he goes there.
3.Stipe ripped Harry in an interview recently on not being straight up with him. He claims he was lied to several times and found out he was leaving when Cudicini was signed. He never got a chance to compete for the first job and feels insulted. No clubs linked to him yet.
4. Srna is another guy that is likely not going anywhere. I haven't heard anything.
5. Corluka is staying put, really can't see him leaving. He has been vocal on facebook about Modric leaving saying he is doing the best he can for him to stay.
6. Jajalo is likely becoming a full time Koln player from reports.
if Kranjcar went to Celtic it would be a huge disappointment regardless of how much he would get paid…that leage is hardly even a step up from the MLS and Niko is a phenomenal player…far too good for that league!
Well I have stated my opinion about this situation. I will do it one more time. I will do this in two perspectives. Bias hardcore Tottenham Allen fan thinks it will be a slap in the face for Modric and he should stay to see if this team can build into something big. He is the main guy and he's running the show so what could be better. Non bias Tottenham Allen fan thinks Modric should still stay for one year just out of loyality and to see what happens, but in the end Tottenham WILL FAIL to become a big team.
All the cracks are showing with the team still not being able to get a huge stadium for funds. They refuse to break the bank for players and it will hunt them down again. Their strikers are poor and a goalkeeper situation cracking. Now as for the strikers, getting Van Der Vaart messed up the flow. But when your top striker Defoe is out for 3 months, you need to make a move because you can't rely on that idiot Crouch, lazy Pavylunchenko, and a Robbie Keane who isn't EPL worthy anymore. I just can't see Tottenham making that push for a big team and it's sad because last year they really got the job done against big teams. They never got blown out and fought till the end against every big team. It just drives me crazy how they dropped so many points against crap teams. It's inexcusable and it shows a lack of discipline. I still stand by Modric staying but in the Tottenham will falter and I pray that he goes to Man Utd. Man Utd has stability and they have the spot waiting for him. I do like to know where the rumor got out about how Fergie pleads for players to retire from international play early? Can someone clarify this statement so if he convinces Luka too, I can punch that bastard in the face like someone should have long ago.
Now on Kranjcar, well the links are decent but odd. I know people love Celtic, but stop the SPL isn't for him. I only want Croatians to go there for a stepping stone like Jelavic is doing to go to a bigger club. Niko is at the prime of his career, he needs to go to a place where he will make his career a memorable one and be remembered for it. If Modric does leave, I do think he should stay and play that attacking central mid role that I miss so much for him. That's his natural position but it has been taken away from him. But if he does move, Serie A wouldn't be the worst move in the world. A move to Inter would have me really excited or Napoil. A move to Roma or Juventus would piss me off a bit because both teams are in disarray. Inter or Aston Villa would be the best options although Everton wouldn't be the worst thing to happen. All I know is I will be purchasing his jersey as long as he doesn't go to a crap league like SPL or Ukraine league.
Other transfer news has Kalinic wanting out. This is great news because I have Blackburn getting relegated next year. They just have no flair and no excitement which leads to lack of goals. Christopher Samba is a top defender that is most likely leaving. Kale needs a new start and a new beginning, I really hope he does leave. @Nate you are a smart man, I can really see Corluka being last man standing but in the end Modric will stay for one more year like it or not and Kranjcar is out.
I guess the transfer on modric debate will never end.
in between, does anyone have updates on
(1)Olic
he is currently on the stage to recovery. However does he have a future at bayern still? since paterson is signed.
(2)Kalinic
(3)Pletikosa
We need him to play for a club where he can play regulary
(4)Srna
Will he stay in shahktar forever?
(5)Corluka
Will he move once modric leaves for chelsea? Since they are good friends
(6)Jajalo
thanks!
People, it's Celtic; not the Boston Celtics
@ziva, money and great teams go hand in hand. Celtics don't have the money that top clubs can offer. So, Celtics wouldn't even be in the discussion.
The best move for Modric is either Chelsea or Man U. Both clubs have aging midfields and he will be an immediate impact player. It will be great to see a Croatian leading the central midfield of a Champions League team.
Tottenham is a decent club, but they are going to have a difficult time this year. The current top four and Liverpool would finish above Tottenham whether Modric is there or not.
I think a lot of Croatian fans want him to stick with Spurs because of Niko, Stipe, Corluka, but by August Corluka will probably be the only Croaian left there.
actually, if the money is right, he would go to Celtic. 90% of the time its about the money….you follow the money.
@blackzodiac
celtic? seriously. hes better off going to hajduk or dinamo cause thats how the spl is. if he is leaving england it wont be for scotland! kranjcar je frajer nece on u glasgow.
i just hope this doesnt last long. cause either i want my new long sleeve tottenham jersey or my new long sleeve chelsea jersey! ac milan one long sleeve is coming in tomorrow. modric deserves champions league. if jordan henderson is 20 million pounds then modric is priceless. he will get playing time no matter what. he will be roman abramovics signing. even shevchenko got playing time cause roman bought him! i love shevchenko and is the top 5 strikers ever in my mind but he was washed up and still played. the reason jose left.
Kranjcar has been linked with Dynamo Kiev; Aston Villa, Fulham, Everton, Palma and now the Celtics? Celtics in my opinion would be the best decision for Kranjcar.
Niko's agents are claiming if Modric is sold he may be staying at Tottenham. Redknapp is a stubborn old prick, Kranjcar should move out of Tottenham asap.
Luka Modric right now has the option to go bigger and better, I would prefer him at Tottenham cause he has it good there. Which ever club he's at in the EPL he'll do just fine.
Lovren to Liverpool? He's a good rising talent and would much rather him getting starting time, number one priority. I can't see Lovren not getting a lot of pitch time for Liverpool, no real big star players up in the defense.
I know it's not Modric related but Celtic might be getting wood for Kranjcar
http://gol.hr/clanak/svjetski_nogomet/temperamentni-sjevernoirac-zeli-kranjcara-u-svojim-redovima.html
Imagine an Old Firm with Kranjcar vs Jelavic
I'd love to see Luka stay another year with Spurs and see what they could accomplish – as they will surely be raiding some team for a real forward that can score goals rather than the rubbish they have up top right now.
It will be interesting to see now that Chelsea have a manager in Villas-Boas if he is interested in Luka or that was just Abromavich.
United's midfield is screaming for a player like Luka right now – that is the one piece they don't currently have….
btw, article on lovren to liverpool:
http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/transfer-rumours/8466/5/liverpool-make-move-croatian-international-defender
i'm sure luka will make the decision that's best for him. i'm fine with him staying at spurs and teaming up with bale, sandro and van der vaart all year…but they need to get some quality strikers, otherwise they will miss the CL again.
i'd rather see him go to chelsea than manU. luka teaming up with obi mikel, who is coming into his own as a solid defensive midfielder, would be great. even with essien…although i think he's getting worn down with injuries and age…and i think obi mikel will get most of the minutes at defensive central midfielder next year.
i think it's a no-brainer that luka would be the playmaker at chelsea if he transfers there. F lampard. he was good, but well past his prime. i think he's overrated and gets more credit than he deserves because he's English. the English can't stand the fact that the best players in the EPL are NOT English, so they always pump up the English players (rooney, terry, etc.)
goal.com article on MODRIĆ
I am not saying that a Chelsea move would be the end of the world all I am saying is that I wouldnt drop a good gig at Tottenham for Chelsea. ManU is a different story. Aging midfield. One of the best managers ever. Tradition like no other. Outside of Barca and Real, no one can match a place on ManU.
@Andrej,
I agree with you that "Modric doesn't owe Tottenham a damn thing." In the end, soccer is a business.
Being the player of the year and "fighting for 4th" is worth more to me than being a role player and fighting for the crown.
So no champs league for a year. so what. Luka will play less games, should perform better for the national team and be ready(if we qualify) for Euro 2012.. not a bad gig playing for Tottenham. Could be a blessing in disguise.
As far as redknapp, I still believe he is an excellent manager. When Tottenham qualified for champs league and performed in champs league, no one on this board mentioned anything about Modric pursuing a better and bigger club. Now that Kranjcar was benched, Redknapp is worthless.
Lovren to Liverpool would be a disaster. He needs to develop before he is matched up against world class strikers of the EPL. I like Lovren at Lyon. 1) playing time. 2) champs league. Great gig.
@Slavonac from Canada
"most professional athletes work their whole lives to be the best they can, we see it every day and in every sport. even in our personal careers we try to achieve the best we can for ourselves"
Great point. Not saying that Modric to Chelsea would be a disaster. He will only get better at Spurs for one more year. Enjoy the Euro… show up for croatia, get transferred out to Man U for 50 mil…
still eaaaaaaaaaarly for Modric..
And ya Pienaar signing, WTF was the point there
I rather he goes to Man U as they are more stable and less turn around. They don't have that central play maker really like Lampard. Scholes is gone and Giggs is getting old too, so he'd be perfect in that role.
The Tottenham squad just plays with no creativity, they're boring to watch. They seem predictable and mechanical. You could see that corluka, modric and van der vaart are a class above everyone else passing wise.
I wouldn't want him going to ManU only because Ferguson has a knack of convincing his players to quit the NT early (Park, Berbatov and pretty soon Vidic). I care more about the NT than some club in England tbf
Lovren to Liverpool?
I don't know about this one. I don't know if he would play 1st team constantly and I don't know if he needs to leave Lyon who is playing CL and he is playing non-stop. To me he is a solid defender and shows promise but he still needs to mature and control his attitude because he still loses it far to often and not NT or club can afford that. The 3mil bid though that is rumored will probably not make it happen and its kind of funny. I think he has proven his price tag at least for what Lyon had payed for him…but I have only watched him in Croatia/u-21/CL…like I said solid, has potential, but still needs to improve his game and his attitude.
Ziva,
I agree with you and with Barca I don't see any outside buy who is cracking there first 11. I think they are that good currently! Not even Fabergaus(whatever the spelling).
As you say with Man U…a great manager like Fergie would raise Modrics game to even another level and I do think he would get more out of Modric. I think he is one of the best coaches out there.
The only team where Modric would sit would be Barca and to an extent with Man U. No chance he could crack the Barca line up and he would sit at Man U every now and then because Ferguson prefers to rotate his midfield with the high number of matches they play.
Modric on the bench? 🙂 Good one. He'd be on the field for 90+ for any club.
Looks like Mr. Tottenham will not sell him but Modric is keen on going to Chelsea.
http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/clubfootball/news/newsid=1454382.html
Modric wouldn't ever sit on the bench of Chelsea. Sorry a lot of talent in midfield but all that talent does not have what Modric has and that is creativity. Chelsea is a very aggressive team who enforces there physical side but lacks the service that Modric would give them. They run straight lines….use strength and speed but lack the passing. Like I said Chelsea midfield is talented but Modric is starting 4 out of 5 games there.
No athlete is worth what is paid for them but that being said if Henderson(22m), Carrol(35m), Jones(16m), ect… are being bought at prices that don't even make sense Tottenham will expect the same. Those 3 did NOTHING to justify there prices. Carrol 9 games in PL and his value is out of the roof. Henderson and Phil Jones…ahh the wonderful English mentality of how much homegrown players are worth. Either way none are near Modric quality or potential. The market is boring as the prices that are being paid right now are not even affordable to most clubs…
That being said Modric doesn't owe Tottenham a damn thing. Tottenham had a chance to keep him around last winter transfer window but who do they go out and sign Pienaar! No offense but like a jewish based club they make some jew signings(all sarcasm intended). You want bargain buys you will get what you pay for 99.9% of the time. Sorry but if you don't want to invest money into top notch players or at least attempt to you will always be mediocre midtable selling club as they have been…they are a stepping stone to bigger things and they have done little to nothing to convince me otherwise.
1)Red or Blue he will win something or have an ambition of playing CL and chasing 1st and not 4th.
2)He gets paid 3x more…what more does he need?
3)While he signed a 6 year contract it is to help Tottenham capitalize on how much they can make of him…not so he can be held hostage and not cause a mans dreams are playing midtable for his entire career.
I just don't see what he can do more at Tottenham…sorry but fighting for 4th isn't really an achievement I would be so happy about. Mid-July no signing he has to be thinking of leaving. Sorry but another VdV last second signing shows that they are just looking for nothing else but bargains(VdV nothing short of quality though). While Scott Parker is a good player…he wouldn't make it in over Sandro and wouldn't be the difference between 5th and 4th. Great addition but nothing would convince me to stay because he couldn't hold his team up in the PL and I won't get started of Adam(next David Bentley) or Neville…and if Tottenham are not able to attract quality better than this…Modric out! He has done what he needed to there gave them CL and while they had a chance to make it this year again they sat at winter transfer and watched Liverpool and Chelsea improve while they sat on there @$$. 2 win in the final 14 games…? Enough said…that shows where there at as a club and its not anywhere near top consistently.
Oh and when your coach says it would be a "Miracle" to make top 4…I will tell that coach why in the world would i want to stay? Whether its true or not! when a player can play for better clubs why would he then want to stick it here?
most professional athletes work their whole lives to be the best they can, we see it every day and in every sport. even in our personal careers we try to achieve the best we can for ourselves…so to Denis Svircic…i disagree with you. Luka has to try to achieve the best he possibly can, he may only have 5 – 7 years left in his career and then he will surely not be at the same level. per ziva's comment about Luka not being worth the money…you're woth what people will pay…i have been amazed at what some baseball players get paid…its just like the housing market…if people pay the high price it becomes what the market commands!
oh and he does look like Messi in that pic
I don't think he would ride the bench at Chelsea but I don't have a problem with him staying at Spurs IF they can get some help upfront. If they haven't made a transfer for a decent forward by 8/20-25ish I say he should bolt as there won't be much hope to finish better than 5th again.
Anyone hearing anything on Stipe? I know he is returning to Spartak but will I want info on where they will transfer him to. We need him to get back in playing shape as Runje is terrible
Time to go..along with corluka and kranjcar! Screw harry and totenham!
time for him to go….He is not worth the money that is being thrown around, but then again many players in the EPL are not worth the money that is paid in transfers.
16 votes for Modric to suit up for Hajduk 🙂
Modric should stay for one more year. "You dont know what you have until its gone." Modric has it good at Tottenham. Could it be better? Yes. However, it could be a lot worse. I dont want to see Modric riding the bench at Chelsea. I vote: STAY
Hes leaving.
http://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/i4mdr/its_scary_how_much_they_look_alike/