In one of the most anticipated Champions League Round of 16 draws in recent years, Luka Modrić and Real Madrid will take on Wayne Rooney and Manchester United Wednesday (2:45 PM ET) from Estadio Santiago Bernabeu in Madrid. It is almost certain that manager Jose Mourinho will start German midfielder Mesut Ozil for the big game since he was rested Saturday versus Sevilla.
But that leaves either Kaka or Modrić to start on the bench.
In a season where neither Real Madrid nor Luka Modrić have shined, a new test will be written for both over the next two Champions League matches. Real Madrid are dead in the water in La Liga, sitting 16 points behind leaders Barcelona while Modrić has already been labeled ‘Bust of the Year’ in Spain. However, both parties can turn it around with solid performances against Manchester United as the world watches.
With rumblings out of Madrid that Modrić’s status is anything but safe with the club going into the summer break, the Croatian maestro will find no better situation than to showcase his skills to the world versus mighty Manchester United.
@anon, i said above “loyalty” i think is acceptable within certain bounds, provided it is not blatantly offensive and humiliating to other groups.
On the second point, ie:
_Why does abuse based on Nationality or Ideology go unnoticed, but abuse based on RACE is a global scandal?_
Not sure about this abuse based on nationality.. do u mean the way people make fun of or “tease” other nationalities in jest ? Yeah i guess race is a bit of a touchy area compared to that for sure – that being said i am the first to make a joke about jews all being accountants etc.. lol
ideology is different to race because ideologically is not intrinsically imbued – ie – it is within one’s volition so philosophically there’s a difference between abuse based on inherent characteristics and chosen traits. It’s silly to abuse someone for someone they didn’t choose if u kwim ?
That all being said i think i get where u are coming from.. it’s funny i watched an interview with Geert Wilders on tv last night because he is coming to Aus shortly and even tho he’s known as an extremist if u listen to him what he says is not nonsense so there is a discussion that needs to be had for sure about immigration etc, i acknowledge that
Who cares what religion Srna and Halilovic are? Mestizos are catholic, are you more loyal to them?
Nationality is what people think they are (hence a black brazilian can be “Croatian”), RACE is what people really are.
@Chupe
Sammir is not the Croatia they fought for either.
So we have a team of Brazillians and an Albino now? One muslim in Crna and we also want Halilovic a muslim. What is wrong with you people?
@Anonymous
So when are you coming to Vancouver? I still wanna show you a good time…
@Iggy, you did not answer my question at all, so I’ll ask it again:
Why is loyalty based on Nationality or Ideology A-okay, but loyalty based on RACE is worst thing in the world?
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Here’s more:
Why does abuse based on Nationality or Ideology go unnoticed, but abuse based on RACE is a global scandal?
If ALL and ONLY black countries were being FORCED to “assimilate” with a never ending flood of non-black immigrants (aka an ongoing program of black GENOCIDE), ya think the average black person would be a bit less tolerant of other RACES in their own countries???
@Poglavdick, you didn’t answer my question, so I’ll ask it again:
Who is the enemy of your enemy in your comment at 5:10pm on Feb 12?
Can’t answer it can you stupid? Your only recourse is to “wish” sadistic things on people who constantly expose your stupidity.
@Anonymous
Your enemies would definitely be my friends!
Alen Halilovic who has already been compared to Luka Modric, even he is much better !!
@anonymous……i am no fan of our savez, especially with Puppet Suker as president. But, they need to take every measure to ensure nothing bad happens in that stadium. If people don’t want to deal with extra security measures and extra security, then don’t attend.
This thread has my vote for the weirdest, most f’d up mess so far this year. What the hell is going on?
So is Zenit St Petersburg just being “loyal” to whites or are they racist, do you think ? ie making monkey noises and throwing banana skins on the pitch as they have said they will do against Liverpool since they have black players.
There’s a difference between loyalty to your group and being mindlessly offensive to other groups, my furry little friend. Everyone has a bit of ethnocentricity built in, a fact long acknowledged by anthropologists and not really a bad thing..
But it can certainly go too far.
@Croatia vs antwerp,
LOL! yea okay, nice try. If that were the case, I would not have been called a “raaaycist” over and over again by YOU anti-whites (yes I mean YOU, I remember you’re anti-white comments). The bottom line is YOU can’t answer the question as it exposes your “anti-racist” stupidity. Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.
It looks as though Dorner is still on the loose.He is now firing away on his computer keyboard.I think he is miffed at being wrongfully fired from the LAPD or something. 🙂
“This question has yet to be answered after having been asked over 20 times on this site. Can you hear the silence???”
I guess you don’t get the hint: No One Cares.
Sammir looks like Dorner, Lol
If we go up like 3 goals, we should put Sammir and Eduardo on the pitch for the last 3 minutes. This way to further incite the already pissed off Serbs. They will start with racist behavior and get fined and docked points.
“Sammir on the team would goad the Serbs into “racist” behavior.”
What’s a “racist”?
Is it okay for the Serbs to engage in Nationalist behavior?
Why is loyalty based on Nationality or Ideology A-okay, but loyalty based on RACE is the worst thing in the world?
This question has yet to be answered after having been asked over 20 times on this site. Can you hear the silence???
@Poglavdick, maybe Croatia won’t even have to play another game to qualify for the WC; just keep cheating to get the opposing teams expelled and go to the WC on the cheap.
“The enemy of my enemy is my friend”
And who’s that? who’s the enemy of your enemy?
Ziva Istina: “Conduct full cavity body searches”
Why, are you going to the game?
Or, are you a security guard at Maksimir?
It doesn’t suprise me how many of you are willing to give up your freedom and dignity for “safety”. You prefer safe slavery to dangerous freedom. This explains why you dare not speak against our established religion of Political Correctness.
Sammir on the team would goad the Serbs into racist behavior. I know some of you would rather lose than field a black player but if we’re up say 3 goals, I’d put him in for the last 3 minutes and get the Serbs fucked over. I’m sure some of our own fans would be chanting shit at him but hopefully we could just blame it on the Serbs. Anything to fuck over the Serbs!
“The enemy of my enemy is my friend”
Yep he lit the house he is in on fire. and now is shooting at cops through the smoke.
He also killed another cop earlier today.
@Anon-What?he lit himself on fire?I hope he didnt use a flare,we will really get fined if he did!I think to be safe the Savez should ensure that Sammir is not on the team.He is too much trouble. 🙂
Yeah FYI Chris Dorner is the guy trying to take down all the cops in Southern California.
…and now he just lit himself on fire.
@Chupe-Ok,thanks.I guess what we have to remember is that the game is part of Soccer,the other stuff is other stuff.Lets not welcome the visiting team at the airport with flowers,but play the game hard and win.Then they can catch a bus to wherever the hell they came from.
I was also saying Josipovic Milanovic and Jovanovic can have Ceca sing our Ljepa Nasa thats how kommie this croatian government is they kiss serb ass
@Anon-Being in Aus. I didnt initially get the Dorner thing,but saw the news and the penny dropped.You brought a wry little smile to my face.
@capitals 55-The UEFA thing actually made me chuckle a little,but the scary thing is that I could see it happening!
I was talking about how fucked up croatia is thats all when i see whats going on in croatia we seem to pull our pants down to serbs since the war it make me sick this croatia with mafia and corruption
@anon: now thats some good thinking, although Uefa might mistaken Dorner for Sammir, than we’ll really be suspended.
@Chupe-I dont quite understand your last comment.Can you clarify?
Just get Christopher Dorner to stand outside of the stadium, Tell him all the Serbs are cops.
they can have ceca sing our national anthem just keep pulling the pants down to serbs fucking SDP KOMMIE SCUM VUKOVAR JE VUKOVAR! Diaspora stay away from croatia i feel bad for all who lost lives 20 years ago
@Ziva-I doubt that you care too much for my opinion,either good or bad.I would say that what you mention about Platini and the Savez is the “ziva istina”in its truest form,no jerk stuff,just fact.Capitals 55 refers to Platini as” a little French Fuck”This does sum him up in my eyes also.But at the end of the day,its his job to ensure that our Savez does not deal with things in a minimalist and post reactive manner as they tend to to a big degree.Our meathead element is difficult to deal with,but the Savez has to take the front foot and do what is needed.This even goes beyond having lots of security on the day,which will certainly happen.”Dont give Platini a reason,its as simple as that”
I was at the 1999 game and there was no trouble the war was only 4 years removed surprised and they knocked us out most depressing day since the war to me, there will be no problem this time around either the Communist Yugo government run croatia, the ones who kiss serbs asses, most of our youth listen to cajke anyway they dont care, i can only see war vets causing propblem beacuse this is not the croatia they faught for.
lol @ ziva.. full cavity searches on fans ? that might be going a bit far (^__^)
My bad just called my friend you guys are right sorry march 31 dalyight savings starts in Croatia so the game will be on at 1 pm Eastern time
The Srbija game no time is mentioned as of yet that just says 6 pm for now i believe because they havent given a time yet
youre right Ziva, it is listed as 6pm. Daylight savings time in the U.S. gets earlier every year it seems like. I think europe jumps there hour later in the month if im not mistaken. I looked at ESPN last and they had it at 1pm ET, That was exactly my thinking for the early start as well, for some security reasons.
I thought the game was scheduled for 6pm local time in Cro.
Early?? Yes. But, so was the 1999 match. You have to play it earlier because if you start it later it gives the idiot element all day to drink.
Both ESPN and UEFA sites have the game starting at 7pm Zagreb time, which is early for a home qualifier. Does anyone know if that time has been confirmed?
I THINK THERE WILL BE TROUBLE AT THE MATCH. HOWEVER, I KNOW FOR FACT THAT THERE WILL BE A
CHORUS OF PUSKA PUCE!!!!!
I don’t disagree that Platini will be looking for an excuse to fine us or even worse, suspend us. Which means its up to the savez to do everything in their power to make sure the idiotic element of our fans base does nothing that could hurt us with UEFA or FIFA.
Any disturbance outside the stadium has nothing to do with the savez. The savez can only control what takes place inside Maksimir. That is why the savez needs to error on the safe side and do everything that it can not to allow the idiotic element into the stadium. Conduct full cavity body searches, put up a 50 meter high plastic glass behind each goal so fans dont throw anything on the pitch. If that means lowering capacity to 25K or even lower, then so be it.
If someone warns you numberous times (like Platini is doing) and sranje still takes place, well then you deserve the punishment. Don’t give Platini a reason to do anything. It’s as simple as that.
Get well Josip Kuze former Dinamo Caoch he has leukemija Drzi se legendo!
We all know that little French fuck Platini will be in Zagreb next month looking to fine the shit out of us for any possible thing he can. I cant guarantee a score, but I can guarantee you two things:
1) There will be serbs that make it into and around Maksimir that day, leading to small pockets of violence.
2) There is a gonna be shit load of flares thrown on the field at some point that day, my guess being during the anthems.
There will be no point deductions or ejections from the competition but there will be a heavy load of fines. One prediction ill also make is that our game against Scotland that is scheduled to played in Split, will have to be played behind closed doors with no fans. So there goes Split’s chance of hosting a big qualifier against a decent team any time soon.
Anonymous,
Saan.tv is a good channel. Most of the time the streaming is very good. However, over a year ago when I subscribed, you needed an address in Croatia to subscriber.
That Serb that grabbed Jarni’s balls wanted to know what it felt like to have a set
Oh i remember everything about those games. Especially Suker’s header that was CLEARLY OVER THE LINE but was ruled not to have crossed, the game ending in 2-2 and us missing out. Man, was i heartbroken that day !
It was Zoran Mirkovic that had a thing for Jarnis nuts.
sorry,forgot to sign on again after running a cleaner program on my laptop.Just commented to jm and Iggy!
@jm-Thats a interesting way of looking at it with Macedonia at 150-1.I cant see it happening,but you just never know do you.
@Iggy-I had forgotten about Jarni getting squirrel gripped that time.That was quite bizarre!
One thing that I have been always glad about with our NT since the “Divorce” is that we seemed to largley abandon the old Yugo team mentality of being hot and cold and being ill disciplined at times.The Serbs still play a bit this way.We have tended to be more consistent with our performances.Someone just needs to tell Lovren that he is on the Croatian NT,and not the Yugo or Serb one.
Hopefully any stupidity in the Cro-Serb games come from them.. remember that Serb grabbing Jarni’s nuts in the ’99 qualifier and getting a red card ? lol..
This is funny i know its old but back in 2007 croatia israel 1-0 Wolf gang stark did the gaem and look at what our comentators said about him at 1:05:25 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7d5VZealRw
Its been done before Croatia did it afew times
This is kinda crazy.
Mou making Luka and Arbeloa get yellow cards. This suspends them for their next match in the Primera and clears them of yellow cards for their next matches.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quP6WLBixSw
Luka Lukica ajde ti lipo na Klupicu!
I expect the savez, in partnership with the MUP, to be very pro-active for this game. I’ve heard up to 3,000 secuirty personal (cops, private security) for the Serb game.
anyone got any insight on what channel the Cro-Serbia game will be shown on?
Not streaming online I dont want to deal with buffering and shit…I have a bar and I’d like to order whatever channel I need. Preferably with english commentary.
So here’s the life hedge for anyone going to Vegas. Macedonia sits number 4 in our group. They are 150 to 1 to qualify for the world cup. Go place 100 on them to qualify. If Croatia and Serbia get each other disqualified, a potential 15k can sooth the pain
Problem is the fans hid the flares in their anal cavaties. Hard to get up and in there to pull these things out. Good chance we get banned. However, if we do so be it. At least Sammir will not be seen on a world stage as a Croat.
http://espn.go.com/olympics/basketball/story/_/id/8935495/serbian-cup-basketball-final-stopped-fan-violence
the big tail risk to our wc qualifying chances is getting banned by fifa with the main chance for that the two games against serbia. any chance croatia is pro-active in trying to prevent this? (i.e carefully checking fans when they enter the stadium, banning certain fans from attending the match, pro-actively kicking fans out, having enough security). it all seems like a potential powder keg
I’m OK with Modric not starting. It means he will play in Real’s lesser games in the league as they save players for the Champions League matches moving forward (assuming they beat Man U). I just want a healthy Modric ready to go on March 22. I have accepted him as a failure at Real Madrid this season.
Possibly, although if things don’t workout he will definitly play in the second leg.
Diego Lopez – Arbeloa, Ramos, Pepe, Coentrao – Xabi Alonso, Khedira – Di Maria, Özil, Cristiano Ronaldo – Benzema.
Word is Modric might not even be on the substitute bench.
I’m a united fan, but fuck i hpe Luka does well if he does get a chance!